Attention People who leap to judgments very quickly - The Palisades blaze? Visual evidence points to a recent fire nearby

[TemplarKormac]

Your partisan nitwitticisms are juvenile.

Hmm, responding to puerility with puerility.

Dare I say, your obfuscatory attitudes on this disaster are appalling. You aren't being serious.

 

[Dante]

Fascinating.

Not confusing oneself with an online persona ... few can keep it up. I've seen far too many of you get all tangled up in a web

 

[TemplarKormac]

Too bad.

could have clued you in: "This member limits who may view their full profile."

bye

Why would I be interested in your profile?

Your behavior right now is what I'm interested in.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Not confusing oneself with an online persona ... few can keep it up. I've seen far too many of you get all tangled up in a web

Hmm, now you're the one projecting.

Equally fascinating.

 

[Dante]

Hmm, responding to puerility with puerility.

Dare I say, your obfuscatory attitudes on this disaster are appalling. You aren't being serious.

I am living with it. I have been to every area of the Palisades, Brentwood, Mandeville Canyon...meeting people making acquaintances...

stop with the bs

 

[Dante]

Why would I be interested in your profile?

Your behavior right now is what I'm interested in.

I'll turn my camera on

not really

I never hitch a tower up to one

 

[TemplarKormac]

I am living with it. I have been to every area of the Palisades, Brentwood, Mandeville Canyon...meeting people making acquaintances...

stop with the bs

You are huh?

And you're still defending the incompetence that led to the destruction of the Palisades?

Dare I ask, did you vote for this? If you did you brought this on yourself.

 

[scruffy]

I am living with it. I have been to every area of the Palisades, Brentwood, Mandeville Canyon...meeting people making acquaintances...

No you haven't.

You've been posting nonstop on a message board.

Another Dante thread fizzles in a pack of lies.

Too bad you don't care more. You seem reasonably intelligent, you could make a difference if you wanted to.

But instead you're just another lying leftard echoing the hollow lies of you-don't-even-know-who.

 

[TemplarKormac]

And Dante runs away in the face of superior arguments.

My work here is done.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You seem reasonably intelligent, you could make a difference if you wanted to.

If he were intelligent, he wouldn't be supporting the people who failed to contain this disaster.

 

[Dante]

If he were intelligent, he wouldn't be supporting the people who failed to contain this disaster.

Firefighters are attempting to contain the disasters.

stop being an ignorant troll


bye bye

 

[TemplarKormac]

Firefighters are attempting to contain the disasters.

stop being an ignorant troll


bye bye

Not until 20,000 acres of the Palisades were gone.

A reservoir designed for this very thing was built but never filled.

Too little, too late.

 

[MisterBeale]

There is a difference between "contributing" to an outcome versus "reason" for the outcome.

If a change in the climate, whether naturally occurring or contributed by man helped to create an unusually rare set of conditions in combination - lack of rain which made the areas that burned much drier than then normally would have been, in addition to the lack of rain resulting in less water available for fire fighting, on top of those 80 to 100 mph Santa Ana winds - then why would you take exception to that belief and suspect others of having an agenda?

 

[luiza]

Watch Out -- Something Smells
OP publishes same Topic twice -identical intro.
Same as when you spread misinfo and disinformation .

The journal PLoS One is a Pay to Publish journal ---- beep , beep, Red Flag

Editor: Gal Harpaz, The Open University of Israel, ISRAEL

Well , well . There's a surprise

The study tells us that Deniers and the Cognitively Rigid are more open to persuasion than had been previously thought

Well , well , there's another surprise .

Hey .What's that smell ?

 

[luiza]

TRY THIS FOR INTEl ,instead of the OP drivel Deep Seek’s roots are with High Flyer, a Chinese hedge fund trading on distressed asset arbitrage and exfiltration based on the same business model as Renaissance Capital. High Flyer’s model is not too different from the Al Capone Chicago Mob business model - burn down the competitors, then buy the ruins for pennies on the dollar, then put a new Capone saloon there, The only apparent change here is that Renaissance Capital has changed its business partners from Russians to Chinese business partners. Having a Chinese hedge fund running a fire simulation and now live exercise in Southern California is an obvious moral hazard. What do Chinese day traders care if Pacific Palisades burns? High Flyer will buy the real estate companies that Gavin Newsom, Nancy Pelosi, and John Brennan tell them to buy, and everyone will make a rapacious profit. Repeat of Post 89

 

[Harry Dresden]

You were born here? Where? When did you leave? Like when you were three years old?

ow long have you been here dante?....

 

[Dante]

Second-guessers like Elon Musk: Could better brush clearance have helped slow the spread of the Palisades fire

“We knew the winds were coming. We knew that there was brush that needed to be cleared 20 years ago,” Rick Caruso, the developer and former Los Angeles mayoral candidate, told The Times. “This fire could have been mitigated — maybe not prevented.”​

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Elon Musk wrote on X that the “biggest factor, in my opinion, is that crazy environmental regulations prevent building firebreaks and clearing brush near houses.” And actress-producer Sara Foster chimed in with an X post saying “our vegetation was overgrown, brush not cleared.”​

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Dear experts-on-everything, what did real experts who are strong proponents of brush clearance have to say?

Did these and other second-guessers have a point? Scientists, wildfire specialists and firefighting officials had differing viewpoints. But several of these experts — including strong proponents of brush clearance — said that the winds fanning the flames were so fierce, and ground conditions so dry, that clearing more shrubs wouldn’t have had a significant effect.​

Could better brush clearance have helped slow the spread of the Palisades fire?

As the Palisades fire raged, critics blamed overgrown vegetation for driving its spread. But some scientists and fire officials say removing it may not have made much of a difference, and also risks making the landscape more flammable in the long run.

www.latimes.com

“All of the brush clearance, fuel breaks — they’re very effective on what we would consider a normal day,” said Chief Brian Fennessy of the Orange County Fire Authority. “But what you’re talking about here is probably less than 1% of all the fires that we respond to in Southern California.”​

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The Palisades fire ignited Jan. 7 amid hurricane-force winds, with gusts of up to 100 mph recorded in some areas.​

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“You could have put a 10-lane freeway in front of that fire and it would not have slowed it one bit,” Fennessy said.​

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Vegetation management efforts are typically most effective when firefighters are able to take advantage of the reduced fire intensity they provide to snuff out flames.​

We are here - back again -- Because facts matter. Think of it as a public service.​

There exist sources of information that are available to all of us. Some are credible, some are not, and some are incomplete. People are not always aware of how what they choose to absorb and later distribute isn't always credible, factual - truth.​

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"According to a study published Wednesday (October 9, 2024), in the journal Plos One, it comes down to believing you have all the information you need to form an opinion, even when you don’t."​

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quote: “People are more open-minded and willing to change their opinions than we assume,” *Fletcher said. However, “this same flexibility doesn’t apply to long-held differences, such as political beliefs.” .​

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“Our brains are overconfident that they can arrive at a reasonable conclusion with very little information,” said Angus Fletcher, a professor of English at Ohio State University, who co-wrote the study.​

What caused the Palisades blaze? Visual evidence points to a recent fire nearby​

Did New Year’s Eve fireworks start the largest Los Angeles fire?

Today at 12:31 p.m. EST
PACIFIC PALISADES, CALIFORNIA—About 30 minutes after the Palisades Fire started on Tuesday, the firefighters’ radio crackled: The flames were coming from a familiar sliver of a mountain ridge.

“The foot of the fire started real close to where the last fire was on New Year’s Eve,” said a Los Angeles County firefighter, according to a Washington Post review of archived radio transmissions.

“It looks like it’s going to make a good run,” one chimed into the dispatch.

The Post’s analysis of photos, videos, satellite imagery and radio communications, as well as interviews with witnesses, offers new evidence that the Palisades Fire started in the area where firefighters had spent hours using helicopters to knock down a blaze six days earlier.

Investigators from state and federal agencies descended on this area in recent days, interviewing residents and looking for evidence — including around the burn scar of the New Year’s Eve fire — of what sparked the blaze.

The Post’s analysis showed that the new fire started in the vicinity of the old fire, raising the possibility that the New Year’s Eve fire was reignited, which can occur in windy conditions, experts said.

Residents also told The Post and investigators on scene that firefighters’ response on Tuesday was much slower than on New Year’s Eve — a view confirmed by radio transmissions.

bump

 

[sparky]

~S~

 

[Dante]

We are here - back again -- Because facts matter. Think of it as a public service.​

There exist sources of information that are available to all of us. Some are credible, some are not, and some are incomplete. People are not always aware of how what they choose to absorb and later distribute isn't always credible, factual - truth.​

​

"According to a study published Wednesday (October 9, 2024), in the journal Plos One, it comes down to believing you have all the information you need to form an opinion, even when you don’t."​

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quote: “People are more open-minded and willing to change their opinions than we assume,” *Fletcher said. However, “this same flexibility doesn’t apply to long-held differences, such as political beliefs.” .​

​

“Our brains are overconfident that they can arrive at a reasonable conclusion with very little information,” said Angus Fletcher, a professor of English at Ohio State University, who co-wrote the study.​

What caused the Palisades blaze? Visual evidence points to a recent fire nearby​

Did New Year’s Eve fireworks start the largest Los Angeles fire?

Today at 12:31 p.m. EST
PACIFIC PALISADES, CALIFORNIA—About 30 minutes after the Palisades Fire started on Tuesday, the firefighters’ radio crackled: The flames were coming from a familiar sliver of a mountain ridge.

“The foot of the fire started real close to where the last fire was on New Year’s Eve,” said a Los Angeles County firefighter, according to a Washington Post review of archived radio transmissions.

“It looks like it’s going to make a good run,” one chimed into the dispatch.

The Post’s analysis of photos, videos, satellite imagery and radio communications, as well as interviews with witnesses, offers new evidence that the Palisades Fire started in the area where firefighters had spent hours using helicopters to knock down a blaze six days earlier.

Investigators from state and federal agencies descended on this area in recent days, interviewing residents and looking for evidence — including around the burn scar of the New Year’s Eve fire — of what sparked the blaze.

The Post’s analysis showed that the new fire started in the vicinity of the old fire, raising the possibility that the New Year’s Eve fire was reignited, which can occur in windy conditions, experts said.

Residents also told The Post and investigators on scene that firefighters’ response on Tuesday was much slower than on New Year’s Eve — a view confirmed by radio transmissions.

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please... Threads with little to no content except hysterical headline news Maybe even HEADLINE ALMOST NEWS can be a subforum

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