Zone1 A question for the USMB left.

[Orangecat]

You cannot be pro choice on abortion unless you state right here and now that Roe vs Wade should have not been overturned and no government ever has a right to invade the privacy of a woman when she is pregnant in order to tell her what she can and cannot do about it

Your logic sucks, kid.
I have no problem with women killing their unborn offspring. I also have no problem with states deciding on whether or not it’s legal. The Constitution says nothing regarding abortion, so RvW should’ve been overturned to allow individual states decide, per 10A. That is my position on abortion.

 

[forkup]

Fact of the matter is, I’m pro-choice and have no qualms about stating so. You can continue to try your “gotcha” crap, but you are wrong.

I'm not the one who challenged a person to support an assertion by asking for a direct quote, with the caveat that being unable would brand them a liar. You did.

If you don't like "gotcha crap", maybe don't try to do "gotchas" on people.


Anyway. You have provided me some entertainment today.

 

[Orangecat]

I'm not the one who challenged a person to support an assertion by asking for a direct quote, with the caveat that being unable would brand them a liar. You did.
If you don't like "gotcha crap", maybe don't try to do "gotchas" on people.
Anyway. You have provided me some entertainment today.

I’m pro-choice.
Get a life, kid.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

I’m pro-choice and have no qualms about stating so

Your posts on record here say you are for states to have the choice to ban abortion as they see fit. That leaves women in anti-choice states with no choice.

 

[beagle9]

Let's start with the fact that I'm not aware of a method of birth control beyond a vasectomy and abstinence that's a hundred percent effective.

As to your first paragraph. It's not a false equivalency. Simply because something has the possibility of occuring doesn't mean you consent to that thing happening and neither does it mean you forfeit the right to make decisions to remedy that thing. Smoking can cause lung-cancer. Would that mean the government can institute a law barring people from getting treatment for that cancer?

I could just as easily argue that bearing a child carries a risk that kid might get sick enough to need an organ from the mother. It still wouldn't mean that mother has an obligation to donate.

More false equivalencies being spewed or made up by you in order to sooth your fake narratives.

 

[Orangecat]

Your posts on record here say you are for states to have the choice to ban abortion as they see fit. That leaves women in anti-choice states with no choice.

My personal views do not override the 10th Amendment. You seem to have a difficult time grasping that fact. I’m also against income taxes, but accept the fact that they are currently the law.

 

[Rumpole]

I have a sincere question for the lefties here.
Why do you so many of you label disagreement as “hate”?
Example:
“I believe marriage is a religious institution, between a man and a woman.”
Lefty answer: “Why do you hate gays?”
Or:
“”I’m against abortion.”
Lefty answer: “Why do you hate women?”

Is it an Alinsky thing, painting your adversaries as extremist haters?
Something else?

You really should do your homework. As a lefty, myself, I've been hearing right wingers say I hate America, military, patriotism, free enterprise, yadda yadda, for some 60 years, and if I could make a list of every incidence of a right winger saying that libs/left/dems hate this, or hate that, it would fill up a book. But, a cursory search brought up these, and it's just scratching the surface, so this 'hate' business, well, no one has a monopoly on that one, you just haven't looked. in my view, the opposite of your claim is more true than your claim.

Nov 1 2010. " we will punish our enemies!"

This was one of Obama's most popular messages during his campaigning. It worked like magic for him. Here he is right in the middle of that sentence on that day during a get out the vote campaign stop. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-explains-his-remark-about-punishing-enemies/

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Alphabet Folks Meltdown at Sight of American Flags

If you love America, you hate democrats. Marxists and their useful Idiots

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NPR Editor Suspended

Another attempt to stifle free speech. This is a trend in today's society. https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4596809-npr-editor-who-alleged-bias-suspended/

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Is Biden going Nazi?

Iran is the largest sponsor of state terrorism in the world. Tehran should be bombed to rubble. Death to islam. For some reason, he’s focusing his ire on the Jewish state - and just after Iran launched a terrorist attack. These libs have everything upside down.

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Popularity of Trans Surgery

Military Doctor: Transgender Surgery Uptick Paid for with US Tax Dollars "Did you know that the US Military is enthusiastically (and frequently) performing gender reassignment surgery on active-duty service members using your tax dollars? I received a tip from a doctor at a military hospital...

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[Orangecat]

You really should do your homework. As a lefty, myself, I've been hearing right wingers say I hate America, military, patriotism, free enterprise, yadda yadda, for some 60 years, and if I could make a list of every incidence of a right winger saying that libs/left/dems hate this, or hate that, it would fill up a book. But, a cursory search brought up these, and it's just scratching the surface, so this 'hate' business, well, no one has a monopoly on that one, you just haven't looked. in my view, the opposite of your claim is more true than your claim.

Nov 1 2010. " we will punish our enemies!"

This was one of Obama's most popular messages during his campaigning. It worked like magic for him. Here he is right in the middle of that sentence on that day during a get out the vote campaign stop. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-explains-his-remark-about-punishing-enemies/

www.usmessageboard.com

Alphabet Folks Meltdown at Sight of American Flags

If you love America, you hate democrats. Marxists and their useful Idiots

www.usmessageboard.com

NPR Editor Suspended

Another attempt to stifle free speech. This is a trend in today's society. https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4596809-npr-editor-who-alleged-bias-suspended/

www.usmessageboard.com

Is Biden going Nazi?

Iran is the largest sponsor of state terrorism in the world. Tehran should be bombed to rubble. Death to islam. For some reason, he’s focusing his ire on the Jewish state - and just after Iran launched a terrorist attack. These libs have everything upside down.

www.usmessageboard.com

Popularity of Trans Surgery

Military Doctor: Transgender Surgery Uptick Paid for with US Tax Dollars "Did you know that the US Military is enthusiastically (and frequently) performing gender reassignment surgery on active-duty service members using your tax dollars? I received a tip from a doctor at a military hospital...

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Did I say it was only lefties? No, I didn’t. In my experience, it’s predominantly lefties. And that is true. It may be the polar opposite for you. Start a thread on it.

 

[Rumpole]

Did I say it was only lefties? No, I didn’t. In my experience, it’s predominantly lefties. And that is true. It may be the polar opposite for you. Start a thread on it.

The vast majority of Democrats do not support blocking bridges are traffic, and, in fact, it is illegal. No dem i know supports illegal activity of any kind.

 

[Orangecat]

The vast majority of Democrats do not support blocking bridges are traffic, and, in fact, it is illegal. No dem i know supports illegal activity of any kind.

Not sure what your clumsy response has to do with the discussion at hand.
Try to stay on topic, please.

 

[Billo_Really]

I have a sincere question for the lefties here.
Why do you so many of you label disagreement as “hate”?
Example:
“I believe marriage is a religious institution, between a man and a woman.”
Lefty answer: “Why do you hate gays?”
Or:
“”I’m against abortion.”
Lefty answer: “Why do you hate women?”

Is it an Alinsky thing, painting your adversaries as extremist haters?
Something else?

Give me a fucking break! You got no room to talk. Especially when your dear leader is echoing the words of Adolph Hitler when he says people entering the country illegally are "vermin" and are "poisoning the fabric ofvthis countrt".

 

[Orangecat]

Give me a fucking break! You got no room to talk. Especially when your dear leader is echoing the words of Adolph Hitler when he says people entering the country illegally are "vermin" and are "poisoning the fabric ofvthis countrt".

^^^Triggered babbling.

 

[Billo_Really]

^^^Triggered babbling.

So what? It's disingenuous to blame the left for something Trump does in spades.

 

[beagle9]

Give me a fucking break! You got no room to talk. Especially when your dear leader is echoing the words of Adolph Hitler when he says people entering the country illegally are "vermin" and are "poisoning the fabric ofvthis countrt".

Focus on the word "illegally" dipstick, and then your post fails big time. Yes anyone allowing themselves to be used for political gains by another is a dipstick. Own it....

 

[beagle9]

So what? It's disingenuous to blame the left for something Trump does in spades.

Deflecting onto another is a leftist tactic 101. Found on page 38 of "Leftism the take over".

 

[Billo_Really]

Focus on the word "illegally" dipstick, and then your post fails big time. Yes anyone allowing themselves to be used for political gains by another is a dipstick. Own it....

WTF are you talking about? Are you saying people coming into the country ARE vermin? AND poisoning the blood of our country?

Is that what you are saying?

 

[Billo_Really]

Deflecting onto another is a leftist tactic 101. Found on page 38 of "Leftism the take over".

WTF are you talking about? The Left should take over! Republicans are fucked! The right is nuts! The only sane Americans left in this country are on the left.

 

[beagle9]

WTF are you talking about? Are you saying people coming into the country ARE vermin? AND poisoning the blood of our country?

Is that what you are saying?

I'm saying that you trying to justify people entering the country illegally without knowing who they are or what diseases they might be carrying, definitely puts you in the vermin category along with you poisoning the blood of our citizen's with disease because of your recklessness behaviors for political gain and supporting it for a political agenda. You are basically in the category of being a traitor to your country.

The illegals are being used by forces outside and inside this country.

 

[Orangecat]

So what? It's disingenuous to blame the left for something Trump does in spades.

You might want to look up the word “disingenuous” there, kiddo.

 

[Billo_Really]

You might want to look up the word “disingenuous” there, kiddo.

I know what that is and I also know a hypocrite when I see one. And that's exactly what a person is when they blame the left for one thing, then look the other way when Trump does the same thing.