Azov Battalion Accuses Russia Of Chemical Attacks In Mariupol, As WP & Poison Gas Allegations Fly

18+ Mariupol Residents Expose War Crimes & Show Dead Ukraine Soldiers​


These age-restricted videos may be CIA-MI6 booby traps to identify the geolocation and user. Lancaster, responsible for this video, should be Googled for further scrutiny, because his pro-Russian video is suspicious.
 
And Russia?

Russia is not on that final UN treaty document between Ukraine, USA and the UK. You would have seen that if you'd looked at it.
This is incorrect.

It is hard to read the signatories, and Ukrainian and Russian Language look a lot alike, but indeed, it was signed by both Ukraine and Russia.
The following are the signatories for their nations.


Budapest Memorandums on Security Assurances, 1994​

". . Signed in four copies having equal validity in the Ukrainian, English and Russian languages.

For Ukraine:

(Signed) Leonid D. KUCHMA

For the Russian Federation:

(Signed) Boris N. YELTSIN

For the United Kingdom of Great

Britain and Northern Ireland:

(Signed) John MAJOR

For the United States of America:

(Signed) William J. CLINTON"
 
LOTS OF PUTIN LOVERS ON USMB...MOST ARE MAGA!
Pootin Lover
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On the subject of Clinton's signature on the document, the USS Little Rock happens to be parked right next door to the USS Sullivans:
 

Translation:

AZOV Battalion is losing badly and are now resorting to false flag tactics to draw in NATO.
The sinking of the Russian battle cruiser ( a huge blow!) was a sophisticated strike most likely done by NATO staff advisory personnel that would include American boots on the ground.

Jo
 
This is incorrect.

It is hard to read the signatories, and Ukrainian and Russian Language look a lot alike, but indeed, it was signed by both Ukraine and Russia.
The following are the signatories for their nations.


Budapest Memorandums on Security Assurances, 1994​

". . Signed in four copies having equal validity in the Ukrainian, English and Russian languages.

For Ukraine:

(Signed) Leonid D. KUCHMA

For the Russian Federation:

(Signed) Boris N. YELTSIN

For the United Kingdom of Great

Britain and Northern Ireland:

(Signed) John MAJOR

For the United States of America:

(Signed) William J. CLINTON"
Not the question. Does Russia recognize it after the 2014 coup and overthrow of the government they did sign with?
 
Translation:

AZOV Battalion is losing badly and are now resorting to false flag tactics to draw in NATO.
The sinking of the Russian battle cruiser ( a huge blow!) was a sophisticated strike most likely done by NATO staff advisory personnel that would include American boots on the ground.

Jo

I heard that Russians lost that cruiser, but I'm not sure how. Ukrainian drones have range about 200 miles, but I don't know they have firepower to sink the ship of that size.
 
I heard that Russians lost that cruiser, but I'm not sure how. Ukrainian drones have range about 200 miles, but I don't know they have firepower to sink the ship of that size.
It was NATO... probably a joint effort of French and US...the article was very careful to indicate Ukrainian made missiles... A little too careful frankly. We will see a shift in the war now....Russia is well aware of what happened.
 
Not the question. Does Russia recognize it after the 2014 coup and overthrow of the government they did sign with?
No idea. . .. Probably not.

Some of what the liberal propaganda says, although it tends toward the hyperbolic, is, slightly true.

Putin has always seen Ukraine, as Russia's "sphere of influence," much like the U.S. feels that Latin America is ours.

. . . and historically? He probably does have a case, which most in the West just don't want to acknowledge, since our nation is, itself, younger than that history. So it is easy for us to ignore that history.

But? If you know that history, and know that is the theater through which the Russians fought both WWI, and WWII, not to mention the Crimea War against the Turks and the Brits. . . one has a better sense of history and WHY the Anglo-American alliance farting around in there, DOES feel like such a threat to them. . .

Every Russian Soldier Is Required to Read This 2021 Putin Article on Ukraine​

"We will never allow our historical territories and people close to us living there to be used against Russia"​



". . .To have a better understanding of the present and look into the future, we need to turn to history. Certainly, it is impossible to cover in this article all the developments that have taken place over more than a thousand years. But I will focus on the key, pivotal moments that are important for us to remember, both in Russia and Ukraine.

Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians are all descendants of Ancient Rus, which was the largest state in Europe. Slavic and other tribes across the vast territory – from Ladoga, Novgorod, and Pskov to Kiev and Chernigov – were bound together by one language (which we now refer to as Old Russian), economic ties, the rule of the princes of the Rurik dynasty, and – after the baptism of Rus – the Orthodox faith. The spiritual choice made by St. Vladimir, who was both Prince of Novgorod and Grand Prince of Kiev, still largely determines our affinity today.

The throne of Kiev held a dominant position in Ancient Rus. This had been the custom since the late 9th century. The Tale of Bygone Years captured for posterity the words of Oleg the Prophet about Kiev, ”Let it be the mother of all Russian cities.“

Principalities_of_Kievan_Rus_1054-1132.jpg

Kievan Rus

<snip>


". . . In April 1920, Symon Petliura (portrayed as one of the ”heroes“ in today’s Ukraine) concluded secret conventions on behalf of the UPR Directorate, giving up – in exchange for military support – Galicia and Western Volhynia lands to Poland. In May 1920, Petliurites entered Kiev in a convoy of Polish military units. But not for long. As early as November 1920, following a truce between Poland and Soviet Russia, the remnants of Petliura’s forces surrendered to those same Poles.

The example of the UPR shows that different kinds of quasi-state formations that emerged across the former Russian Empire at the time of the Civil War and turbulence were inherently unstable. Nationalists sought to create their own independent states, while leaders of the White movement advocated indivisible Russia. Many of the republics established by the Bolsheviks’ supporters did not see themselves outside Russia either. Nevertheless, Bolshevik Party leaders sometimes basically drove them out of Soviet Russia for various reasons.

Thus, in early 1918, the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic was proclaimed and asked Moscow to incorporate it into Soviet Russia. This was met with a refusal. During a meeting with the republic’s leaders, Vladimir Lenin insisted that they act as part of Soviet Ukraine. On 15 March 1918, the Central Committee of the Russian Communist Party (Bolsheviks) directly ordered that delegates be sent to the Ukrainian Congress of Soviets, including from the Donetsk Basin, and that ”one government for all of Ukraine“ be created at the congress. The territories of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic later formed most of the regions of south-eastern Ukraine.. . . "

W6y6T24DB88.jpg

Donetsk-Krivoy Rog

<snip>

". . . What can be said to this? Things change: countries and communities are no exception. Of course, some part of a people in the process of its development, influenced by a number of reasons and historical circumstances, can become aware of itself as a separate nation at a certain moment. How should we treat that? There is only one answer: with respect!

You want to establish a state of your own: you are welcome! But what are the terms?
I will recall the assessment given by one of the most prominent political figures of new Russia, first mayor of Saint Petersburg Anatoly Sobchak. As a legal expert who believed that every decision must be legitimate, in 1992, he shared the following opinion: the republics that were founders of the Union, having denounced the 1922 Union Treaty, must return to the boundaries they had had before joining the Soviet Union. All other territorial acquisitions are subject to discussion, negotiations, given that the ground has been revoked.

In other words, when you leave, take what you brought with you. This logic is hard to refute. I will just say that the Bolsheviks had embarked on reshaping boundaries even before the Soviet Union, manipulating with territories to their liking, in disregard of people’s views.

The Russian Federation recognized the new geopolitical realities: and not only recognized, but, indeed, did a lot for Ukraine to establish itself as an independent country. Throughout the difficult 1990’s and in the new millennium, we have provided considerable support to Ukraine. Whatever ”political arithmetic“ of its own Kiev may wish to apply, in 1991–2013, Ukraine’s budget savings amounted to more than USD 82 billion, while today, it holds on to the mere USD 1.5 billion of Russian payments for gas transit to Europe. If economic ties between our countries had been retained, Ukraine would enjoy the benefit of tens of billions of dollars.

Ukraine and Russia have developed as a single economic system over decades and centuries. The profound cooperation we had 30 years ago is an example for the European Union to look up to. We are natural complementary economic partners. Such a close relationship can strengthen competitive advantages, increasing the potential of both countries.

Ukraine used to possess great potential, which included powerful infrastructure, gas transportation system, advanced shipbuilding, aviation, rocket and instrument engineering industries, as well as world-class scientific, design and engineering schools. Taking over this legacy and declaring independence, Ukrainian leaders promised that the Ukrainian economy would be one of the leading ones and the standard of living would be among the best in Europe.. . . "
 
It was NATO... probably a joint effort of French and US...the article was very careful to indicate Ukrainian made missiles... A little too careful frankly. We will see a shift in the war now....Russia is well aware of what happened.

Ukraine does have anti-ship missiles, I just don't know if capable of being that precise on such distance.

I doubt that French would dare doing anything of that sort against Russia.
Despite they're officially on the EU side, they still have bilateral economic deals with Russia, for example they still importing titanium for the Airbus from Russia, and they equipped some 2000 Russian tanks with new optical systems while EU had embargo for such equipment for Russia. They have long history of mutual interests, such being at the same (Serbian) side during recent wars on Balkans. And last, right after Macron returned from Moscow, he placed order for 14 (I think) new nuclear power plants for France despite the EU agreements on nuclear energy. That tells me he got something from Putin, and that French are not who they portray to be. They're back stabbers, by nature.
 
Let me guess...a MAGA repub?
In this sense, in readiness for fascism and nazism, there is no special difference between the two bourgeois parties. The only thing, for robbery and murder, one party likes to wear a John Wayne Stetson hat, while the other prefers transgender outfits and makeup.
But both parties are ready to lie, rob and kill in the international arena.
Oh, yes, I almost forgot, representatives of both parties will smile while doing this. It is a very pleasant political elite.
 
No idea. . .. Probably not.

Some of what the liberal propaganda says, although it tends toward the hyperbolic, is, slightly true.

Putin has always seen Ukraine, as Russia's "sphere of influence," much like the U.S. feels that Latin America is ours.

. . . and historically? He probably does have a case, which most in the West just don't want to acknowledge, since our nation is, itself, younger than that history. So it is easy for us to ignore that history.

But? If you know that history, and know that is the theater through which the Russians fought both WWI, and WWII, not to mention the Crimea War against the Turks and the Brits. . . one has a better sense of history and WHY the Anglo-American alliance farting around in there, DOES feel like such a threat to them. . .

Every Russian Soldier Is Required to Read This 2021 Putin Article on Ukraine​

"We will never allow our historical territories and people close to us living there to be used against Russia"​



". . .To have a better understanding of the present and look into the future, we need to turn to history. Certainly, it is impossible to cover in this article all the developments that have taken place over more than a thousand years. But I will focus on the key, pivotal moments that are important for us to remember, both in Russia and Ukraine.

Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians are all descendants of Ancient Rus, which was the largest state in Europe. Slavic and other tribes across the vast territory – from Ladoga, Novgorod, and Pskov to Kiev and Chernigov – were bound together by one language (which we now refer to as Old Russian), economic ties, the rule of the princes of the Rurik dynasty, and – after the baptism of Rus – the Orthodox faith. The spiritual choice made by St. Vladimir, who was both Prince of Novgorod and Grand Prince of Kiev, still largely determines our affinity today.

The throne of Kiev held a dominant position in Ancient Rus. This had been the custom since the late 9th century. The Tale of Bygone Years captured for posterity the words of Oleg the Prophet about Kiev, ”Let it be the mother of all Russian cities.“

Principalities_of_Kievan_Rus_1054-1132.jpg

Kievan Rus

<snip>


". . . In April 1920, Symon Petliura (portrayed as one of the ”heroes“ in today’s Ukraine) concluded secret conventions on behalf of the UPR Directorate, giving up – in exchange for military support – Galicia and Western Volhynia lands to Poland. In May 1920, Petliurites entered Kiev in a convoy of Polish military units. But not for long. As early as November 1920, following a truce between Poland and Soviet Russia, the remnants of Petliura’s forces surrendered to those same Poles.

The example of the UPR shows that different kinds of quasi-state formations that emerged across the former Russian Empire at the time of the Civil War and turbulence were inherently unstable. Nationalists sought to create their own independent states, while leaders of the White movement advocated indivisible Russia. Many of the republics established by the Bolsheviks’ supporters did not see themselves outside Russia either. Nevertheless, Bolshevik Party leaders sometimes basically drove them out of Soviet Russia for various reasons.

Thus, in early 1918, the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic was proclaimed and asked Moscow to incorporate it into Soviet Russia. This was met with a refusal. During a meeting with the republic’s leaders, Vladimir Lenin insisted that they act as part of Soviet Ukraine. On 15 March 1918, the Central Committee of the Russian Communist Party (Bolsheviks) directly ordered that delegates be sent to the Ukrainian Congress of Soviets, including from the Donetsk Basin, and that ”one government for all of Ukraine“ be created at the congress. The territories of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic later formed most of the regions of south-eastern Ukraine.. . . "

W6y6T24DB88.jpg

Donetsk-Krivoy Rog

<snip>

". . . What can be said to this? Things change: countries and communities are no exception. Of course, some part of a people in the process of its development, influenced by a number of reasons and historical circumstances, can become aware of itself as a separate nation at a certain moment. How should we treat that? There is only one answer: with respect!

You want to establish a state of your own: you are welcome! But what are the terms?
I will recall the assessment given by one of the most prominent political figures of new Russia, first mayor of Saint Petersburg Anatoly Sobchak. As a legal expert who believed that every decision must be legitimate, in 1992, he shared the following opinion: the republics that were founders of the Union, having denounced the 1922 Union Treaty, must return to the boundaries they had had before joining the Soviet Union. All other territorial acquisitions are subject to discussion, negotiations, given that the ground has been revoked.

In other words, when you leave, take what you brought with you. This logic is hard to refute. I will just say that the Bolsheviks had embarked on reshaping boundaries even before the Soviet Union, manipulating with territories to their liking, in disregard of people’s views.

The Russian Federation recognized the new geopolitical realities: and not only recognized, but, indeed, did a lot for Ukraine to establish itself as an independent country. Throughout the difficult 1990’s and in the new millennium, we have provided considerable support to Ukraine. Whatever ”political arithmetic“ of its own Kiev may wish to apply, in 1991–2013, Ukraine’s budget savings amounted to more than USD 82 billion, while today, it holds on to the mere USD 1.5 billion of Russian payments for gas transit to Europe. If economic ties between our countries had been retained, Ukraine would enjoy the benefit of tens of billions of dollars.

Ukraine and Russia have developed as a single economic system over decades and centuries. The profound cooperation we had 30 years ago is an example for the European Union to look up to. We are natural complementary economic partners. Such a close relationship can strengthen competitive advantages, increasing the potential of both countries.

Ukraine used to possess great potential, which included powerful infrastructure, gas transportation system, advanced shipbuilding, aviation, rocket and instrument engineering industries, as well as world-class scientific, design and engineering schools. Taking over this legacy and declaring independence, Ukrainian leaders promised that the Ukrainian economy would be one of the leading ones and the standard of living would be among the best in Europe.. . . "
Thanks for showing the scholarly, historical side of Putin. The Bolshevik attempt to re-shape boundaries, recalling Fenelon: "Lines of the Universe are feminine, lines of the State, prostitutional."
 
^ "Does Russia recognize it after the 2014 coup?"

'....Putin added that there was "no prospect" of a peace plan to end the conflict in eastern Ukraine, where Kyiv had been fighting the separatists since 2014....Putin said the discussion was not about "adding" the separatist-controlled areas to Russian territory.'
 

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