“Avoid Violence” – Liberals’ New Phony Excuse

[iceberg]

I wasn't commenting on your words. I was adding my own thought. You're welcome.

You added your bias, which likely explains why you are a Trumpanzee. Learn to read and listen actively, and then you might recognized what Trump really is behind the curtain of your biases.

as said from someone who obviously has zero biases *against* trump...

I'm not biased against Trump based on his color, ethnicity or wealth. I find his tweets to be stupid and divisive, his policies erratic, his arrogance intolerable and his character to be seriously flawed.

well as long as you are not biased.

Disliking somebody for their actions is different than disliking them for their skin color, appearance, gender, religion or sexual orientation.... You gotta know that

Of course.

But when someone tunnel visions to pure hate, what is the difference in the end? A better reason to hate is still hate.

 

[Wry Catcher]

You added your bias, which likely explains why you are a Trumpanzee. Learn to read and listen actively, and then you might recognized what Trump really is behind the curtain of your biases.

as said from someone who obviously has zero biases *against* trump...

I'm not biased against Trump based on his color, ethnicity or wealth. I find his tweets to be stupid and divisive, his policies erratic, his arrogance intolerable and his character to be seriously flawed.

well as long as you are not biased.

Disliking somebody for their actions is different than disliking them for their skin color, appearance, gender, religion or sexual orientation.... You gotta know that

Of course.

But when someone tunnel visions to pure hate, what is the difference in the end? A better reason to hate is still hate.

May I have a bit more dressing for this ^^^ word salad?

 

[Godboy]

Especially in the Charlottesville turmoil, it has become routine for liberal city fathers to not permit marches, rallies protests, or other forms of conservative free speech. Alleged fear of violence is being used as the excuse. Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked.

Conservatives, (both rational and radical), are being denied access to public speaking events. Recently, the University of California at Berkeley canceled conservative commentator Ann Coulter’s April 27 speech, amid threats of violence. In February, UC Berkeley also canceled a campus event featuring conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, after protesters threw rocks, broke windows, and set fires outside the school’s student union building to protest his appearance.

Some liberals have openly lent support to this speech stifling. Richard Cohen of Southern Poverty Law Center said that students and universities “should not give racists an audience.” That within the context of his definition of “racists”.

In other eyebrow raising events, Michael Savage has been banned from an entire, very liberal country (England). And in San Francisco, the pro-Trump group Patriot Prayer canceled the “Freedom Rally,” they had planned, due to excpected violence from counterprotesters, and a likely lack of police protection (FOR THEM). Organizers of the “Freedom Rally,” blamed the cancellation of their event on public officials, who they say have falsely portrayed them as violent right-wing extremists intent on bringing hate to San Francisco. Speaking with reporters Saturday afternoon, Joey Gibson, founder of Patriot Prayer, also blamed “antifa,” referring to anti-fascist groups, and BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary, a left-wing group. He said the groups followed them throughout the day and kept them from holding events.

But is it really violence that these pious politicians are worried about ? Or is it the truth they fear ? >> …..and that conservatives could deprogram millions of brainwashed and wrongheaded people ?

There is really no reason to fear violence in the street, on college campuses, or anywhere else. Whatever troublemaker loons begin to cause can be controlled and stopped quickly and effectively, by police, private security, state police, and National Guard if necessary. At worst, federal troops can stop civil disturbances, but rarely would that be necessary.

The only reason violence has been occurring in US streets (Chicago, San Jose, Ferguson, Baltimore, New York, Charlottesville) is because Democrat mayors have been stopping their police from taking action . As in these cities, in Tampa, FL, protestors blocked traffic in a downtown street for about 2 hours. Police made no arrests. Took no action. Why ? Democrat mayor in political sympathy with the traffic blockers (AKA “terrorists”), could be the only reason. No way, this was the decision of police, on their own. It is politics gone wild (and crazy) that is responsible for violence BEING PERMITTED, and coming from mayors’ offices.

Simple solution ? Don’t permit violence. Crack down on it, and hard. When the leftist, anarchist nuts know they will be arrested, and cannot stop free speech of conservatives (or anyone), their whole regimen will cease.

They only show up and cause violence (in cities with Democrat mayors) when they know that mayor will have police stand down, and allow them to block traffic, attack protesters, vandalize monuments or other public items, shout down speakers, etc.

Threat of violence ? Bull! Don’t you believe that. That is a red herring. Violence can easily be stopped (or prevented entirely) as long as there is a WILL to stop it. America’s problem right now is rogue mayors who allow it, by handcuffing their own police, and occasionally Democrat governors (ex. Jay Nixon - Missouri), who called out the National Guard, in response to the Ferguson rioting, and then moved them far away from the violence/rioting.

Pro-Trump group cancels San Francisco rally as hundreds of counterprotesters march on the streets

College students testify: Free speech under assault on campuses

yep it seems the reward goes to the violent antifa's how white of them. That only promotes violence btw. The way to remove the violence is to let the cops do their jobs and take these whackamoles out. You'll see that stop immediately. It's the equivalent of saying taking guns out of the hands of innocent people to allow the villain access and commit violence. It is only the stupid of the left. amazing.

ANTIFA are violent anarchists, they don't represent liberals democrats conservatives or republicans.

Why do they only protest republicans? Sorry, but you aren't going to convince people that what they see with their own eyes isn't true.

You guys own ANTIFA now.

 

[AntonToo]

Especially in the Charlottesville turmoil, it has become routine for liberal city fathers to not permit marches, rallies protests, or other forms of conservative free speech. Alleged fear of violence is being used as the excuse. Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked.

Conservatives, (both rational and radical), are being denied access to public speaking events. Recently, the University of California at Berkeley canceled conservative commentator Ann Coulter’s April 27 speech, amid threats of violence. In February, UC Berkeley also canceled a campus event featuring conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, after protesters threw rocks, broke windows, and set fires outside the school’s student union building to protest his appearance.

Some liberals have openly lent support to this speech stifling. Richard Cohen of Southern Poverty Law Center said that students and universities “should not give racists an audience.” That within the context of his definition of “racists”.

In other eyebrow raising events, Michael Savage has been banned from an entire, very liberal country (England). And in San Francisco, the pro-Trump group Patriot Prayer canceled the “Freedom Rally,” they had planned, due to excpected violence from counterprotesters, and a likely lack of police protection (FOR THEM). Organizers of the “Freedom Rally,” blamed the cancellation of their event on public officials, who they say have falsely portrayed them as violent right-wing extremists intent on bringing hate to San Francisco. Speaking with reporters Saturday afternoon, Joey Gibson, founder of Patriot Prayer, also blamed “antifa,” referring to anti-fascist groups, and BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary, a left-wing group. He said the groups followed them throughout the day and kept them from holding events.

But is it really violence that these pious politicians are worried about ? Or is it the truth they fear ? >> …..and that conservatives could deprogram millions of brainwashed and wrongheaded people ?

There is really no reason to fear violence in the street, on college campuses, or anywhere else. Whatever troublemaker loons begin to cause can be controlled and stopped quickly and effectively, by police, private security, state police, and National Guard if necessary. At worst, federal troops can stop civil disturbances, but rarely would that be necessary.

The only reason violence has been occurring in US streets (Chicago, San Jose, Ferguson, Baltimore, New York, Charlottesville) is because Democrat mayors have been stopping their police from taking action . As in these cities, in Tampa, FL, protestors blocked traffic in a downtown street for about 2 hours. Police made no arrests. Took no action. Why ? Democrat mayor in political sympathy with the traffic blockers (AKA “terrorists”), could be the only reason. No way, this was the decision of police, on their own. It is politics gone wild (and crazy) that is responsible for violence BEING PERMITTED, and coming from mayors’ offices.

Simple solution ? Don’t permit violence. Crack down on it, and hard. When the leftist, anarchist nuts know they will be arrested, and cannot stop free speech of conservatives (or anyone), their whole regimen will cease.

They only show up and cause violence (in cities with Democrat mayors) when they know that mayor will have police stand down, and allow them to block traffic, attack protesters, vandalize monuments or other public items, shout down speakers, etc.

Threat of violence ? Bull! Don’t you believe that. That is a red herring. Violence can easily be stopped (or prevented entirely) as long as there is a WILL to stop it. America’s problem right now is rogue mayors who allow it, by handcuffing their own police, and occasionally Democrat governors (ex. Jay Nixon - Missouri), who called out the National Guard, in response to the Ferguson rioting, and then moved them far away from the violence/rioting.

Pro-Trump group cancels San Francisco rally as hundreds of counterprotesters march on the streets

College students testify: Free speech under assault on campuses

yep it seems the reward goes to the violent antifa's how white of them. That only promotes violence btw. The way to remove the violence is to let the cops do their jobs and take these whackamoles out. You'll see that stop immediately. It's the equivalent of saying taking guns out of the hands of innocent people to allow the villain access and commit violence. It is only the stupid of the left. amazing.

ANTIFA are violent anarchists, they don't represent liberals democrats conservatives or republicans.

Why do they only protest republicans? Sorry, but you aren't going to convince people that what they see with their own eyes isn't true.

You guys own ANTIFA now.

sorta like you own Nazis now, right?

 

[Godboy]

Especially in the Charlottesville turmoil, it has become routine for liberal city fathers to not permit marches, rallies protests, or other forms of conservative free speech. Alleged fear of violence is being used as the excuse. Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked.

Conservatives, (both rational and radical), are being denied access to public speaking events. Recently, the University of California at Berkeley canceled conservative commentator Ann Coulter’s April 27 speech, amid threats of violence. In February, UC Berkeley also canceled a campus event featuring conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, after protesters threw rocks, broke windows, and set fires outside the school’s student union building to protest his appearance.

Some liberals have openly lent support to this speech stifling. Richard Cohen of Southern Poverty Law Center said that students and universities “should not give racists an audience.” That within the context of his definition of “racists”.

In other eyebrow raising events, Michael Savage has been banned from an entire, very liberal country (England). And in San Francisco, the pro-Trump group Patriot Prayer canceled the “Freedom Rally,” they had planned, due to excpected violence from counterprotesters, and a likely lack of police protection (FOR THEM). Organizers of the “Freedom Rally,” blamed the cancellation of their event on public officials, who they say have falsely portrayed them as violent right-wing extremists intent on bringing hate to San Francisco. Speaking with reporters Saturday afternoon, Joey Gibson, founder of Patriot Prayer, also blamed “antifa,” referring to anti-fascist groups, and BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary, a left-wing group. He said the groups followed them throughout the day and kept them from holding events.

But is it really violence that these pious politicians are worried about ? Or is it the truth they fear ? >> …..and that conservatives could deprogram millions of brainwashed and wrongheaded people ?

There is really no reason to fear violence in the street, on college campuses, or anywhere else. Whatever troublemaker loons begin to cause can be controlled and stopped quickly and effectively, by police, private security, state police, and National Guard if necessary. At worst, federal troops can stop civil disturbances, but rarely would that be necessary.

The only reason violence has been occurring in US streets (Chicago, San Jose, Ferguson, Baltimore, New York, Charlottesville) is because Democrat mayors have been stopping their police from taking action . As in these cities, in Tampa, FL, protestors blocked traffic in a downtown street for about 2 hours. Police made no arrests. Took no action. Why ? Democrat mayor in political sympathy with the traffic blockers (AKA “terrorists”), could be the only reason. No way, this was the decision of police, on their own. It is politics gone wild (and crazy) that is responsible for violence BEING PERMITTED, and coming from mayors’ offices.

Simple solution ? Don’t permit violence. Crack down on it, and hard. When the leftist, anarchist nuts know they will be arrested, and cannot stop free speech of conservatives (or anyone), their whole regimen will cease.

They only show up and cause violence (in cities with Democrat mayors) when they know that mayor will have police stand down, and allow them to block traffic, attack protesters, vandalize monuments or other public items, shout down speakers, etc.

Threat of violence ? Bull! Don’t you believe that. That is a red herring. Violence can easily be stopped (or prevented entirely) as long as there is a WILL to stop it. America’s problem right now is rogue mayors who allow it, by handcuffing their own police, and occasionally Democrat governors (ex. Jay Nixon - Missouri), who called out the National Guard, in response to the Ferguson rioting, and then moved them far away from the violence/rioting.

Pro-Trump group cancels San Francisco rally as hundreds of counterprotesters march on the streets

College students testify: Free speech under assault on campuses

yep it seems the reward goes to the violent antifa's how white of them. That only promotes violence btw. The way to remove the violence is to let the cops do their jobs and take these whackamoles out. You'll see that stop immediately. It's the equivalent of saying taking guns out of the hands of innocent people to allow the villain access and commit violence. It is only the stupid of the left. amazing.

ANTIFA are violent anarchists, they don't represent liberals democrats conservatives or republicans.

Why do they only protest republicans? Sorry, but you aren't going to convince people that what they see with their own eyes isn't true.

You guys own ANTIFA now.

sorta like you own Nazis now, right?

Have you seen republicans romanticising Nazis? I can post MANY left leaning articles that minimize their violent actions and sometimes they even commend these fucking people. Up until a few weeks ago, your side viewed ANTIFA members as patriots.

 

[WEATHER53]

So U Cal Berk. will let conservatives talk if the hall is half empty because if it's full the security may not be able to handle protesting aggressors

 

[Slade3200]

You added your bias, which likely explains why you are a Trumpanzee. Learn to read and listen actively, and then you might recognized what Trump really is behind the curtain of your biases.

as said from someone who obviously has zero biases *against* trump...

I'm not biased against Trump based on his color, ethnicity or wealth. I find his tweets to be stupid and divisive, his policies erratic, his arrogance intolerable and his character to be seriously flawed.

well as long as you are not biased.

Disliking somebody for their actions is different than disliking them for their skin color, appearance, gender, religion or sexual orientation.... You gotta know that

Of course.

But when someone tunnel visions to pure hate, what is the difference in the end? A better reason to hate is still hate.

I'm a pretty strong objector to Trump I think he is an embarrassment to the office but I don't hate the guy. I was actually a fan of his before he ran and showed how much of a douchebag he could be. I still laugh at pretty much everything he does as I find him completely transparent. Despite all that I think he could still do some great things if he ever learns to check his ego. I'm not holding my breath though

 

[Slade3200]

Especially in the Charlottesville turmoil, it has become routine for liberal city fathers to not permit marches, rallies protests, or other forms of conservative free speech. Alleged fear of violence is being used as the excuse. Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked.

Conservatives, (both rational and radical), are being denied access to public speaking events. Recently, the University of California at Berkeley canceled conservative commentator Ann Coulter’s April 27 speech, amid threats of violence. In February, UC Berkeley also canceled a campus event featuring conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, after protesters threw rocks, broke windows, and set fires outside the school’s student union building to protest his appearance.

Some liberals have openly lent support to this speech stifling. Richard Cohen of Southern Poverty Law Center said that students and universities “should not give racists an audience.” That within the context of his definition of “racists”.

In other eyebrow raising events, Michael Savage has been banned from an entire, very liberal country (England). And in San Francisco, the pro-Trump group Patriot Prayer canceled the “Freedom Rally,” they had planned, due to excpected violence from counterprotesters, and a likely lack of police protection (FOR THEM). Organizers of the “Freedom Rally,” blamed the cancellation of their event on public officials, who they say have falsely portrayed them as violent right-wing extremists intent on bringing hate to San Francisco. Speaking with reporters Saturday afternoon, Joey Gibson, founder of Patriot Prayer, also blamed “antifa,” referring to anti-fascist groups, and BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary, a left-wing group. He said the groups followed them throughout the day and kept them from holding events.

But is it really violence that these pious politicians are worried about ? Or is it the truth they fear ? >> …..and that conservatives could deprogram millions of brainwashed and wrongheaded people ?

There is really no reason to fear violence in the street, on college campuses, or anywhere else. Whatever troublemaker loons begin to cause can be controlled and stopped quickly and effectively, by police, private security, state police, and National Guard if necessary. At worst, federal troops can stop civil disturbances, but rarely would that be necessary.

The only reason violence has been occurring in US streets (Chicago, San Jose, Ferguson, Baltimore, New York, Charlottesville) is because Democrat mayors have been stopping their police from taking action . As in these cities, in Tampa, FL, protestors blocked traffic in a downtown street for about 2 hours. Police made no arrests. Took no action. Why ? Democrat mayor in political sympathy with the traffic blockers (AKA “terrorists”), could be the only reason. No way, this was the decision of police, on their own. It is politics gone wild (and crazy) that is responsible for violence BEING PERMITTED, and coming from mayors’ offices.

Simple solution ? Don’t permit violence. Crack down on it, and hard. When the leftist, anarchist nuts know they will be arrested, and cannot stop free speech of conservatives (or anyone), their whole regimen will cease.

They only show up and cause violence (in cities with Democrat mayors) when they know that mayor will have police stand down, and allow them to block traffic, attack protesters, vandalize monuments or other public items, shout down speakers, etc.

Threat of violence ? Bull! Don’t you believe that. That is a red herring. Violence can easily be stopped (or prevented entirely) as long as there is a WILL to stop it. America’s problem right now is rogue mayors who allow it, by handcuffing their own police, and occasionally Democrat governors (ex. Jay Nixon - Missouri), who called out the National Guard, in response to the Ferguson rioting, and then moved them far away from the violence/rioting.

Pro-Trump group cancels San Francisco rally as hundreds of counterprotesters march on the streets

College students testify: Free speech under assault on campuses

yep it seems the reward goes to the violent antifa's how white of them. That only promotes violence btw. The way to remove the violence is to let the cops do their jobs and take these whackamoles out. You'll see that stop immediately. It's the equivalent of saying taking guns out of the hands of innocent people to allow the villain access and commit violence. It is only the stupid of the left. amazing.

ANTIFA are violent anarchists, they don't represent liberals democrats conservatives or republicans.

Why do they only protest republicans? Sorry, but you aren't going to convince people that what they see with their own eyes isn't true.

You guys own ANTIFA now.

Do I really need to explain this to you? Give it a a little brain power and try to understand. Try using a kkk "Right" comparison

 

[iceberg]

as said from someone who obviously has zero biases *against* trump...

I'm not biased against Trump based on his color, ethnicity or wealth. I find his tweets to be stupid and divisive, his policies erratic, his arrogance intolerable and his character to be seriously flawed.

well as long as you are not biased.

Disliking somebody for their actions is different than disliking them for their skin color, appearance, gender, religion or sexual orientation.... You gotta know that

Of course.

But when someone tunnel visions to pure hate, what is the difference in the end? A better reason to hate is still hate.

May I have a bit more dressing for this ^^^ word salad?

Your lack of comprehension isn't my issue.

Have a great Friday.

 

[Mac1958]

Colleges that use the transparent "but there will be violence" excuse to shut down opposing speech are, in fact, indicting Regressives who won't be able to control themselves.

Why don't the Regressives ever point out that obvious fact?

Why don't we see them demanding better from each other, why don't we see them supporting free expression from those who disagree?

Hmm! I wonder!
.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Especially in the Charlottesville turmoil, it has become routine for liberal city fathers to not permit marches, rallies protests, or other forms of conservative free speech. Alleged fear of violence is being used as the excuse. Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked.

Conservatives, (both rational and radical), are being denied access to public speaking events. Recently, the University of California at Berkeley canceled conservative commentator Ann Coulter’s April 27 speech, amid threats of violence. In February, UC Berkeley also canceled a campus event featuring conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, after protesters threw rocks, broke windows, and set fires outside the school’s student union building to protest his appearance.

Some liberals have openly lent support to this speech stifling. Richard Cohen of Southern Poverty Law Center said that students and universities “should not give racists an audience.” That within the context of his definition of “racists”.

In other eyebrow raising events, Michael Savage has been banned from an entire, very liberal country (England). And in San Francisco, the pro-Trump group Patriot Prayer canceled the “Freedom Rally,” they had planned, due to excpected violence from counterprotesters, and a likely lack of police protection (FOR THEM). Organizers of the “Freedom Rally,” blamed the cancellation of their event on public officials, who they say have falsely portrayed them as violent right-wing extremists intent on bringing hate to San Francisco. Speaking with reporters Saturday afternoon, Joey Gibson, founder of Patriot Prayer, also blamed “antifa,” referring to anti-fascist groups, and BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary, a left-wing group. He said the groups followed them throughout the day and kept them from holding events.

But is it really violence that these pious politicians are worried about ? Or is it the truth they fear ? >> …..and that conservatives could deprogram millions of brainwashed and wrongheaded people ?

There is really no reason to fear violence in the street, on college campuses, or anywhere else. Whatever troublemaker loons begin to cause can be controlled and stopped quickly and effectively, by police, private security, state police, and National Guard if necessary. At worst, federal troops can stop civil disturbances, but rarely would that be necessary.

The only reason violence has been occurring in US streets (Chicago, San Jose, Ferguson, Baltimore, New York, Charlottesville) is because Democrat mayors have been stopping their police from taking action . As in these cities, in Tampa, FL, protestors blocked traffic in a downtown street for about 2 hours. Police made no arrests. Took no action. Why ? Democrat mayor in political sympathy with the traffic blockers (AKA “terrorists”), could be the only reason. No way, this was the decision of police, on their own. It is politics gone wild (and crazy) that is responsible for violence BEING PERMITTED, and coming from mayors’ offices.

Simple solution ? Don’t permit violence. Crack down on it, and hard. When the leftist, anarchist nuts know they will be arrested, and cannot stop free speech of conservatives (or anyone), their whole regimen will cease.

They only show up and cause violence (in cities with Democrat mayors) when they know that mayor will have police stand down, and allow them to block traffic, attack protesters, vandalize monuments or other public items, shout down speakers, etc.

Threat of violence ? Bull! Don’t you believe that. That is a red herring. Violence can easily be stopped (or prevented entirely) as long as there is a WILL to stop it. America’s problem right now is rogue mayors who allow it, by handcuffing their own police, and occasionally Democrat governors (ex. Jay Nixon - Missouri), who called out the National Guard, in response to the Ferguson rioting, and then moved them far away from the violence/rioting.

Pro-Trump group cancels San Francisco rally as hundreds of counterprotesters march on the streets

College students testify: Free speech under assault on campuses

yep it seems the reward goes to the violent antifa's how white of them. That only promotes violence btw. The way to remove the violence is to let the cops do their jobs and take these whackamoles out. You'll see that stop immediately. It's the equivalent of saying taking guns out of the hands of innocent people to allow the villain access and commit violence. It is only the stupid of the left. amazing.

ANTIFA are violent anarchists, they don't represent liberals democrats conservatives or republicans.

Why do they only protest republicans? Sorry, but you aren't going to convince people that what they see with their own eyes isn't true.

You guys own ANTIFA now.

sorta like you own Nazis now, right?

Uh no.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Colleges that use the transparent "but there will be violence" excuse to shut down opposing speech are, in fact, indicting Regressives who won't be able to control themselves.

Why don't the Regressives ever point out that obvious fact?

Why don't we see them demanding better from each other, why don't we see them supporting free expression from those who disagree?

Hmm! I wonder!
.

They can't handle free expression nor tolerate the truth. They have to be counseled and led around by the nose. This is who they are.

 

[Mac1958]

Colleges that use the transparent "but there will be violence" excuse to shut down opposing speech are, in fact, indicting Regressives who won't be able to control themselves. Why don't the Regressives ever point out that obvious fact? Why don't we see them demanding better from each other, why don't we see them supporting free expression from those who disagree? Hmm! I wonder!

They can't handle free expression nor tolerate the truth. They have to be counseled and led around by the nose. This is who they are.

Illiberal authoritarian leftists are like that.
.

 

[iceberg]

as said from someone who obviously has zero biases *against* trump...

I'm not biased against Trump based on his color, ethnicity or wealth. I find his tweets to be stupid and divisive, his policies erratic, his arrogance intolerable and his character to be seriously flawed.

well as long as you are not biased.

Disliking somebody for their actions is different than disliking them for their skin color, appearance, gender, religion or sexual orientation.... You gotta know that

Of course.

But when someone tunnel visions to pure hate, what is the difference in the end? A better reason to hate is still hate.

I'm a pretty strong objector to Trump I think he is an embarrassment to the office but I don't hate the guy. I was actually a fan of his before he ran and showed how much of a douchebag he could be. I still laugh at pretty much everything he does as I find him completely transparent. Despite all that I think he could still do some great things if he ever learns to check his ego. I'm not holding my breath though

i think in many ways you and i agree.

he's an embarrassment to the office, yes. i thought the same of the obama apology parade and the constant bowing to everyone he could. i thought the same with clinton not able to just say "yep, we did it". nixon? wow he doubled down the embarrassment. funny part about him though is he just suggested using gov agencies to "spy" on each other and was out of office. obama did it and people said YEA!.

i can go back through time and find many embarrassing moments for presidents. to me, maybe to you (as we won't find the same things embarrassing i imagine) but many of those presidents still managed to do some good things while in office.

if trump accomplishes nothing else, he did put a halt on the progressive agenda. train wrecked that sucker into a non-existent mexico wall he did. all the anger to him isn't as much as his past history - but he ended their party and took things another way.

as presidents can and have done. each and every time they take office. we find ways to justify what used to be a crime these days and it's seriously confused our own countries moral compass and to correct that will take time, patience and a lot of pain.

unless you prefer the extreme left / progressive agenda then you just can't wait to get back in office and crank it up again. it's how it goes when new presidents come in and those who don't like it will counter as best they can. rules these days are simply gone and it's every person for their own identify politics.

so if nothing else trump does, he ends that, he's worth the 4 years in office, to me. i hate the "we're right you're wrong just because we're xyz" mentality and that's where we were headed. to me. but he also backed out of the global warming honeypot and i'm glad. from what i read it was a money grab and no real goals set by anyone. tell ya what, if i'm spending billions of dollars to fix something i'm going to have a plan with it, not just move money around and hope they follow through.

so i'm good there too.

sucker went out and worked with the democrats the other day. holy shit. do it again! and again and again and again. the republicans don't want to do shit so lets try the democrats to see if we can fix things and see if the republicans pull their head out and start working TOGETHER. then leadership by example we'll see it can be done and the animosity in the streets will subside.

gonna be a rough road out of where we put ourselves but hating each other for thinking differently isn't going to help. not *you* but the hate that exists on both sides. gonna be hard to put down but one by one i think people will begin to find their own reasons to do it.

but it will take leadership at the top and right now we have a bunch of geriatric children fucking things up.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Colleges that use the transparent "but there will be violence" excuse to shut down opposing speech are, in fact, indicting Regressives who won't be able to control themselves. Why don't the Regressives ever point out that obvious fact? Why don't we see them demanding better from each other, why don't we see them supporting free expression from those who disagree? Hmm! I wonder!

They can't handle free expression nor tolerate the truth. They have to be counseled and led around by the nose. This is who they are.

Illiberal authoritarian leftists are like that.
.

Which is what true fascism is. The irony of which they are running around in their gatherings claiming they are antifascist.

 

[Moonglow]

Colleges that use the transparent "but there will be violence" excuse to shut down opposing speech are, in fact, indicting Regressives who won't be able to control themselves. Why don't the Regressives ever point out that obvious fact? Why don't we see them demanding better from each other, why don't we see them supporting free expression from those who disagree? Hmm! I wonder!

They can't handle free expression nor tolerate the truth. They have to be counseled and led around by the nose. This is who they are.

Illiberal authoritarian leftists are like that.
.

A real liberal is not an authoritarian nor a member of ANTIFA..

 

[Mac1958]

A real liberal is not an authoritarian nor a member of ANTIFA..

Bingo, correct, and the people who have taken over college campuses and the Democratic Party are not real liberals.
.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Colleges that use the transparent "but there will be violence" excuse to shut down opposing speech are, in fact, indicting Regressives who won't be able to control themselves. Why don't the Regressives ever point out that obvious fact? Why don't we see them demanding better from each other, why don't we see them supporting free expression from those who disagree? Hmm! I wonder!

They can't handle free expression nor tolerate the truth. They have to be counseled and led around by the nose. This is who they are.

Illiberal authoritarian leftists are like that.
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A real liberal is not an authoritarian nor a member of ANTIFA..

I agree with that.

 

[Moonglow]

A real liberal is not an authoritarian nor a member of ANTIFA..

Bingo, correct, and the people who have taken over college campuses and the Democratic Party are not real liberals.
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Which is why I turned my back on them during Clinton..

 

[jc456]

Colleges that use the transparent "but there will be violence" excuse to shut down opposing speech are, in fact, indicting Regressives who won't be able to control themselves. Why don't the Regressives ever point out that obvious fact? Why don't we see them demanding better from each other, why don't we see them supporting free expression from those who disagree? Hmm! I wonder!

They can't handle free expression nor tolerate the truth. They have to be counseled and led around by the nose. This is who they are.

Illiberal authoritarian leftists are like that.
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A real liberal is not an authoritarian nor a member of ANTIFA..

why do they back them then?