Zone1 Atheism Has No Basis for the Idea of Good or Evil, Just or Unjust

[Blues Man]

There's too much stupidity on this thread in the last couple pages to even deal with.

There comes a point when you gotta take the advice from Proverbs about arguing with certain types of people.

And if we called you stupid for believing what you do you'd call us bigots.

But in your arrogance you believe you are just so much more intelligent than the people who disagree with you don't you? You are right they are wrong end of story.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Republican Saint Thomas Parker wrote, an embryo/fertilized human egg is a person and “cannot be wrongfully destroyed without incurring the wrath of a holy God, who views the destruction of His image as an affront to Himself.” WTF and Jesus H. Christ, MAGA Alabamians?


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An excerpt from ••••• alternet.org Trump tells: "We have to bring back our religion," Trump declared. "We have to bring back Christianity."

A Question For Pro-Choicers 231028:
ding Oct’23 Saqfpc: “Consciousness did indeed evolve unless of course you believe life went from non-self aware single cell organisms to highly complex, self aware beings magically. {post•1020} ding 231027 Saqfpc01020

{post•822} Please confirm Saint Ding whether or not you agree with the scientific/biological fact that every single one of the persons represented in the above image went from being a physical and material, non-self aware single cell organism to an underdeveloped multicell complex self aware human being and they did so at about 20 weeks following conception?

Bible-quoting Alabama chief justice sparks church-state debate in embryo ruling​

Nation Feb 23, 2024When the Alabama Supreme Court ruled that frozen embryos are considered children under state law, its chief justice had a higher authority in mind. •¥• By citing verses from the Bible and Christian theologians in his concurring opinion, Chief Justice Tom Parker alarmed advocates for church-state separation, while delighting religious conservatives who oppose abortion. •¥¥• Human life, Parker wrote, “cannot be wrongfully destroyed without incurring the wrath of a holy God, who views the destruction of His image as an affront to Himself.” Bible-quoting Alabama chief justice sparks church-state debate in embryo ruling •¥¥¥• pblshd240223 Alabama white Christian nationalist judge IVF​

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Trump tells right-wing Christians they will have power at 'level you’ve never used before' Lakhota Feb’24 Vcntac: “Scary stuff. What do you think?”

••••• Lakhota Feb’24 Vcntac inserted alternet link: ••••• alternet.org Trump tells right-wing Christians they will have power at 'level you’ve never used before' ••••• lvkhvtv 240224 vcntac00129 •••••

An excerpt from ••••• alternet.org Trump tells : "We have to bring back our religion," Trump declared. "We have to bring back Christianity."

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Where exactly did White Christian Nationalism {WCN} go that Donald J Trump and his WCN religious extremist cult political base go think it needs to be ‘brought back’ ??????


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[Cougarbear]

Not a valid response. The founders formed our country attempting to avoid the pitfalls of other countries with a form of government that has a Constitution inspired of the God of the Book of Mormon and Bible. The purpose of this country was to allow for enough freedom of religion and thought for Jesus Christ to restore his Church again to the world after centuries of full apostasy.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Atheism Has No Basis for the Idea of Good or Evil, Just or Unjust 240225 {post•823} Cougarbear Feb’24 Sahnbf says the Founding Generation formed a government: “that has a Constitution inspired of the God of the Book of Mormon and Bible. The purpose of this country was to allow for enough freedom of religion and thought for Jesus Christ to restore his Church again to the world after centuries of full apostasy.” cgrbr 240225 Sahnbf00823


Atheism Has No Basis for the Idea of Good or Evil, Just or Unjust 240225 {post•824} How do you know what was in the hearts and minds of the founding generation that came from mostly from Europe? And some of whom white European settlers brought many human beings involuntarily from Africa, for what you say, was the purpose of the God of the Bible and Book of Mormon to do quite a bit of a genocidal despicable, shit, plunder, and pillage to the inhabitants that had lived in the New World, posing no harm to God’s Children in Europe, for tens of thousands of years. All this in the name of Judeo Christian imperialism, so that.Jesus Christ can restore his Church again to the world after centuries of full apostasy.? do I understand you correctly Saint Cougarbear?

And I’d like to ask Saint Ding if he thinks Saint cougar bear has this particular white Christian nationalist myth bolted down pretty good.

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[Ringo]

Cosmological-metaphysical thread.
The diameter of the observable Universe is 96 billion light years, due to the expansion of space-time, if 13.8 billion years have passed from the Big Bang.Trillions of galaxies remain observable, with tens of billions of stars in each, 30% have planets.
The latest research makes the universe twice as old, ~26 billion years, greatly increasing the number of observable galaxies. And there are still regions, perhaps millions of times larger than the observable part, that have gone out of the realm of observation forever and are running away from us at superluminal speeds.

This is to say that the authors of Genesis clearly underestimated the scale of work necessary for the creation of the world. And, purely statistically, in such an unimaginable number of habitable worlds-there must be trillions of planets in the habitable zone, with liquid water- life is bound to arise.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Atheism Has No Basis for the Idea of Good or Evil, Just or Unjust 240225 {note•825} Ringo Feb’24 Sahnbf:
Cosmological-metaphysical thread. •¥• The diameter of the observable Universe is 96 billion light years, due to the expansion of space-time, if 13.8 billion years have passed from the Big Bang.Trillions of galaxies remain observable, with tens of billions of stars in each, 30% have planets. •¥¥• The latest research makes the universe twice as old, ~26 billion years, greatly increasing the number of observable galaxies. And there are still regions, perhaps millions of times larger than the observable part, that have gone out of the realm of observation forever and are running away from us at superluminal speeds. •¥¥¥• This is to say that the authors of Genesis clearly underestimated the scale of work necessary for the creation of the world. And, purely statistically, in such an unimaginable number of habitable worlds-there must be trillions of planets in the habitable zone, with liquid water- life is bound to arise. •¥¥¥¥• {note•825} rvngv 240225 Sahnbf00825

So it is possible that there is a world history out there in the cosmos, begat by a life form similar to those of us on planet earth. It is possible this similar life form has developed a civilization superior to ours but not based on worshipping the Judeo Christian ancient war God through his only begotten Son. Perhaps a civilization exists where atheism was the norm where peaceful, civilization thrived.

 

[Ringo]

The only problem with atheism is that there are millions of people who should burn in Hell.
But there is no Hell....

 

[GreatestIam]

Rephrase...

What is "God's" basis for good and evil?
If "God" believes "God"is "good" then any abomination created or performed by "God" is therefore "good."
Including mass murder, murdering children, torture, rape...

If we need "God" to define "good and evil" who defines "good and evil" for "God?"

Can "God" be considered and atheist, and if not, who does "God" worship?

You cannot answer a simple moral question and deflect to what cannot be known. I see a lot of Christian Moral Cowards do the same.

 

[Dadoalex]

You cannot answer a simple moral question and deflect to what cannot be known. I see a lot of Christian Moral Cowards do the same.

Moral coward?
I look reality in the eye and call "god" a murdering rapist.
If you cannot say the same then the guy in your mirror is the "moral coward."

too afraid of your god to call your god out for what he is.

 

[ding]

Moral coward?
I look reality in the eye and call "god" a murdering rapist.
If you cannot say the same then the guy in your mirror is the "moral coward."

too afraid of your god to call your god out for what he is.

Kinda seems like you are proving the point of the OP.

 

[ding]

This is to say that the authors of Genesis clearly underestimated the scale of work necessary for the creation of the world. And, purely statistically, in such an unimaginable number of habitable worlds-there must be trillions of planets in the habitable zone, with liquid water- life is bound to arise.

And yet they knew the universe was created and that light appeared after the creation of the universe.

 

[GreatestIam]

Moral coward?
I look reality in the eye and call "god" a murdering rapist.
If you cannot say the same then the guy in your mirror is the "moral coward."

too afraid of your god to call your god out for what he is.

Just answering my simple moral question above, instead of all your, whatever that was, would have shown me that we were on the same moral page on the Yahweh/Jesus genocidal combo.

 

[ding]

Just answering my simple moral question above, instead of all your, whatever that was, would have shown me that we were on the same moral page on the Yahweh/Jesus genocidal combo.

I'm glad the two of you could get a room.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

they knew the universe was created and that light appeared after the creation of the universe.

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Saint Ding above speaks often as if he knows what was in the minds and hearts of what he calls our “Christian” founding generation.

Since Saint Ding has super powers that most human beings do not have, I’m wishing he could respond to the question pertaining to Saint Cougarbear who says the Founding Generation formed a government: “that has a Constitution inspired of the God for Jesus Christ to restore his Church again to the world after centuries of full apostas

Atheism Has No Basis for the Idea of Good or Evil, Just or Unjust 240225 {post•824} NotfooledbyW Feb’24 Ahnbf: How do you know what was in the hearts and minds of the founding generation that came from mostly from Europe? And some of whom were white European settlers who brought many human beings involuntarily from Africa, for what you say, was the purpose of the God of the Bible and Book of Mormon to do quite a bit of a genocidal despicable, shit, plunder, and pillage to the inhabitants that had lived in the New World, posing no harm to God’s Children in Europe, for tens of thousands of years. All this was in the name of Judeo Christian imperialism, so that.Jesus Christ can restore his Church again to the world after centuries of full apostasy.? do I understand you correctly Saint Cougarbear? nfbw 240225 Vahnbf00824

The founders formed our country attempting to avoid the pitfalls of other countries with a form of government that has a Constitution inspired of the God of the Book of Mormon and Bible. The purpose of this country was to allow for enough freedom of religion and thought for Jesus Christ to restore his Church again to the world after centuries of full apostasy

 

[Cougarbear]

Atheism Has No Basis for the Idea of Good or Evil, Just or Unjust 240308
Saint Ding above speaks often as if he knows what was in the minds and hearts of what he calls our “Christian” founding generation.

Since Saint Ding has super powers that most human beings do not have, I’m wishing he could respond to the question pertaining to Saint Cougarbear who says the Founding Generation formed a government: “that has a Constitution inspired of the God for Jesus Christ to restore his Church again to the world after centuries of full apostas

Atheism Has No Basis for the Idea of Good or Evil, Just or Unjust 240225 {post•824} NotfooledbyW Feb’24 Ahnbf: How do you know what was in the hearts and minds of the founding generation that came from mostly from Europe? And some of whom were white European settlers who brought many human beings involuntarily from Africa, for what you say, was the purpose of the God of the Bible and Book of Mormon to do quite a bit of a genocidal despicable, shit, plunder, and pillage to the inhabitants that had lived in the New World, posing no harm to God’s Children in Europe, for tens of thousands of years. All this was in the name of Judeo Christian imperialism, so that.Jesus Christ can restore his Church again to the world after centuries of full apostasy.? do I understand you correctly Saint Cougarbear? nfbw 240225 Vahnbf00824

That’s correct. God rarely interferes with us as we have by our creator liberty and freedom to choose good or evil. All through that, souls were inspired to establish a country with our natural unalienable rights of life, liberty and the right of freedom of religion and speech. So that the Church could be restored.

 

[surada]

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the source of correct morality. Not the masses or the majority.

There's also the Code of Hammurabi and the Egyptian Book of the Dead. Both are older than Judaism.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

So that the Church could be restored.

What Church Could be restored Saint Cougarbear? Is Saint Trump part of that restoration?


Is Liberty Christian University part of the restoration of the “Church”?

 

[Cougarbear]

There's also the Code of Hammurabi and the Egyptian Book of the Dead. Both are older than Judaism.

Was that for Israel???

 

[Cougarbear]

What Church Could be restored Saint Cougarbear? Is Saint Trump part of that restoration?


Is Liberty Christian University part of the restoration of the “Church”?

The Church of Jesus Christ...

 

[whutTHEYsay]

The Church of Jesus Christ...

Atheism Has No Basis for the Idea of Good or Evil, Just or Unjust 240308
So you are saying, Saint Cougarbear, that God had a plan in 1790 wherein the highly educated intellectual souls of George Washington, a Freemason we all know and Thomas Paine the rabble rousing revolutionary pamphleteer who wrote The Age of Reason, and all the historic participants in the American Revolution were intended to restore, as you describe it, “The Church of Jesus Christ” whatever that is, to what?

Is the divinely inspired body of “The Church of Jesus Christ” as you recognize it, therefore responsible for the expansion beyond the original 13 colonies which required pushing the inhabitants off the land where the body of “The Church of Jesus Christ” needed to go to expand the Kingdom of God on earth?

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