“Avoid Violence” – Liberals’ New Phony Excuse

[jc456]

A real liberal is not an authoritarian nor a member of ANTIFA..

Bingo, correct, and the people who have taken over college campuses and the Democratic Party are not real liberals.
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Which is why I turned my back on them during Clinton..

why do you support Antifa then?

 

[impuretrash]

A real liberal is not an authoritarian nor a member of ANTIFA..

Bingo, correct, and the people who have taken over college campuses and the Democratic Party are not real liberals.
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Then why does left wing elites in the media and politics have such a problem with Trump condemning 'both sides'..?

 

[Wry Catcher]

I'm not biased against Trump based on his color, ethnicity or wealth. I find his tweets to be stupid and divisive, his policies erratic, his arrogance intolerable and his character to be seriously flawed.

well as long as you are not biased.

Disliking somebody for their actions is different than disliking them for their skin color, appearance, gender, religion or sexual orientation.... You gotta know that

Of course.

But when someone tunnel visions to pure hate, what is the difference in the end? A better reason to hate is still hate.

May I have a bit more dressing for this ^^^ word salad?

Your lack of comprehension isn't my issue.

Have a great Friday.

Your lack of detail was the basis of my question/comment. "A better reason to hate is still hate" is enigmatic, it is tautological and no more enlightening than 2 is 2.

"Hate" is an emotion as strong as love, though (thankfully) more rare. It is mostly used as a pejorative on political message boards and does not do justice to the actual hate inherent in racism and descriptive of a motivator in the words of despotic demagogues.

 

[Mac1958]

Then why does left wing elites in the media and politics have such a problem with Trump condemning 'both sides'..?

Well, two reasons.

First, he should have had the basic awareness to know how to prioritize the death caused by the white "supremacist". That's a matter of having a fundamental understanding of the dynamics of our present culture, and he failed that test pretty badly.

Second, that failure provided the media and the Regressives a golden opportunity to jump all over him and make as big a deal as they possibly could about it, which they're going to do every chance they get.

So, in a similar situation, had Obama concentrated 100% on blaming the Right, he would have been given a total pass by the media.

It is what it is. But it's Trump's responsibility to know that, or he can deal with it.
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[impuretrash]

A real liberal is not an authoritarian nor a member of ANTIFA..

Bingo, correct, and the people who have taken over college campuses and the Democratic Party are not real liberals.

Then why does left wing elites in the media and politics have such a problem with Trump condemning 'both sides'..?

Well, two reasons.

First, he should have had the basic awareness to know how to prioritize the death caused by the white "supremacist". That's a matter of having a fundamental understanding of the dynamics of our present culture, and he failed that test pretty badly.

Second, that failure provided the media and the Regressives a golden opportunity to jump all over him and make as big a deal as they possibly could about it, which they're going to do every chance they get.

So, in a similar situation, had Obama concentrated 100% on blaming the Right, he would have been given a total pass by the media.

It is what it is. But it's Trump's responsibility to know that, or he can deal with it.
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So you're saying he should have bowed to political correctness, lied and given Antifa a pass..?

 

[AntonToo]

Especially in the Charlottesville turmoil, it has become routine for liberal city fathers to not permit marches, rallies protests, or other forms of conservative free speech. Alleged fear of violence is being used as the excuse. Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked.

Conservatives, (both rational and radical), are being denied access to public speaking events. Recently, the University of California at Berkeley canceled conservative commentator Ann Coulter’s April 27 speech, amid threats of violence. In February, UC Berkeley also canceled a campus event featuring conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, after protesters threw rocks, broke windows, and set fires outside the school’s student union building to protest his appearance.

Some liberals have openly lent support to this speech stifling. Richard Cohen of Southern Poverty Law Center said that students and universities “should not give racists an audience.” That within the context of his definition of “racists”.

In other eyebrow raising events, Michael Savage has been banned from an entire, very liberal country (England). And in San Francisco, the pro-Trump group Patriot Prayer canceled the “Freedom Rally,” they had planned, due to excpected violence from counterprotesters, and a likely lack of police protection (FOR THEM). Organizers of the “Freedom Rally,” blamed the cancellation of their event on public officials, who they say have falsely portrayed them as violent right-wing extremists intent on bringing hate to San Francisco. Speaking with reporters Saturday afternoon, Joey Gibson, founder of Patriot Prayer, also blamed “antifa,” referring to anti-fascist groups, and BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary, a left-wing group. He said the groups followed them throughout the day and kept them from holding events.

But is it really violence that these pious politicians are worried about ? Or is it the truth they fear ? >> …..and that conservatives could deprogram millions of brainwashed and wrongheaded people ?

There is really no reason to fear violence in the street, on college campuses, or anywhere else. Whatever troublemaker loons begin to cause can be controlled and stopped quickly and effectively, by police, private security, state police, and National Guard if necessary. At worst, federal troops can stop civil disturbances, but rarely would that be necessary.

The only reason violence has been occurring in US streets (Chicago, San Jose, Ferguson, Baltimore, New York, Charlottesville) is because Democrat mayors have been stopping their police from taking action . As in these cities, in Tampa, FL, protestors blocked traffic in a downtown street for about 2 hours. Police made no arrests. Took no action. Why ? Democrat mayor in political sympathy with the traffic blockers (AKA “terrorists”), could be the only reason. No way, this was the decision of police, on their own. It is politics gone wild (and crazy) that is responsible for violence BEING PERMITTED, and coming from mayors’ offices.

Simple solution ? Don’t permit violence. Crack down on it, and hard. When the leftist, anarchist nuts know they will be arrested, and cannot stop free speech of conservatives (or anyone), their whole regimen will cease.

They only show up and cause violence (in cities with Democrat mayors) when they know that mayor will have police stand down, and allow them to block traffic, attack protesters, vandalize monuments or other public items, shout down speakers, etc.

Threat of violence ? Bull! Don’t you believe that. That is a red herring. Violence can easily be stopped (or prevented entirely) as long as there is a WILL to stop it. America’s problem right now is rogue mayors who allow it, by handcuffing their own police, and occasionally Democrat governors (ex. Jay Nixon - Missouri), who called out the National Guard, in response to the Ferguson rioting, and then moved them far away from the violence/rioting.

Pro-Trump group cancels San Francisco rally as hundreds of counterprotesters march on the streets

College students testify: Free speech under assault on campuses

yep it seems the reward goes to the violent antifa's how white of them. That only promotes violence btw. The way to remove the violence is to let the cops do their jobs and take these whackamoles out. You'll see that stop immediately. It's the equivalent of saying taking guns out of the hands of innocent people to allow the villain access and commit violence. It is only the stupid of the left. amazing.

ANTIFA are violent anarchists, they don't represent liberals democrats conservatives or republicans.

Why do they only protest republicans? Sorry, but you aren't going to convince people that what they see with their own eyes isn't true.

You guys own ANTIFA now.

sorta like you own Nazis now, right?

Have you seen republicans romanticising Nazis? I can post MANY left leaning articles that minimize their violent actions and sometimes they even commend these fucking people. Up until a few weeks ago, your side viewed ANTIFA members as patriots.

I have seen Republicans deflecting to Antifa while making excuses and equalization for Nazis and white supremacists that are the REAL problem in this country for a VERY long time now.

What I have seen from the left generally though is wholesale condemnation of violence, and calls to PEACEFUL protesting.

 

[Mac1958]

A real liberal is not an authoritarian nor a member of ANTIFA..

Bingo, correct, and the people who have taken over college campuses and the Democratic Party are not real liberals.

Then why does left wing elites in the media and politics have such a problem with Trump condemning 'both sides'..?

Well, two reasons.

First, he should have had the basic awareness to know how to prioritize the death caused by the white "supremacist". That's a matter of having a fundamental understanding of the dynamics of our present culture, and he failed that test pretty badly.

Second, that failure provided the media and the Regressives a golden opportunity to jump all over him and make as big a deal as they possibly could about it, which they're going to do every chance they get.

So, in a similar situation, had Obama concentrated 100% on blaming the Right, he would have been given a total pass by the media.

It is what it is. But it's Trump's responsibility to know that, or he can deal with it.
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So you're saying he should have bowed to political correctness, lied and given Antifa a pass..?

Nope. As I said in the last line, it is what it is. He can say whatever he wants, but he'd be much smarter to think ahead a few steps.

If he knows the media is after him, he can outsmart them, or he can just play right into their routine. His call.
.

 

[iceberg]

well as long as you are not biased.

Disliking somebody for their actions is different than disliking them for their skin color, appearance, gender, religion or sexual orientation.... You gotta know that

Of course.

But when someone tunnel visions to pure hate, what is the difference in the end? A better reason to hate is still hate.

May I have a bit more dressing for this ^^^ word salad?

Your lack of comprehension isn't my issue.

Have a great Friday.

Your lack of detail was the basis of my question/comment. "A better reason to hate is still hate" is enigmatic, it is tautological and no more enlightening than 2 is 2.

"Hate" is an emotion as strong as love, though (thankfully) more rare. It is mostly used as a pejorative on political message boards and does not do justice to the actual hate inherent in racism and descriptive of a motivator in the words of despotic demagogues.

if you couldn't understand what i was saying, more detail wouldn't help. likely only sidetrack you somewhere else away from the topic.

hate is hate. using your own moral compass as to what justifies hate it pretty pointless.

 

[impuretrash]

I have seen Republicans deflecting to Antifa while making excuses and equalization for Nazis and white supremacists that are the REAL problem in this country for a VERY long time now.

What I have seen from the left generally though is wholesale condemnation of violence, and calls to PEACEFUL protesting.

Sorry bro but the left OWNS the violence in charlottesville. If the leftist scum who runs the state and city hadn't set up a recipe for disaster by telling police to stand down, and not keeping the two groups separate, nobody would have been hurt.

 

[bendog]

A real liberal is not an authoritarian nor a member of ANTIFA..

Bingo, correct, and the people who have taken over college campuses and the Democratic Party are not real liberals.

Then why does left wing elites in the media and politics have such a problem with Trump condemning 'both sides'..?

Well, two reasons.

First, he should have had the basic awareness to know how to prioritize the death caused by the white "supremacist". That's a matter of having a fundamental understanding of the dynamics of our present culture, and he failed that test pretty badly.

Second, that failure provided the media and the Regressives a golden opportunity to jump all over him and make as big a deal as they possibly could about it, which they're going to do every chance they get.

So, in a similar situation, had Obama concentrated 100% on blaming the Right, he would have been given a total pass by the media.

It is what it is. But it's Trump's responsibility to know that, or he can deal with it.
.

So you're saying he should have bowed to political correctness, lied and given Antifa a pass..?

ANTIFA did not march with torches and Nazi chants on a synagogue and school in violation of its parade permit, and ANTIFA didn't drive a car into a pedestrian mall.

Neither you nor the Orange Orb seem intellectually capable of grasping that distinction of attacking "non-combatants"

 

[bendog]

I have seen Republicans deflecting to Antifa while making excuses and equalization for Nazis and white supremacists that are the REAL problem in this country for a VERY long time now.

What I have seen from the left generally though is wholesale condemnation of violence, and calls to PEACEFUL protesting.

Sorry bro but the left OWNS the violence in charlottesville. If the leftist scum who runs the state and city hadn't set up a recipe for disaster by telling police to stand down, and not keeping the two groups separate, nobody would have been hurt.[/QUOTE}

you are trash. Dump.

 

[impuretrash]

Nope. As I said in the last line, it is what it is. He can say whatever he wants, but he'd be much smarter to think ahead a few steps.

If he knows the media is after him, he can outsmart them, or he can just play right into their routine. His call.
.

So let the media dictate policy is basically what you're saying.

 

[Mac1958]

Nope. As I said in the last line, it is what it is. He can say whatever he wants, but he'd be much smarter to think ahead a few steps.

If he knows the media is after him, he can outsmart them, or he can just play right into their routine. His call.
.

So let the media dictate policy is basically what you're saying.

Holy crap. I give up.

Okay, sure.
.

 

[impuretrash]

ANTIFA did not march with torches and Nazi chants on a synagogue and school in violation of its parade permit, and ANTIFA didn't drive a car into a pedestrian mall.

Neither you nor the Orange Orb seem intellectually capable of grasping that distinction of attacking "non-combatants"

LOL "marched on a synagogue" what a steaming load of bullshit. Stop lying, scumbag.

 

[impuretrash]

Nope. As I said in the last line, it is what it is. He can say whatever he wants, but he'd be much smarter to think ahead a few steps.

If he knows the media is after him, he can outsmart them, or he can just play right into their routine. His call.
.

So let the media dictate policy is basically what you're saying.

Holy crap. I give up.

Okay, sure.
.

Yeah GTFO with your moral relativism.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Disliking somebody for their actions is different than disliking them for their skin color, appearance, gender, religion or sexual orientation.... You gotta know that

Of course.

But when someone tunnel visions to pure hate, what is the difference in the end? A better reason to hate is still hate.

May I have a bit more dressing for this ^^^ word salad?

Your lack of comprehension isn't my issue.

Have a great Friday.

Your lack of detail was the basis of my question/comment. "A better reason to hate is still hate" is enigmatic, it is tautological and no more enlightening than 2 is 2.

"Hate" is an emotion as strong as love, though (thankfully) more rare. It is mostly used as a pejorative on political message boards and does not do justice to the actual hate inherent in racism and descriptive of a motivator in the words of despotic demagogues.

if you couldn't understand what i was saying, more detail wouldn't help. likely only sidetrack you somewhere else away from the topic.

hate is hate. using your own moral compass as to what justifies hate it pretty pointless.

In short, you can't respond to my question. I pointed out "hate" in terms of racism and its use by Trump in his stump speech. In your comment you claimed hate is hate, that is no different than stating it will rain today or it will not rain today, neither is enlightening.

Do you deny that the infamous "Torch March" was not hate on display?

To use the concept of a "moral compass" when discussing hate seems unseemly. Like porn, you know it when you see it. I saw it, and so did more than half of our countrymen on display at Charlottesville . In that specific case, those who defend the marchers are part of the problem.

 

[impuretrash]

Do you deny that the infamous "Torch March" was not hate on display?

I deny it.

 

[AntonToo]

I have seen Republicans deflecting to Antifa while making excuses and equalization for Nazis and white supremacists that are the REAL problem in this country for a VERY long time now.

What I have seen from the left generally though is wholesale condemnation of violence, and calls to PEACEFUL protesting.

Sorry bro but the left OWNS the violence in charlottesville. If the leftist scum who runs the state and city hadn't set up a recipe for disaster by telling police to stand down, and not keeping the two groups separate, nobody would have been hurt.

Sure sure

it's everyone else's fault EXCEPT the the actual perps.

 

[iceberg]

Of course.

But when someone tunnel visions to pure hate, what is the difference in the end? A better reason to hate is still hate.

May I have a bit more dressing for this ^^^ word salad?

Your lack of comprehension isn't my issue.

Have a great Friday.

Your lack of detail was the basis of my question/comment. "A better reason to hate is still hate" is enigmatic, it is tautological and no more enlightening than 2 is 2.

"Hate" is an emotion as strong as love, though (thankfully) more rare. It is mostly used as a pejorative on political message boards and does not do justice to the actual hate inherent in racism and descriptive of a motivator in the words of despotic demagogues.

if you couldn't understand what i was saying, more detail wouldn't help. likely only sidetrack you somewhere else away from the topic.

hate is hate. using your own moral compass as to what justifies hate it pretty pointless.

In short, you can't respond to my question. I pointed out "hate" in terms of racism and its use by Trump in his stump speech. In your comment you claimed hate is hate, that is no different than stating it will rain today or it will not rain today, neither is enlightening.

Do you deny that the infamous "Torch March" was not hate on display?

To use the concept of a "moral compass" when discussing hate seems unseemly. Like porn, you know it when you see it. I saw it, and so did more than half of our countrymen on display at Charlottesville . In that specific case, those who defend the marchers are part of the problem.

you pointed it out in a very specific scenario designed to purely get the reply you are fishing for.

if you think for a moment the *hate* was only held to one side, you are part of the problem.

not much else i can tell you.

 

[impuretrash]

Sure sure

it's everyone else's fault EXCEPT the the actual perps.

Are you denying that the police stood by and did nothing other than disband the rally before it even took place, and herded the right wing guys into the angry mob?