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Do you ever wonder why school shootings,
Gives the mentally ill a ticket to fame in the age of the internet/mass media. That is why John Lennon was killed.

disrespect for authority (cops),
Nothing new here. We disrespected King George and fought a war. There has always been riots over various real and perceived grievances.

and the general cultural decay eats away at American society?
What cultural decay? What American era was less decayed than ours?
 
Your own verses you use show that the slave in question could only be a slave for about 7 years and then had a choice to make, do they want to stay or go free. Where else in the ancient world did slaves have these kinds of rights? No where that I know of. So, no, it is not the same as the typical slavery elsewhere, where slaves had no days of rest.

Admit it, it was the beginning of the reformation of a bad system, the very first on record.

It's like God giving Moses their first covenant. It was far from a perfect covenant as they had to sacrifice animals to cover their sin. Then came Christ with a better covenant, as he was the sacrifice for their sins. And even at that, Paul said this about the new covenant in 1 Corinthians 13 which was the love of Christ and his forgiveness of sin.

13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

4 Love suffereth long, and is kind; love envieth not; love vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8 Love never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.


13 And now abideth faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

God reveals himself little by little. Baby steps, but at the end of the day, Paul still felt in the dark about a great number of things as do I.

As for how slavery was covered in the NT, you are talking about slavery under Roman rule, which is a whole different ball game.

I suppose you feel that Paul should have told them all to take up arms and murder their slave owners instead. Yea, I'm sure that would have gone well. LOL.

I am almost reminded of how Paul felt before going to his death for his faith as he was held in the deepest and darkest of dungeons. He still had hope and peace, something the world could not strip from him no matter how badly they mistreated him. Even though he was physically a slave, God had set his soul free long before.
Stop justifying slavery.
 
Jews have been doing that for over 100 years. Tranny surgery was started by a jew. Ironically that hospital was destroyed by hitler.

Israel has some of the most progressive laws for gays in the world.

--Did the promised land get taken over by the devil?
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Gives the mentally ill a ticket to fame in the age of the internet/mass media. That is why John Lennon was killed.


Nothing new here. We disrespected King George and fought a war. There has always been riots over various real and perceived grievances.


What cultural decay? What American era was less decayed than ours?
The morality of the human race has always been a train wreck.

But the fact remains, the best historically seems to have come from a country who all came to America seeking religious freedom.

From that, that country produced men who formed a government that provided the most freedom of any government till that time, as it still does today.


And as the same country distances itself from faith in God, those freedoms have begun to wane to the point that about half the country wants to do away with freedom of speech.


Coincidence?
 
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Yes he did. He told the isrealites to go take over a village and enslave everyone, to sell for debts. He tells how to treat them. Many more examples of it. Would you like more?

Verse(s)?
 
While also condoning it.
No, allowing it.

It is similar to Jesus discussing divorce, which was never part of his plan in Matthew 19

3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?

4And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

5And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

6Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

7They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?

8He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

9And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

10His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.

11But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.

Again, the human state is a train wreck. As a result, some allowances had to be made.

As for the Jew thingy, you do realize that the Pharisees were Jews as well, right? It was a group he openly went off on time and again calling them a brood of vipers and hypocrites

You also know that the Jewish authority had him put on a cross as well, in addition to hunting down all the disciples, right?

So, no, just because you were born into a particular culture of religion does not make you a person of God.
 
No, allowing it.

It is similar to Jesus discussing divorce, which was never part of his plan in Matthew 19

3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?

4And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

5And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

6Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

7They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?

8He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

9And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

10His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.

11But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.

Again, the human state is a train wreck. As a result, some allowances had to be made.

As for the Jew thingy, you do realize that the Pharisees were Jews as well, right? It was a group he openly went off on time and again calling them a brood of vipers and hypocrites

You also know that the Jewish authority had him put on a cross as well, in addition to hunting down all the disciples, right?

So, no, just because you were born into a particular culture of religion does not make you a person of God.
He didnt want HIS PEOPLE being slaves.
 
The morality of the human race has always been a train wreck.
Disagree but that is not the issue.

But the fact remains, the best historically seems to have come from a country who all came to America seeking religious freedom.
The Puritans came to America seeking religious freedom for themselves, but not for others.

From that, that country produced men who formed a government that provided the most freedom of any government till that time, as it still does today.
Fact.

And as the same country distances itself from faith in God, those freedoms have begun to wane to the point that about half the country wants to do away with freedom of speech.

Coincidence?
Yes, apples and oranges. Correlation is not proof of causation.
 
He didnt want HIS PEOPLE being slaves.
And he wants everyone to be his people, or did you miss that memo?
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While also condoning it.
When have I condoned slavery?

Moreover, when have Christians today or Jews today practice it?

Granted, Muslims still do today, but Mo took them that direction due to being such a moral train wreck himself.
 
And he wants everyone to be his people, or did you miss that memo?
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He explicitly stated many times, he didnt want Israelites being slaves, unless they chose it. Such as to pay off debts or something. He explicitly said taking slaves from other people is fine. Mutiple times. He even told them how to treat them.
If he didnt want slavery, he would have said it. He had no trouble saying he didnt like something in every other subject. Such as shellfish, or dudes sucking dick.
 
He explicitly stated many times, he didnt want Israelites being slaves, unless they chose it. Such as to pay off debts or something. He explicitly said taking slaves from other people is fine. Mutiple times. He even told them how to treat them.
If he didnt want slavery, he would have said it. He had no trouble saying he didnt like something in every other subject. Such as shellfish, or dudes sucking dick.
Verses?
 
When have I condoned slavery?

Moreover, when have Christians today or Jews today practice it?

Granted, Muslims still do today, but Mo took them that direction due to being such a moral train wreck himself.
Not you lol.
Christians and jews got more moral DESPITE god. They evolved. Like evolving from the town elders killing children who have a smart mouth.
Islam isnt as evolved. Granted, its several hundred years behind.
 
Not you lol.
Christians and jews got more moral DESPITE god. They evolved. Like evolving from the town elders killing children who have a smart mouth.
Islam isnt as evolved. Granted, its several hundred years behind.
As far as I know, the American culture is the first in human history to usher in a major Civil war to end slavery.

No credit given to the fact that they were heavily influenced by the Judeo-Christian narrative?

I suppose they were just special.

At least you see Islam as wanting to back to a pre-Christian slave like world.

Baby steps.

Meanwhile, the Left portrays early America as the worst example of morality in the history of mankind.

Funny that.
 
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That's the good thing about being agnostic, you can discern between right and wrong without the "side effects" of kowtowing to a particular religion.
Yep. What these Christians ignore is that many Islamists kill homosexuals as mandated in the Old Testament and by their God called Allah. They also forget that most all Christians have never read the bible and if they did they would be atheist.
 
Not you lol.
Christians and jews got more moral DESPITE god. They evolved. Like evolving from the town elders killing children who have a smart mouth.
Islam isnt as evolved. Granted, its several hundred years behind.
Yep. It was up to humans to decide that slavery was wrong instead of believing that it was OK and some God made rules about how to beat them and trade them.
 
Yep. What these Christians ignore is that many Islamists kill homosexuals as mandated in the Old Testament and by their God called Allah. They also forget that most all Christians have never read the bible and if they did they would be atheist.
So, Jews and Christians don't murder homosexuals and own slaves and marry children like they do in Islam because they don't read their Bibles?

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Yep. It was up to humans to decide that slavery was wrong instead of believing that it was OK and some God made rules about how to beat them and trade them.
What is his the name of this God?

I will give you a hint, it is not Allah.
 
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