Atheists want multiple universes and extra-terrestrial civilizations to exist because they think it will hurt Christianity

[GLASNOST]

I was pretty good in algebra and I know there have to be enough "knowns" in the equation in order to calculate the unknown(s). There is an insufficient number of knowns in order to make a single logical conviction on the meaning of life. We humans rely upon our own concoction of communal living (that we call "morals") but we cannot even agree on what those are ... or should be. Saying ridiculous things such as, "If God wanted us to *** he would have given us a **" is just as silly as saying "If the moon were square we wouldn't eat cheese".

Is this your belief? ...

What a strange question.

Christians believe the only factor in the meaning of life is love ... "God is Love" ... everything else is just dross and chaff that the wind blowth away ...

Now I know you're joking.

 

[ReinyDays]

Christians believe the only factor in the meaning of life is love ... "God is Love" ... everything else is just dross and chaff that the wind blowth away ...

Now I know you're joking.

You've already stated you're not a Christian ... if you think Christianity is a joke, then you're an atheist ... against monotheism ... just pointing out things you do believe in whether you admit it or not ... much in science must be believed trusting these matters can be explained ... in religion, no explanation can be expected ...

 

[Grumblenuts]

..... "Belief = religion". OK, but .....
A religious person believes in God (for example). "Belief = religion"
An Atheist believes there is no God. "Belief = religion"
An agnostic doesn't believe in anything. No belief, no religion.

Sigh.
Per Google:
atheist - "a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods."
agnostic - "a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God."
Per logic:
An agnostic is simply an atheist lacking the balls to admit they're an atheist.

I'll see your "sigh" and raise you five.

1). You have quoted a passage that you do not understand and ...
2). You quoted another one that is meant to be a joke but you have no sense of humour.

I love you too, dear.

 

[itfitzme]

But belief in these theories are more wishful thinking than reality.

The concept that there are an infinite number of parallel universes is poppycock. Even if true, there will never be a way to prove it.

If extra-terrestrial civilizations existed, we'd know it by now. We've been listening for their radio signals for decades and in all that time we've heard squat.

The reality is that atheist scientists have pushed belief in these notions because they hate Christianity and want to undermine people's faith in religion.

So, let me see if I understand this. The Atheist Scientists are conspiring to force the idea of parallel universes and extra-terrestrial life in an effort to undermine Christianity. (because they just hate Christians. No particular reason, just cuz they hate them. )

 

[esalla]

But belief in these theories are more wishful thinking than reality.

The concept that there are an infinite number of parallel universes is poppycock. Even if true, there will never be a way to prove it.

If extra-terrestrial civilizations existed, we'd know it by now. We've been listening for their radio signals for decades and in all that time we've heard squat.

The reality is that atheist scientists have pushed belief in these notions because they hate Christianity and want to undermine people's faith in religion.

Atheist do not want ET because God was clearly not from Earth

So rethink your argument

 

[danielpalos]

The hypothesis of a multi verse is valid. It is true that it may never be proven but that does not refute it.

No one has to refute anything. It's up to the claimer to show his claim.

xtra terretrials are very nearly a foregone conclusion. It is a near certianty that they exist. Just because we have been listening for decades is irrelevant. Radio signlas travel at the speed of light but the universe or for that matter the local area of the galaxy is so large that our own signals have only barely reached a few other star systems. For all we know an intelligent extraterrestrial species could have begun broadcasting centuries ago but be thousands of light years away which would mean we have many more thousands of years before their signals can reach us. If one is only 100 light years away and began trasmitting radio signals 50 years ago we wont be able to know it for another fifty years.

These are claims and nothing backs it up. Instead, we found scientific theories that show aliens didn't happen.

For that matter extraterrestrials does not necessarily mean INTELLIGENT extraterrestrials. It is a high probability that something alive is swimming on worlds near by such as europa. It may only be a microbe but the environment is ripe for it.

Not all scientists are atheist and almost none of them hate christianity. They almost all agree in the probability of life on other worlds because is IS an overwhelming probability.

This means abiogenesis happens and there have been no evidence of that happening. The reality is there has been no abiogenesis in our solar system unless there are microbial life below the surface of Mars or on Europa moon.

The Miller-Urey experiment proved abiogenesis happens and engenders (micro) evolution.

 

[esalla]

The hypothesis of a multi verse is valid. It is true that it may never be proven but that does not refute it.

No one has to refute anything. It's up to the claimer to show his claim.

xtra terretrials are very nearly a foregone conclusion. It is a near certianty that they exist. Just because we have been listening for decades is irrelevant. Radio signlas travel at the speed of light but the universe or for that matter the local area of the galaxy is so large that our own signals have only barely reached a few other star systems. For all we know an intelligent extraterrestrial species could have begun broadcasting centuries ago but be thousands of light years away which would mean we have many more thousands of years before their signals can reach us. If one is only 100 light years away and began trasmitting radio signals 50 years ago we wont be able to know it for another fifty years.

These are claims and nothing backs it up. Instead, we found scientific theories that show aliens didn't happen.

For that matter extraterrestrials does not necessarily mean INTELLIGENT extraterrestrials. It is a high probability that something alive is swimming on worlds near by such as europa. It may only be a microbe but the environment is ripe for it.

Not all scientists are atheist and almost none of them hate christianity. They almost all agree in the probability of life on other worlds because is IS an overwhelming probability.

This means abiogenesis happens and there have been no evidence of that happening. The reality is there has been no abiogenesis in our solar system unless there are microbial life below the surface of Mars or on Europa moon.

The Miller-Urey experiment proved abiogenesis happens and engenders (micro) evolution.

The Miller-Urey experiment proved or disproved nothing as abiogenesis was not demonstrated.

If I am wrong you can name the organism that these turds created

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Delusions

 

[danielpalos]

The hypothesis of a multi verse is valid. It is true that it may never be proven but that does not refute it.

No one has to refute anything. It's up to the claimer to show his claim.

xtra terretrials are very nearly a foregone conclusion. It is a near certianty that they exist. Just because we have been listening for decades is irrelevant. Radio signlas travel at the speed of light but the universe or for that matter the local area of the galaxy is so large that our own signals have only barely reached a few other star systems. For all we know an intelligent extraterrestrial species could have begun broadcasting centuries ago but be thousands of light years away which would mean we have many more thousands of years before their signals can reach us. If one is only 100 light years away and began trasmitting radio signals 50 years ago we wont be able to know it for another fifty years.

These are claims and nothing backs it up. Instead, we found scientific theories that show aliens didn't happen.

For that matter extraterrestrials does not necessarily mean INTELLIGENT extraterrestrials. It is a high probability that something alive is swimming on worlds near by such as europa. It may only be a microbe but the environment is ripe for it.

Not all scientists are atheist and almost none of them hate christianity. They almost all agree in the probability of life on other worlds because is IS an overwhelming probability.

This means abiogenesis happens and there have been no evidence of that happening. The reality is there has been no abiogenesis in our solar system unless there are microbial life below the surface of Mars or on Europa moon.

The Miller-Urey experiment proved abiogenesis happens and engenders (micro) evolution.

The Miller-Urey experiment proved or disproved nothing as abiogenesis was not demonstrated.

If I am wrong you can name the organism that these turds created

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Delusions

It did show a potential (possibility frontier) for abiogenesis and micro-evolution. Your view would take millions if not billions of years after that.

 

[james bond]

There are no theories that aliens did not happen.

First, we define aliens as intelligent aliens. We're not discussing just outer space abiogenesis. We have Drake's Equation, Fermi's Paradox, The Great Filter, and other arguments against it. The fine tuning facts prevent abiogenesis, so it becomes a big reason for no aliens.

Furthermore, the Bible does not state God created aliens nor Jesus died to save aliens. The hard evidence is none has been found despite SETI, optical SETI, Alien Telescope Array, space explorations and fly bys with probes and powerful telescopes. There are other methods of contact which have been explored, but still nothing.

The atheist scientists such a Neil deGrasse Tyson and Stephen Hawking still think they exist, but no evidence for them. Hawking has died not knowing aliens exist like Carl Sagan. deGrasse Tyson will die without knowing, too, and he says sometimes it keeps him up at night thinking about how science can help find them. Other top scientists who believed in the possibility of aliens and have died without knowing are Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla, and Richard Feynman.

The fact that we are here proves abiogenesis happens

It also proves God is the creator. More evidence for God than abiogenesis or aliens because we found a book that explains step-by-step how it happened. Atheists still have vast universe and top scientists who believe in it, but they have all died without ever knowing aliens or abiogenesis. Creation scientists and I believe the vast universe demonstrates the beauty, complexity, and glory of God instead.

 

[Soupnazi630]

There are no theories that aliens did not happen.

First, we define aliens as intelligent aliens. We're not discussing just outer space abiogenesis. We have Drake's Equation, Fermi's Paradox, The Great Filter, and other arguments against it. The fine tuning facts prevent abiogenesis, so it becomes a big reason for no aliens.

Furthermore, the Bible does not state God created aliens nor Jesus died to save aliens. The hard evidence is none has been found despite SETI, optical SETI, Alien Telescope Array, space explorations and fly bys with probes and powerful telescopes. There are other methods of contact which have been explored, but still nothing.

The atheist scientists such a Neil deGrasse Tyson and Stephen Hawking still think they exist, but no evidence for them. Hawking has died not knowing aliens exist like Carl Sagan. deGrasse Tyson will die without knowing, too, and he says sometimes it keeps him up at night thinking about how science can help find them. Other top scientists who believed in the possibility of aliens and have died without knowing are Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla, and Richard Feynman.

The fact that we are here proves abiogenesis happens

It also proves God is the creator. More evidence for God than abiogenesis or aliens because we found a book that explains step-by-step how it happened. Atheists still have vast universe and top scientists who believe in it, but they have all died without ever knowing aliens or abiogenesis. Creation scientists and I believe the vast universe demonstrates the beauty, complexity, and glory of God instead.

We do not define it that way in fact. Extraterrestrials can mean any form of life.

There are arguments against it but the odds remain unchanged and in fact the odds are overwhelming that life exists elsewhere.

There are NO facts, fine tuning or otherwise, which prevent abiogenesis. Not having found hard evidence yet means nothing since wer have only barely begun to look for them. Declaring that aliens perobablty do not exist at this point is akin to taking a plane to cairo, walking around the airport for an hour, then comin back and saying that there are no elephants in Africa because you checked and saw none.

The odds still stand that there is probably life and nothing about abiogensis refutes that.

Nothing whatsoeevr proves god exists or is the creator. Such beliefs are strictly based on blind faith with no evidence of any kind.

 

[james bond]

It did show a potential (possibility frontier) for abiogenesis and micro-evolution. Your view would take millions if not billions of years after that.

Urey-Miller tried to show abiogenesis experimentally, but failed. There hasn't been any new experiments like it because of the discovery of chirality and the water conditions preclude it from happening.

 

[danielpalos]

There are no theories that aliens did not happen.

First, we define aliens as intelligent aliens. We're not discussing just outer space abiogenesis. We have Drake's Equation, Fermi's Paradox, The Great Filter, and other arguments against it. The fine tuning facts prevent abiogenesis, so it becomes a big reason for no aliens.

Furthermore, the Bible does not state God created aliens nor Jesus died to save aliens. The hard evidence is none has been found despite SETI, optical SETI, Alien Telescope Array, space explorations and fly bys with probes and powerful telescopes. There are other methods of contact which have been explored, but still nothing.

The atheist scientists such a Neil deGrasse Tyson and Stephen Hawking still think they exist, but no evidence for them. Hawking has died not knowing aliens exist like Carl Sagan. deGrasse Tyson will die without knowing, too, and he says sometimes it keeps him up at night thinking about how science can help find them. Other top scientists who believed in the possibility of aliens and have died without knowing are Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla, and Richard Feynman.

The fact that we are here proves abiogenesis happens

It also proves God is the creator. More evidence for God than abiogenesis or aliens because we found a book that explains step-by-step how it happened. Atheists still have vast universe and top scientists who believe in it, but they have all died without ever knowing aliens or abiogenesis. Creation scientists and I believe the vast universe demonstrates the beauty, complexity, and glory of God instead.

It happened at least once in our galaxy; there are tens of thousands of galaxies in the emptiest part of known space as shown by the Hubble deep field study.

 

[danielpalos]

It did show a potential (possibility frontier) for abiogenesis and micro-evolution. Your view would take millions if not billions of years after that.

Urey-Miller tried to show abiogenesis experimentally, but failed. There hasn't been any new experiments like it because of the discovery of chirality and the water conditions preclude it from happening.

Amino acids are the "building blocks of life' and that potential possibility frontier. The odds are simply in our favor as the Hubble deep field study showed.

 

[Soupnazi630]

It did show a potential (possibility frontier) for abiogenesis and micro-evolution. Your view would take millions if not billions of years after that.

Urey-Miller tried to show abiogenesis experimentally, but failed. There hasn't been any new experiments like it because of the discovery of chirality and the water conditions preclude it from happening.

No, chirality and water conditions do not preclude it from happening.

 

[sealybobo]

But belief in these theories are more wishful thinking than reality.

The concept that there are an infinite number of parallel universes is poppycock. Even if true, there will never be a way to prove it.

If extra-terrestrial civilizations existed, we'd know it by now. We've been listening for their radio signals for decades and in all that time we've heard squat.

The reality is that atheist scientists have pushed belief in these notions because they hate Christianity and want to undermine people's faith in religion.

Maybe. But I think even scientists who don’t hate Christianity are open to the possibility of multiple universes or even creatures on other planets.
We don’t believe in multiple universes. We are just open to the idea. No god sent his only begotten son Neal degrass Tyson to tell us about other universes you go to when you die if you just believe in them

 

[esalla]

The hypothesis of a multi verse is valid. It is true that it may never be proven but that does not refute it.

No one has to refute anything. It's up to the claimer to show his claim.

xtra terretrials are very nearly a foregone conclusion. It is a near certianty that they exist. Just because we have been listening for decades is irrelevant. Radio signlas travel at the speed of light but the universe or for that matter the local area of the galaxy is so large that our own signals have only barely reached a few other star systems. For all we know an intelligent extraterrestrial species could have begun broadcasting centuries ago but be thousands of light years away which would mean we have many more thousands of years before their signals can reach us. If one is only 100 light years away and began trasmitting radio signals 50 years ago we wont be able to know it for another fifty years.

These are claims and nothing backs it up. Instead, we found scientific theories that show aliens didn't happen.

For that matter extraterrestrials does not necessarily mean INTELLIGENT extraterrestrials. It is a high probability that something alive is swimming on worlds near by such as europa. It may only be a microbe but the environment is ripe for it.

Not all scientists are atheist and almost none of them hate christianity. They almost all agree in the probability of life on other worlds because is IS an overwhelming probability.

This means abiogenesis happens and there have been no evidence of that happening. The reality is there has been no abiogenesis in our solar system unless there are microbial life below the surface of Mars or on Europa moon.

The Miller-Urey experiment proved abiogenesis happens and engenders (micro) evolution.

The Miller-Urey experiment proved or disproved nothing as abiogenesis was not demonstrated.

If I am wrong you can name the organism that these turds created

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Delusions

It did show a potential (possibility frontier) for abiogenesis and micro-evolution. Your view would take millions if not billions of years after that.

The experiment was a failure as life is not chemistry. Life is chemistry created by molecular programming that can not happen if you shake a bubble. It would take a trillion years for one part of a gene to form and that one part would just vanish not begin growing, replicating and evolving because there is no programming. LOL take your hard drive out of your computer and try to do something with the computer

 

[james bond]

There are no theories that aliens did not happen.

First, we define aliens as intelligent aliens. We're not discussing just outer space abiogenesis. We have Drake's Equation, Fermi's Paradox, The Great Filter, and other arguments against it. The fine tuning facts prevent abiogenesis, so it becomes a big reason for no aliens.

Furthermore, the Bible does not state God created aliens nor Jesus died to save aliens. The hard evidence is none has been found despite SETI, optical SETI, Alien Telescope Array, space explorations and fly bys with probes and powerful telescopes. There are other methods of contact which have been explored, but still nothing.

The atheist scientists such a Neil deGrasse Tyson and Stephen Hawking still think they exist, but no evidence for them. Hawking has died not knowing aliens exist like Carl Sagan. deGrasse Tyson will die without knowing, too, and he says sometimes it keeps him up at night thinking about how science can help find them. Other top scientists who believed in the possibility of aliens and have died without knowing are Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla, and Richard Feynman.

The fact that we are here proves abiogenesis happens

It also proves God is the creator. More evidence for God than abiogenesis or aliens because we found a book that explains step-by-step how it happened. Atheists still have vast universe and top scientists who believe in it, but they have all died without ever knowing aliens or abiogenesis. Creation scientists and I believe the vast universe demonstrates the beauty, complexity, and glory of God instead.

We do not define it that way in fact. Extraterrestrials can mean any form of life.

There are arguments against it but the odds remain unchanged and in fact the odds are overwhelming that life exists elsewhere.

There are NO facts, fine tuning or otherwise, which prevent abiogenesis. Not having found hard evidence yet means nothing since wer have only barely begun to look for them. Declaring that aliens perobablty do not exist at this point is akin to taking a plane to cairo, walking around the airport for an hour, then comin back and saying that there are no elephants in Africa because you checked and saw none.

The odds still stand that there is probably life and nothing about abiogensis refutes that.

Nothing whatsoeevr proves god exists or is the creator. Such beliefs are strictly based on blind faith with no evidence of any kind.

I see denial in your post and this is true of many atheist scientists at NASA. I'm going by what atheist scientists believed that we would find intelligent life elsewhere. Since they haven't even with all their looking, now they are going for finding microbial life or history of it on Mars. I think they also plan to visit Europa with probes and rovers before 2030.

I think creation scientists would be for space exploration, too, because not all think the Bible states God didn't create aliens nor Jesus didn't die for all of God's creations. We could do it in order to find another planet to live on or use for further space explorations. Some may have attempted a Urey-Miller experiment, too. It wouldn't hurt to find a cause or find this could not have happened by itself. The big bang isn't a deal breaker and is further studied.

The two big issues against abiogenesis is that proteins can't just form from loose amino acids. The second is something would have to guide it to form from proteins into human life. We can't just have man and woman without sexual development and that is only possible through an intelligence doing the work of putting these proteins together. It's why Intelligent Design proponents agree with those two truisms of science.

I think you are just spouting your atheist wishes now.

 

[james bond]

It happened at least once in our galaxy; there are tens of thousands of galaxies in the emptiest part of known space as shown by the Hubble deep field study.

It happened on Earth, but we disagree on the cause. The Earth is a special place by the Anthropic Principle. That eliminates practically most, if not all, of the other galaxies based on probabilities.

 

[james bond]

No, chirality and water conditions do not preclude it from happening.

Where is your evidence? It sounds like more denial due to your religious beliefs.

 

[james bond]

Amino acids are the "building blocks of life' and that potential possibility frontier.

The building blocks of life are proteins. Amino acids are just the particles that form proteins, but it can't just happen randomly.