Bakers fined for not working homosexual "wedding" continue fighting for their freedoms

[bodecea]

The same right to go to a business and not discriminated against due to sexual orientation.

So, choice is a civil right I think you said earlier.....

I did? Was that when I was looking for those slaves you claim I have?

We freed your slaves....

BTW..."we"? What did YOU do to free the slaves?

Went to war and Killed people like you....

Oh really? We're you infantry, cavalry, or artillery? What state and regiment?

 

[owebo]

So, you prefer to force people to make things for people....isn't that fascist?

They don't have to...and they don't have to have an Oregon business license anymore either.

Why?

You don't think someone should follow the business laws they agree to when they get a license?

So, you're saying the state tells people what they will make?

The state requires a business to follow business law if they get a license. You don't thing they should have to?

Yes, you're telling us the state tells people what they will make....

 

[owebo]

So, choice is a civil right I think you said earlier.....

I did? Was that when I was looking for those slaves you claim I have?

We freed your slaves....

BTW..."we"? What did YOU do to free the slaves?

Went to war and Killed people like you....

Oh really? We're you infantry, cavalry, or artillery? What state and regiment?

Republican...

 

[bodecea]

They don't have to...and they don't have to have an Oregon business license anymore either.

Why?

You don't think someone should follow the business laws they agree to when they get a license?

So, you're saying the state tells people what they will make?

The state requires a business to follow business law if they get a license. You don't thing they should have to?

Yes, you're telling us the state tells people what they will make....

Never said that...that's all on you. So, I'm a Civil War buff...you have my interest that you've lived this long...what State and regiment were you in? Infantry? Artillery? Cavalry?

 

[bodecea]

I did? Was that when I was looking for those slaves you claim I have?

We freed your slaves....

BTW..."we"? What did YOU do to free the slaves?

Went to war and Killed people like you....

Oh really? We're you infantry, cavalry, or artillery? What state and regiment?

Republican...

Oh...a do-nothing but hide under your bed kind of guy.

 

[owebo]

Why?

You don't think someone should follow the business laws they agree to when they get a license?

So, you're saying the state tells people what they will make?

The state requires a business to follow business law if they get a license. You don't thing they should have to?

Yes, you're telling us the state tells people what they will make....

Never said that...that's all on you. So, I'm a Civil War buff...you have my interest that you've lived this long...what State and regiment were you in? Infantry? Artillery? Cavalry?

Republican....

 

[owebo]

We freed your slaves....

BTW..."we"? What did YOU do to free the slaves?

Went to war and Killed people like you....

Oh really? We're you infantry, cavalry, or artillery? What state and regiment?

Republican...

Oh...a do-nothing but hide under your bed kind of guy.

Oh...a do nothing hide under your white sheet kinda guy....

 

[bodecea]

You don't think someone should follow the business laws they agree to when they get a license?

So, you're saying the state tells people what they will make?

The state requires a business to follow business law if they get a license. You don't thing they should have to?

Yes, you're telling us the state tells people what they will make....

Never said that...that's all on you. So, I'm a Civil War buff...you have my interest that you've lived this long...what State and regiment were you in? Infantry? Artillery? Cavalry?

Republican....

Yes...we got that. Thanks for clarifying...*snicker*

 

[Silhouette]

You don't think someone should follow the business laws they agree to when they get a license?

You realize you can't force someone to choose between the 1st Amendment and some Johnny-come-lately PA laws right? You can't say "renounce your faith or no business license for you!" And the 1st doesn't read "freedom of church". It's freedom of INDIVIDUALS to exercise their faith EVERY DAY, EVERYWHERE they find themselves.

Good luck asking Congress to amend the 1st Amendment. We all know where this is heading..

 

[RodISHI]

Making someone do work they do not want to do.....you call that slavery.....which the democrats know quite well....they owned blacks as slaves for a very long time...now they want to own everyone as slaves....even bakers....

Interesting take...what if your boss tells you to do something you don't like? Slavery? Just like black slavery?

The point of owning your own business is that you are the boss and you decide what shall be done in your services not the general public regardless of their personal preferences, dysfunctions sexual or otherwise.

 

[Dragonlady]

Wallace wanted to discriminate illegally because of his beliefs. Like you and the pitiful bakers.

Nope....wallace was a democrat and he violated the Constitutional Rights of blacks......just like you guys are for these bakers....what is it with you guys and forcing people to work for you when they don't want too........is it a mental illness, or just a habit.....?

The bakers violated the constitutional rights of the gay couple. Just like George Wallace tried with black people. I pity the bakers.

No...they didn't violate anyone's Constitutional rights...you don't have a right to a wedding cake. Wallace, a democrat, used the power of government to deny Constitutional rights to black people........you support violating Constitutional Rights the same way he did.....

They did violate the couple's rights. One day if a Muslim says you can't buy some kabobs because you're an infidel, you can sue them too.

Nope....you can lie about the Constitution all you want...you can force people at gun point to be slaves....but the First Amendment protects the religious freedom of these bakers even if they are running a business......a Right isn't stopped at a property line...

They can't claim religious freedom if the only class of "sinners" they refuse service to are gays. For example, if they bake cakes for second marriages, these are classed in the Bible as "adultery", a stoning offence according to scripture, as this is one of the 10 Commandments. If your are refusing service to gays on religious grounds, you can't pick and choose your sins, you have to discriminate against all such similar sins. The Bible strictly prohibits divorce and remarriage, so this is not some perverse whim of mine.

There are a lot of things in the Bible which civilized people have stopped doing, including but not limited to: stoning adulterers; keeping slaves; and marrying your brother's widow, but keep Jesus' commandment of "Love one another as I have loved you", apparently is one of them.

 

[bodecea]

Making someone do work they do not want to do.....you call that slavery.....which the democrats know quite well....they owned blacks as slaves for a very long time...now they want to own everyone as slaves....even bakers....

Interesting take...what if your boss tells you to do something you don't like? Slavery? Just like black slavery?

The point of owning your own business is that you are the boss and you decide what shall be done in your services not the general public regardless of their personal preferences, dysfunctions sexual or otherwise.

So...you don't believe businesses should be licensed

 

[RodISHI]

They could refuse that. It's a very different request than the one in this case. You people are horribly uninformed.

Is it?

You don't think the Christian couple find the gay wedding as distasteful as the other bakery finds Hitler?

You can refuse to put language on a cake. That's protected by the first amendment. But you can't refuse to sell them your product just because you hate folks like them.

Why not?

Notice how that moron says they hate gays........as Christians they don't hate people.......they just can't participate in a gay wedding....

"I don't hate you, I just think you're a shameless sinner who's going to burn in hell for all eternity and don't deserve any rights."

Their religion and the freedoms in our constitution allows them to believe that.

 

[owebo]

Nope....wallace was a democrat and he violated the Constitutional Rights of blacks......just like you guys are for these bakers....what is it with you guys and forcing people to work for you when they don't want too........is it a mental illness, or just a habit.....?

The bakers violated the constitutional rights of the gay couple. Just like George Wallace tried with black people. I pity the bakers.

No...they didn't violate anyone's Constitutional rights...you don't have a right to a wedding cake. Wallace, a democrat, used the power of government to deny Constitutional rights to black people........you support violating Constitutional Rights the same way he did.....

They did violate the couple's rights. One day if a Muslim says you can't buy some kabobs because you're an infidel, you can sue them too.

Nope....you can lie about the Constitution all you want...you can force people at gun point to be slaves....but the First Amendment protects the religious freedom of these bakers even if they are running a business......a Right isn't stopped at a property line...

They can't claim religious freedom if the only class of "sinners" they refuse service to are gays. For example, if they bake cakes for second marriages, these are classed in the Bible as "adultery", a stoning offence according to scripture, as this is one of the 10 Commandments. If your are refusing service to gays on religious grounds, you can't pick and choose your sins, you have to discriminate against all such similar sins. The Bible strictly prohibits divorce and remarriage, so this is not some perverse whim of mine.

There are a lot of things in the Bible which civilized people have stopped doing, including but not limited to: stoning adulterers; keeping slaves; and marrying your brother's widow, but keep Jesus' commandment of "Love one another as I have loved you", apparently is one of them.

So, you think a better way is to force people to believe the way you want them to?

 

[owebo]

Making someone do work they do not want to do.....you call that slavery.....which the democrats know quite well....they owned blacks as slaves for a very long time...now they want to own everyone as slaves....even bakers....

Interesting take...what if your boss tells you to do something you don't like? Slavery? Just like black slavery?

The point of owning your own business is that you are the boss and you decide what shall be done in your services not the general public regardless of their personal preferences, dysfunctions sexual or otherwise.

So...you don't believe businesses should be licensed

So, when I get a license, that state will tell me what I can make so I know what kind of business I can run?

 

[RodISHI]

Nope....wallace was a democrat and he violated the Constitutional Rights of blacks......just like you guys are for these bakers....what is it with you guys and forcing people to work for you when they don't want too........is it a mental illness, or just a habit.....?

The bakers violated the constitutional rights of the gay couple. Just like George Wallace tried with black people. I pity the bakers.

No...they didn't violate anyone's Constitutional rights...you don't have a right to a wedding cake. Wallace, a democrat, used the power of government to deny Constitutional rights to black people........you support violating Constitutional Rights the same way he did.....

They did violate the couple's rights. One day if a Muslim says you can't buy some kabobs because you're an infidel, you can sue them too.

Nope....you can lie about the Constitution all you want...you can force people at gun point to be slaves....but the First Amendment protects the religious freedom of these bakers even if they are running a business......a Right isn't stopped at a property line...

They can't claim religious freedom if the only class of "sinners" they refuse service to are gays. For example, if they bake cakes for second marriages, these are classed in the Bible as "adultery", a stoning offence according to scripture, as this is one of the 10 Commandments. If your are refusing service to gays on religious grounds, you can't pick and choose your sins, you have to discriminate against all such similar sins. The Bible strictly prohibits divorce and remarriage, so this is not some perverse whim of mine.

There are a lot of things in the Bible which civilized people have stopped doing, including but not limited to: stoning adulterers; keeping slaves; and marrying your brother's widow, but keep Jesus' commandment of "Love one another as I have loved you", apparently is one of them.

If you are going to try to preach you need to do some more studying and really you shouldn't try to preach to people that know and understand those words better than you do. The Lord allowed divorce and in fact Paul clarified that subject in his writings concerning believers divorcing nonbelievers. Civilized people don't sue people because they have personal problems that they personally cannot deal with.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Is it?

You don't think the Christian couple find the gay wedding as distasteful as the other bakery finds Hitler?

You can refuse to put language on a cake. That's protected by the first amendment. But you can't refuse to sell them your product just because you hate folks like them.

Why not?

Notice how that moron says they hate gays........as Christians they don't hate people.......they just can't participate in a gay wedding....

"I don't hate you, I just think you're a shameless sinner who's going to burn in hell for all eternity and don't deserve any rights."

Their religion and the freedoms in our constitution allows them to believe that.

But not act on it

 

[bodecea]

You don't think someone should follow the business laws they agree to when they get a license?

You realize you can't force someone to choose between the 1st Amendment and some Johnny-come-lately PA laws right? You can't say "renounce your faith or no business license for you!" And the 1st doesn't read "freedom of church". It's freedom of INDIVIDUALS to exercise their faith EVERY DAY, EVERYWHERE they find themselves.

Good luck asking Congress to amend the 1st Amendment. We all know where this is heading..

So you are against PA laws...what are you actively doing to get them repealed in your state?

 

[bodecea]

Making someone do work they do not want to do.....you call that slavery.....which the democrats know quite well....they owned blacks as slaves for a very long time...now they want to own everyone as slaves....even bakers....

Interesting take...what if your boss tells you to do something you don't like? Slavery? Just like black slavery?

The point of owning your own business is that you are the boss and you decide what shall be done in your services not the general public regardless of their personal preferences, dysfunctions sexual or otherwise.

So...you don't believe businesses should be licensed

So, when I get a license, that state will tell me what I can make so I know what kind of business I can run?

The state does not tell you what to make, but you must follow that state's business laws....if you want to make widgets, you still have to follow business law if you want t.hat license.

 

[bodecea]

The bakers violated the constitutional rights of the gay couple. Just like George Wallace tried with black people. I pity the bakers.

No...they didn't violate anyone's Constitutional rights...you don't have a right to a wedding cake. Wallace, a democrat, used the power of government to deny Constitutional rights to black people........you support violating Constitutional Rights the same way he did.....

They did violate the couple's rights. One day if a Muslim says you can't buy some kabobs because you're an infidel, you can sue them too.

Nope....you can lie about the Constitution all you want...you can force people at gun point to be slaves....but the First Amendment protects the religious freedom of these bakers even if they are running a business......a Right isn't stopped at a property line...

They can't claim religious freedom if the only class of "sinners" they refuse service to are gays. For example, if they bake cakes for second marriages, these are classed in the Bible as "adultery", a stoning offence according to scripture, as this is one of the 10 Commandments. If your are refusing service to gays on religious grounds, you can't pick and choose your sins, you have to discriminate against all such similar sins. The Bible strictly prohibits divorce and remarriage, so this is not some perverse whim of mine.

There are a lot of things in the Bible which civilized people have stopped doing, including but not limited to: stoning adulterers; keeping slaves; and marrying your brother's widow, but keep Jesus' commandment of "Love one another as I have loved you", apparently is one of them.

If you are going to try to preach you need to do some more studying and really you shouldn't try to preach to people that know and understand those words better than you do. The Lord allowed divorce and in fact Paul clarified that subject in his writings concerning believers divorcing nonbelievers. Civilized people don't sue people because they have personal problems that they personally cannot deal with.

Look at you! Divorce is biblically cool now!