You cannot prove your claim that the universe was created from nothing. And neither can anyone else. You cannot even provide an example of “nothing”. Even science doesn’t claim the universe was created out of nothing. Not any scientists which are taken seriously anyhow. So your reply failed in the first sentence...
2nd Law of thermodynamics proves the universe had a beginning all by itself and that that beginning started with matter having a beginning and being created from nothing.
Something which is beyond matter and energy, is eternal and is unchanging.
We know from science that space and time had a beginning. Specifically, red shift, cosmic background radiation, Friedmann's solutions to Einstein's field equations, quantum mechanics, the First Law of Thermodynamics, the Second Law of Thermodynamics and Inflation Theory.
Inflation Theory, the First Law of Thermodynamics and quantum mechanics tells us that it is possible for matter to have a beginning. In a closed universe the gravitational energy which is always negative exactly compensates the positive energy of matter. So the energy of a closed universe is always zero. So nothing prevents this universe from being spontaneously created. Because the net energy is always zero. The positive energy of matter is balanced by the negative energy of the gravity of that matter which is the space time curvature of that matter. There is no conservation law that prevents the formation of such a universe. In quantum mechanics if something is not forbidden by conservation laws, then it necessarily happens with some non-zero probability. So a closed universe can spontaneously appear - through the laws of quantum mechanics - out of nothing. And in fact there is an elegant mathematical description which describes this process and shows that a tiny closed universe having very high energy can spontaneously pop into existence and immediately start to expand and cool. In this description, the same laws that describe the evolution of the universe also describe the appearance of the universe which means that the laws were in place before the universe itself.
No, it's an example of actual atheist behavior, just repeating a simplistic, popular mantra or slogan hoping it to be true, or become true.No, thats an example of a conman making up stuff to soothe himself (you). Here is an actual example:^^^ an example of an atheist’s argument.
" I see no good evidence to believe any of this extraordinary, magical claims. So i don't".
And that's it.
Much as atheists congregate in their own "special interest groups" or echo-chambers, repeating such simplistic beliefs and catchphrases to themselves, much as they likely would Christian, Jewish, or Muslim ones if they simply "changed the channel" or found a different variety of echo-chambering.
(The same can be said for many if not most of what passes for "politics", informed more by popular mass media, than actual books, political theorists, philosophers, and so on).
I don’t hate atheists. Why should I?No, it's an example of actual atheist behavior, just repeating a simplistic, popular mantra or slogan hoping it to be true, or become true.No, thats an example of a conman making up stuff to soothe himself (you). Here is an actual example:^^^ an example of an atheist’s argument.
" I see no good evidence to believe any of this extraordinary, magical claims. So i don't".
And that's it.
Much as atheists congregate in their own "special interest groups" or echo-chambers, repeating such simplistic beliefs and catchphrases to themselves, much as they likely would Christian, Jewish, or Muslim ones if they simply "changed the channel" or found a different variety of echo-chambering.
(The same can be said for many if not most of what passes for "politics", informed more by popular mass media, than actual books, political theorists, philosophers, and so on).
so you hate atheist, too
are they on your list of "scum to be eliminated"?
The problem with arrogant snots like you is you actually believe YOU are the only smart person and everyone else is just a mindless idiot.
I am an atheist
I resent your fkn snot nosed arrogance about it.
so tel us, what idiotic lunacy to YOU embrace?
I believe the best way to eliminate atheism, and the childish, emotional sentiments, traditions, or simplistic folk slogans it is often predicated on would be through reason and maturity, (as in actual reasoning, not simple folk slogans marketing themselves as such beyond some faith-like fetishization thereof, despite lacking any particularily outstanding degree or mastery of It to begin with) not through violent means. (This wouldn't be the case in every atheist, no, just many, if not most).No, it's an example of actual atheist behavior, just repeating a simplistic, popular mantra or slogan hoping it to be true, or become true.No, thats an example of a conman making up stuff to soothe himself (you). Here is an actual example:^^^ an example of an atheist’s argument.
" I see no good evidence to believe any of this extraordinary, magical claims. So i don't".
And that's it.
Much as atheists congregate in their own "special interest groups" or echo-chambers, repeating such simplistic beliefs and catchphrases to themselves, much as they likely would Christian, Jewish, or Muslim ones if they simply "changed the channel" or found a different variety of echo-chambering.
(The same can be said for many if not most of what passes for "politics", informed more by popular mass media, than actual books, political theorists, philosophers, and so on).
so you hate atheist, too
are they on your list of "scum to be eliminated"?
The problem with arrogant snots like you is you actually believe YOU are the only smart person and everyone else is just a mindless idiot.
I am an atheist
I resent your fkn snot nosed arrogance about it.
so tel us, what idiotic lunacy to YOU embrace?
So, yeah, I can prove it. In fact, it’s the generally accepted belief in cosmology. The question you should be asking yourself is why you are arguing against the generally accepted belief that the universe popped into existence and then began to expand and cool.
Incorrect. My position is that what you have offered as evidence for a God is lacking. On many levels really. But in general where most so called examples Given by others fall short; is that the existence of a God isn’t the only possible answer to that which they don’t know.
Who said there was one..?
The problem is that you don’t have a realistic perception of what God is. Your perception of God skews your conclusions.
But that would be a lie. That's just another whiny delusion you tell yourself to justify your own assholery.
Ok, for the sake of argument let’s assume there’s not. What caused space and time to exist?
More like an exaggeration.
Sure, ding. Sure.Dude, I didn’t make up anything.No, thats an example of a conman making up stuff to soothe himself (you). Here is an actual example:^^^ an example of an atheist’s argument.
" I see no good evidence to believe any of this extraordinary, magical claims. So i don't".
And that's it.
That was literally the argument of an atheist in response to 24,000 written manuscripts existing which are the basis of the NT.
