Gee whiz. Just don't be such a criminally insane adjudicated mental defective in a court of law with all that Democrat gun control shit that somehow gets enforced as law.
You are obviously too stupid to grasp the difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome.
Wrong. Asians are not shafted by AA. In fact as it pertains to their population, they are overrepresented. Understand this, schools take into account multiple factors in admitting students and test scores are just one. Test scores are so inconsequential that now over 900 colleges don't consider test scores or have made testing optional. Your racist argument always assumes that blacks aren't qualidied, which is wrong. What has been shown over the past few years is rampant cheating by bpth Asians and whites.Whites have done what you claim here since the beginning of this country. Whites drop out of college too. Everything you say here is bullshit. When will whites like you drop the delusion? AA ends when whites stop practicing racism. White racial preference is an American tradition and it is so routine that whites like you either don't know that's what is happening or you know it and want to continue getting preferential treatment.No, what people like you have done is convince people that minorities are getting ahead based upon the color of their skin or their gender, NOT their accomplishments or capabilities. There are facts to base that belief on, just look at the washout rates for minority students admitted to colleges under affirmative action programs. Scarce college slots are wasted on people who have no real chance of success. Promotions and jobs are the same way. Every woman or minority who is promoted is viewed by the other candidates as well as subordinates as getting promoted in spite of their performance not because of it. The bad ones get carried, the good ones have to work ten times as hard to disprove erroneous beliefs about their lack of competency. AA MIGHT have had a place when it was enacted, although I disagree, but when does it end? It existed my entire working life, will my great grandchildren be denied equal access to schools and jobs as well? You can’t use discrimination by further discrimination.In the past? Things are better; we are slowly convincing people that a black, a woman, a Latino, a Native American, can do an equally good job as the average white guy. But there are still plenty of people who don't see it and would still not give those people a chance to succeed or fail.Racism involves believing other groups are inferior to yours. It's not a racist policy to break centuries of bigotry by encouraging minorities get a chance.> People fighting bigotry with programs that encourage minority hiring are not racist; they are trying to combat it, shortbus.
OldLady, you just said that hiring based upon race is not racist. Literally.
You don't fight racism by instituting racist policies.
Instead of an insult you deserve, I'll give you a compliment... Cute avatar.
Yes...it is. It is called racism no matter what the intent....and discriminating against people because people in the past with their same skin color did bad things is called racism....
White and asian kids are not given an advantage getting into school. Black kids are. You think that is ok despite not taking anything else into account? A rich black kid from Beverly Hills with lesser qualifications could still benefit from AA, while a poor white kids from Arkansas could be left out. In what world is that the “right” thing to do?
Rich black kids suffer from systemic racial discrimination and poor white kids don't. There is such a thing as unqualified whites and many of them are accepted on legacy. Ask G.W. Bush.
my guess is youre lying again,,
I know. My grandmother was a telephone operator in the bad old days. They listened in the old boys' phone calls, so the old boys went golfing when they had to do business.
In my entire life I never viewed benefits of civilization and progress as "white privilege". I doubt you did either until you were indoctrinated. Not buying.
...You're a Canadian.....?
Wrong. Asians are not shafted by AA. In fact as it pertains to their population, they are overrepresented. Understand this, schools take into account multiple factors in admitting students and test scores are just one. Test scores are so inconsequential that now over 900 colleges don't consider test scores or have made testing optional. Your racist argument always assumes that blacks aren't qualidied, which is wrong. What has been shown over the past few years is rampant cheating by bpth Asians and whites.Whites have done what you claim here since the beginning of this country. Whites drop out of college too. Everything you say here is bullshit. When will whites like you drop the delusion? AA ends when whites stop practicing racism. White racial preference is an American tradition and it is so routine that whites like you either don't know that's what is happening or you know it and want to continue getting preferential treatment.No, what people like you have done is convince people that minorities are getting ahead based upon the color of their skin or their gender, NOT their accomplishments or capabilities. There are facts to base that belief on, just look at the washout rates for minority students admitted to colleges under affirmative action programs. Scarce college slots are wasted on people who have no real chance of success. Promotions and jobs are the same way. Every woman or minority who is promoted is viewed by the other candidates as well as subordinates as getting promoted in spite of their performance not because of it. The bad ones get carried, the good ones have to work ten times as hard to disprove erroneous beliefs about their lack of competency. AA MIGHT have had a place when it was enacted, although I disagree, but when does it end? It existed my entire working life, will my great grandchildren be denied equal access to schools and jobs as well? You can’t use discrimination by further discrimination.In the past? Things are better; we are slowly convincing people that a black, a woman, a Latino, a Native American, can do an equally good job as the average white guy. But there are still plenty of people who don't see it and would still not give those people a chance to succeed or fail.Racism involves believing other groups are inferior to yours. It's not a racist policy to break centuries of bigotry by encouraging minorities get a chance.> People fighting bigotry with programs that encourage minority hiring are not racist; they are trying to combat it, shortbus.
OldLady, you just said that hiring based upon race is not racist. Literally.
You don't fight racism by instituting racist policies.
Instead of an insult you deserve, I'll give you a compliment... Cute avatar.
Yes...it is. It is called racism no matter what the intent....and discriminating against people because people in the past with their same skin color did bad things is called racism....
White and asian kids are not given an advantage getting into school. Black kids are. You think that is ok despite not taking anything else into account? A rich black kid from Beverly Hills with lesser qualifications could still benefit from AA, while a poor white kids from Arkansas could be left out. In what world is that the “right” thing to do?
Rich black kids suffer from systemic racial discrimination and poor white kids don't. There is such a thing as unqualified whites and many of them are accepted on legacy. Ask G.W. Bush.
Test scores are so inconsequential that now over 900 colleges don't consider test scores or have made testing optional.
Idiot.....
They did this to discriminate against Asians and to a lesser extent against whites.......blacks, because they are trapped in democrat party controlled schools....do horrible on standard tests...so the left wingers, instead of fixing democrat party controlled schools, simply do their best to throw out using test scores...you idiot.
Wrong. Asians are not shafted by AA. In fact as it pertains to their population, they are overrepresented. Understand this, schools take into account multiple factors in admitting students and test scores are just one. Test scores are so inconsequential that now over 900 colleges don't consider test scores or have made testing optional. Your racist argument always assumes that blacks aren't qualidied, which is wrong. What has been shown over the past few years is rampant cheating by bpth Asians and whites.Whites have done what you claim here since the beginning of this country. Whites drop out of college too. Everything you say here is bullshit. When will whites like you drop the delusion? AA ends when whites stop practicing racism. White racial preference is an American tradition and it is so routine that whites like you either don't know that's what is happening or you know it and want to continue getting preferential treatment.No, what people like you have done is convince people that minorities are getting ahead based upon the color of their skin or their gender, NOT their accomplishments or capabilities. There are facts to base that belief on, just look at the washout rates for minority students admitted to colleges under affirmative action programs. Scarce college slots are wasted on people who have no real chance of success. Promotions and jobs are the same way. Every woman or minority who is promoted is viewed by the other candidates as well as subordinates as getting promoted in spite of their performance not because of it. The bad ones get carried, the good ones have to work ten times as hard to disprove erroneous beliefs about their lack of competency. AA MIGHT have had a place when it was enacted, although I disagree, but when does it end? It existed my entire working life, will my great grandchildren be denied equal access to schools and jobs as well? You can’t use discrimination by further discrimination.In the past? Things are better; we are slowly convincing people that a black, a woman, a Latino, a Native American, can do an equally good job as the average white guy. But there are still plenty of people who don't see it and would still not give those people a chance to succeed or fail.Racism involves believing other groups are inferior to yours. It's not a racist policy to break centuries of bigotry by encouraging minorities get a chance.> People fighting bigotry with programs that encourage minority hiring are not racist; they are trying to combat it, shortbus.
OldLady, you just said that hiring based upon race is not racist. Literally.
You don't fight racism by instituting racist policies.
Instead of an insult you deserve, I'll give you a compliment... Cute avatar.
Yes...it is. It is called racism no matter what the intent....and discriminating against people because people in the past with their same skin color did bad things is called racism....
White and asian kids are not given an advantage getting into school. Black kids are. You think that is ok despite not taking anything else into account? A rich black kid from Beverly Hills with lesser qualifications could still benefit from AA, while a poor white kids from Arkansas could be left out. In what world is that the “right” thing to do?
Rich black kids suffer from systemic racial discrimination and poor white kids don't. There is such a thing as unqualified whites and many of them are accepted on legacy. Ask G.W. Bush.
Test scores are so inconsequential that now over 900 colleges don't consider test scores or have made testing optional.
Idiot.....
They did this to discriminate against Asians and to a lesser extent against whites.......blacks, because they are trapped in democrat party controlled schools....do horrible on standard tests...so the left wingers, instead of fixing democrat party controlled schools, simply do their best to throw out using test scores...you idiot.
They threw out test scores because of rampant cheating. An entire industry had grown up around coaching applicants for the SATS, or cheating on the SATS, that the scores themselves were meaningless and in no ways indicative of a candidate’s abilities or intellect.
American families current spend more money on their children’s education than any parents in the first world. Such a system gives much advantage to the children of the rich.
your quoting 1980's statistics. it's now 2021 buddy.Whites have done what you claim here since the beginning of this country. Whites drop out of college too. Everything you say here is bullshit. When will whites like you drop the delusion? AA ends when whites stop practicing racism. White racial preference is an American tradition and it is so routine that whites like you either don't know that's what is happening or you know it and want to continue getting preferential treatment.No, what people like you have done is convince people that minorities are getting ahead based upon the color of their skin or their gender, NOT their accomplishments or capabilities. There are facts to base that belief on, just look at the washout rates for minority students admitted to colleges under affirmative action programs. Scarce college slots are wasted on people who have no real chance of success. Promotions and jobs are the same way. Every woman or minority who is promoted is viewed by the other candidates as well as subordinates as getting promoted in spite of their performance not because of it. The bad ones get carried, the good ones have to work ten times as hard to disprove erroneous beliefs about their lack of competency. AA MIGHT have had a place when it was enacted, although I disagree, but when does it end? It existed my entire working life, will my great grandchildren be denied equal access to schools and jobs as well? You can’t use discrimination by further discrimination.In the past? Things are better; we are slowly convincing people that a black, a woman, a Latino, a Native American, can do an equally good job as the average white guy. But there are still plenty of people who don't see it and would still not give those people a chance to succeed or fail.Racism involves believing other groups are inferior to yours. It's not a racist policy to break centuries of bigotry by encouraging minorities get a chance.> People fighting bigotry with programs that encourage minority hiring are not racist; they are trying to combat it, shortbus.
OldLady, you just said that hiring based upon race is not racist. Literally.
You don't fight racism by instituting racist policies.
Instead of an insult you deserve, I'll give you a compliment... Cute avatar.
Yes...it is. It is called racism no matter what the intent....and discriminating against people because people in the past with their same skin color did bad things is called racism....
White and asian kids are not given an advantage getting into school. Black kids are. You think that is ok despite not taking anything else into account? A rich black kid from Beverly Hills with lesser qualifications could still benefit from AA, while a poor white kids from Arkansas could be left out. In what world is that the “right” thing to do?
30% of Ivy League College admissions go to “legacy students” - the children of the rich white people who graduated from Harvard, Princeton and Yale. This is the very definition of “affirmative action” for rich white kids.
In terms of “athletic scholarships”, there are, on average, 12 scholarship track athletic programs at suburban middle class high schools versus 9 at inner city schools, so rich white kifs have the advantage there as well. There are few hockey, swimming, fencing or rowing programs in inner city schools. This makes the competition for basketball, track and field, baseball and football scholarships among minority students, that much tougher.
You had a lengthy post about the Bell Curve and the lower IQ and test scores to justify keeping minorities out of Ivy League schools.
The authors of the Bell Curve theorized that the USA would become stratified by IQ with the smartest people having the highest income, so education should go to the smartest, and black IQ’s are lower than whites and Asians so AA is wasted on blacks.
But the ignored the stats which showed that IQ has limited effects on income and success. That basically 1 point higher of IQ above the average of 100, will only result in an average 1% income increase. While rich people with Average IQ’s have an income 200% higher than the American average.
The Brookings Institute points out that the every addional year of education which the average individual receives increases the annual income by $700 per year (as at the year the study was first published)
This means 2 years of ECE pre-school, would increase average IQ of particants by 3%, and their average annual earning, making the investment in the 2 extra years of ECS well worth the investment.
Extrapolating the incone data from the bell curve research, provides ample proof that the investment and increased educational opportunities provided by AA for CB inner city minorities have been well worth the investment.
Between the start of Johnson’s War on Poverty which pushed access for minorities to higher education, black poverty was cut by 2/3 and black unemployment was substantially reduced as well.
Republicans stoked white fear and grievance around affirmative action and its impact on white opportunities. Republicans claimed it was no longer needed that and that the playing field was now leveled. Such claims were completely false but they have been an effective wedge issue for Republicans.
No. What you posted was nonsense.
Utter nonsense.
