Atheism And Ceasing To Exist Oblivion.

[dblack]

There is, technically speaking, no such thing as an atheist.

If you say so.

 

[Grumblenuts]

There is, technically speaking, no such thing as an atheist.

ALL men KNOW there is a God that created them.

Sorry. Even technically, I lack belief in such assertions.

 

[Clyde 154]

Your life is like writing a book. All through your life, you add to that book.
When you die, that book is closed and placed on a shelf.

Some books are cherished and are frequently read.
Others are quickly forgotten

Regardless of ideology or philosophy all life is dependent upon the creating force.......whatever one philosophies that force may be there is no such thing as control, control is an illusion used by man to project his own mortality, living as if there is an eternal force to life. Why is that? Its an "innate" human character trait of being human.......having in one's subconscious a knowledge that the force that animates human flesh was created/designed for eternal existence. We are all at the mercy of that creating force, be it nature or superior to nature.....we live each day by the GRACE of that creating force with no control of any future. Thus, the most efficient life style is to live each day as it is your last day, for one day......sooner than one can imagine....it will be.

Question? What would anyone hope to do if our sun (at the authority of the creating force) went Nova? Die. There is no control. Can anyone control viruses, wild animals, accidents (they are called accidents for a reason)......illness due to heredity, poverty due to circumstances for all the above situations? There is no control.

Christian doctrine is not about religion........its about "spirituality" and accepting your place and inferior status to the creating force...... within this reality we call life. Throughout the entire work of books called the Holy Scriptures there is one main philosophy.............live life in truth. Its truth that can set one's spirit at rest......the good, the bad and the ugly truth, in order to overcome any situation one must face it in TRUTH.

Those that focus to much on one's morality often lose their sanity.....and live this life in an 'unnatural' state of fear, some pretend to have no fear, usually they are the one's that shout the loudest for God when confronted with death after a life spent ignoring their own mortality.

What do the scriptures say about knowing there is an afterlife and a God of Creation?

"For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, BEING UNDERSTOOD BY WHAT HAS BEEN MADE, so they are without excuse." -- Romans 1:20

 

[JAG]

Sorry. Even technically, I lack belief in such assertions.

Technically I lack belief in what you just said and I'm not sorry, rather I'm glad I do.
As I said previously:
Just because some men claim they lack belief in the existence
of God does not mean that they actually DO lack belief in the
existence of God. On Christian lights, God, in Romans, and in
other Bible verses, says there is no such thing as an atheist.
As a Christian I have a clear choice:
{1} I can believe what God says
{2} I can believe what mere men claim to be true.
I choose to believe what God said.
End of story.
Period.
I'm locked-down on this.
Forever.

Best.
JAG

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[JAG]

If you say so.

 

[JAG]

You will spend an eternity floating in the clouds among fat, naked babies playing harps.

That is incorrect.
God is the God of Andromeda.
We're going to the stars.
We're going to explore the Universe.
You greatly misunderstand the God of the Bible.
God LOVES true science and exploration, for example Math , , ,

Math originated in the nature of God who
is the Original Mathematician --- just as all the other
disciplines also originated in the nature of God.

God Is The , , ,

Original Mathematician

Original Physicist

Original Cosmologist

(Our God is Magnificent)

Original Inventor

Original Artist

Original Scientist

Original Oceanographer

Original Philosopher

Original Epistemologist

Original Empiricist

(Our God is amazing and wonderful)

Original Poet (eg. read the God inspired Psalms in the Old Testament)

Original Writer (see 2 Timothy 3:14-17)

Original Lover {wanting the best for others}

Original Chooser { Volition }

Original Economist

Original Emotion-ist {the full range of All Good Emotions}

Original Planner

Original Creator

Original Designer

Original Technologist

Original Educator

Original Everything Good , , ,

, , and we humans participate in all that up there since we are
made in the image of God , , ,

, , and all that above is why human beings, made in the image of God,
have been able to build the modern world and will be able to keep making
progress in Science and Technology for ever and ever, even when the
human race makes the transition from Earthly human history to Eternity.

Humans are made in the image of God and God has , ,
~ An Intellect --- and so do we humans
~ Emotions --- and so do we humans
~ Volition {a Will, the ability to choose -- and so do we humans)

God's John 3:16 Human Race Love Project Project ends victoriously.

Long live science. True science and exploring God's great Universe.

Best Regards.

JAG


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[Grumblenuts]

We are all at the mercy of that creating force, be it nature or superior to nature.....we live each day by the GRACE of that creating force with no control of any future. Thus, the most efficient life style is to live each day as it is your last day, for one day......sooner than one can imagine....it will be.

So then, logically, one should spend any money they happen upon and just play rather than work or save anything for coming necessities, let alone rainy days. Do you self-identify as "conservative"?

some pretend to have no fear, usually they are the one's that shout the loudest for God when confronted with death after a life spent ignoring their own mortality.

From my experience, it's the one's who constantly proselytize and demand shit like accepting Jesus as one's personal Savior who appear least at peace with their own imminent deaths. Best accept that it's all BS before it's too late!

 

[rightwinger]

Regardless of ideology or philosophy all life is dependent upon the creating force.......whatever one philosophies that force may be there is no such thing as control, control is an illusion used by man to project his own mortality, living as if there is an eternal force to life. Why is that? Its an "innate" human character trait of being human.......having in one's subconscious a knowledge that the force that animates human flesh was created/designed for eternal existence. We are all at the mercy of that creating force, be it nature or superior to nature.....we live each day by the GRACE of that creating force with no control of any future. Thus, the most efficient life style is to live each day as it is your last day, for one day......sooner than one can imagine....it will be.

Question? What would anyone hope to do if our sun (at the authority of the creating force) went Nova? Die. There is no control. Can anyone control viruses, wild animals, accidents (they are called accidents for a reason)......illness due to heredity, poverty due to circumstances for all the above situations? There is no control.

Christian doctrine is not about religion........its about "spirituality" and accepting your place and inferior status to the creating force...... within this reality we call life. Throughout the entire work of books called the Holy Scriptures there is one main philosophy.............live life in truth. Its truth that can set one's spirit at rest......the good, the bad and the ugly truth, in order to overcome any situation one must face it in TRUTH.

Those that focus to much on one's morality often lose their sanity.....and live this life in an 'unnatural' state of fear, some pretend to have no fear, usually they are the one's that shout the loudest for God when confronted with death after a life spent ignoring their own mortality.

What do the scriptures say about knowing there is an afterlife and a God of Creation?

"For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, BEING UNDERSTOOD BY WHAT HAS BEEN MADE, so they are without excuse." -- Romans 1:20

Basically, life sucks then you die

Life is what you make of it
Counting on some eternal force to take care of you is not productive. YOU are responsible for your own life

 

[Uncensored2008]

There is, technically speaking, no such thing as an atheist.

ALL men KNOW there is a God that created them.

I'm not an Atheist, but I don't know that there is a god or gods. I see no evidence that any sort of deity created me or anyone else.

Like Shitflinger, you make claims based on faith, not on facts.

I have strong Biblical reasons for believing this to be true.

Here they are , , ,

Romans 1:19-20
Romans 1:19-20 says "since what may be known about
God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to
them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible
qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have
been clearly seen, being understood from what has
been made, so that people are without excuse."

Note the particulars in Romans 1:19-20
{1) There is information that can be known about God.
{2} This information is plain to men.
{3} God Himself has made it plain to them.
{4} It has been plain to them since the creation of the world.
{5} God's eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen
{6} All this in understood from what God created.
{7} Therefore men are without excuse {for not believing in God.}

Romans 1:19-20 is the germ principle of the Teleological Argument
for the existence of God -- the argument from the Intelligent Design
of the Human Person, the Earth-Sun-Moon-Stars, and the Universe.

Psalm 19:1-4 , , ,
Psalm 19:1-4 says , , ,
"The heavens declare the glory of God;
the skies proclaim the work of his hands.
Day after day they pour forth speech;
night after night they reveal knowledge.
They have no speech, they use no words;
no sound is heard from them.
Yet their voice goes out into all the earth,
their words to the ends of the world."

Note the particulars in Psalm 19:1-4
{1} The Heavens declare God's glory.
{2} The skies above proclaim His works
{3} Day after day they speak of God's creative work
{4} Night after night they reveal God's works
{5} They use no literal word but their voice goes out worldwide
{6} Therefore all men KNOW there is a God

Just because some men claim they lack belief in the existence
of God does not mean that they actually DO lack belief in the
existence of God. On Christian lights, God, in Romans, and in
other Bible verses, says there is no such thing as an atheist.
As a Christian I have a clear choice:
{1} I can believe what God says
{2} I can believe what mere men claim to be true.

I choose to believe {1}
{see list of those 5 Bible references below}

Romans 1:18
Romans 1:18 says that humans "suppress the truth." Atheists
are part of humanity, so Romans 1:18 applies to them also.

Romans 2:15 , , ,
Romans 2:15 says the requirements of the Laws of God are
"written on their hearts." So all men know there is a God that
created them.

Ecclesiastes 3:11 , , ,
Ecclesiastes 3:11 says , , ,
"He has also set eternity in the human heart"

Five Biblical References , , ,
These Bible verses clearly teach there is no such thing
as an atheist.
Romans 1:18-20
Romans 1:18
Romans 2:15
Psalm 19:1-4
Ecclesiastes 3:11

Best.

JAG


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Why would I, or anyone else give a fuck about the Bible?

That isn't evidence.

You posed a question about what happens after death. I'm honest enough to say "I have no idea."

I'm certain that the Christian religion is a pile of crap, a lot of evidence to support that conclusion.

 

[Hollie]

That is incorrect.
God is the God of Andromeda.
We're going to the stars.
We're going to explore the Universe.
You greatly misunderstand the God of the Bible.
God LOVES true science and exploration, for example Math , , ,

Math originated in the nature of God who
is the Original Mathematician --- just as all the other
disciplines also originated in the nature of God.

God Is The , , ,

Original Mathematician

Original Physicist

Original Cosmologist

(Our God is Magnificent)

Original Inventor

Original Artist

Original Scientist

Original Oceanographer

Original Philosopher

Original Epistemologist

Original Empiricist

(Our God is amazing and wonderful)

Original Poet (eg. read the God inspired Psalms in the Old Testament)

Original Writer (see 2 Timothy 3:14-17)

Original Lover {wanting the best for others}

Original Chooser { Volition }

Original Economist

Original Emotion-ist {the full range of All Good Emotions}

Original Planner

Original Creator

Original Designer

Original Technologist

Original Educator

Original Everything Good , , ,

, , and we humans participate in all that up there since we are
made in the image of God , , ,

, , and all that above is why human beings, made in the image of God,
have been able to build the modern world and will be able to keep making
progress in Science and Technology for ever and ever, even when the
human race makes the transition from Earthly human history to Eternity.

Humans are made in the image of God and God has , ,
~ An Intellect --- and so do we humans
~ Emotions --- and so do we humans
~ Volition {a Will, the ability to choose -- and so do we humans)

God's John 3:16 Human Race Love Project Project ends victoriously.

Long live science. True science and exploring God's great Universe.

Best Regards.

JAG


[]




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You have ascribed a lot of 'originals' to your gods but as expected, no reason for anyone but a believer in your particular gods to accept them as true.

You seem to have omitted an ''original'' attribute; original designer of evil.

 

[konradv]

You will spend an eternity floating in the clouds among fat, naked babies playing harps.

What, no houris? Sorry, Abdul.

 

[Crepitus]

When you die, is that the end of you?

When you die you're done. You only get the one chance, so you better make the best of it. That's why I've been and done so many different things.

 

[dblack]

 

[Uncensored2008]

When you die you're done. You only get the one chance, so you better make the best of it. That's why I've been and done so many different things.

There is no reason to believe your religious faith is true.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Veritasium is a tremendous scientific communicator. Though unfortunately,.. he's just full of shit sometimes.

 

[dblack]

Veritasium is a tremendous scientific communicator. Though unfortunately,.. he's just full of shit sometimes.

Everyone is. Sometimes.

 

[JAG]

You have ascribed a lot of 'originals' to your gods but as expected, no reason for anyone but a believer in your particular gods to accept them as true.

You seem to have omitted an ''original'' attribute; original designer of evil.

Men were the original designer of evil.
But don't worry, the God of the Bible has a plan to get rid of the men that
practice evil. Its not painless, but it will work.
Start here:
Matthew 13:41 following

Best Regards.

JAG


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[JAG]

When you die you're done. You only get the one chance, so you better make the best of it. That's why I've been and done so many different things.

It doesn't have to end like that.
The Lord Jesus will give you eternal life if you come to Him'
and ask Him for it.
You don't have to die.
You can live on and enjoy life and enjoy doing things that you have
never done before ~~ like exploring Andromeda ,,, for starters.
God created the Universe for us to use and inhabit , , , and explore.
Think about it.
Why die when you don't have to die.
Start reading the New Testament.
Ask God to help you believe.
He will if you sincerely ask Him to help you.

Best Regards.

JAG


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[Crepitus]

It doesn't have to end like that.
The Lord Jesus will give you eternal life if you come to Him'
and ask Him for it.
You don't have to die.
You can live on and enjoy life and enjoy doing things that you have
never done before ~~ like exploring Andromeda ,,, for starters.
God created the Universe for us to use and inhabit , , , and explore.
Think about it.
Why die when you don't have to die.
Start reading the New Testament.
Ask God to help you believe.
He will if you sincerely ask Him to help you.

Best Regards.

JAG


``

You believe what you want. I'll stick to with what I can see and feel.

 

[Colin norris]

Atheism And Ceasing To Exist Oblivion.
By JAG

When you die, is that the end of you?
Or do you continue to live on and on somewhere after you die?

Atheists answer those questions as follows:

Some atheists say they do not know if humans cease to
exist after death, that there may be an afterlife.

THATS A LIE. ATHEISTS DO NOT BELIEVE OR SAY THAT.

Many other atheists say that humans DO cease to exist after
death. The following remarks are addressed to those atheists
who we can correctly label "Humans-Cease-To-Exist-Atheists."

Cockroaches . . .

On Humans-Cease-To-Exist Atheism there is no ultimate difference
in the end of a human being and a cockroach, in that both have the
same ultimate destiny, namely oblivion as in ceasing to exist. This is
a very sad position to hold and believe.
ITS NOT SAD. ITS A FACT. ONLY ARROGANT GODBOTHERERS BELIEVE THEY ESCAPE OBLIVION

House plants . . .

On Humans-Cease-To-Exist Atheism there is no ultimate difference
in the end of a human being and a house plant, in that both have the
same ultimate destiny, namely oblivion as in ceasing to exist. The same
very sad thought.

Question for Humans-Cease-To-Exist-Atheists: How does it make
you feel to believe that you have no more ultimate worth and value
than a house plant and a cockroach?
IM VERY COMFORTABLE KNOWING TRUTH. YOU JESUS JINKIES WILL BE DISAPPOINTED.
Or dead critters smashed in road kills . . . .
{they cease to exist too }

Again, that which ceases to exist has no ultimate worth and value.
Nothing cannot be valuable. Cockroaches and house plants die and
cease to exist. They cease to be valuable. They become trash to be
collected and discarded.
THATS CORRECT. THAT TRASH COLLECTION HAS BEEN CONDUCTED FOR CENTURIES. ITS CALLED FUNERALS.
Get set for some repetition . . . .

On Cease-To-Exist Atheism you eventually cease to exist and that
which has ceased to exist has become a zero. Atheists do have
worth and value in the present to their own selves and in their
own mind and in their own feelings. And they do have present
worth and value to their family and to their friends. However on
Cease-To-Exist Atheism atheists have no ultimate worth and
value because they ultimately become nothing. Zero. 0.0000

THATS CORRECT. JUST LIKE GODBOTHERERS.

Atheists can make valuable contributions to humanity and they can
leave behind that value, for example if an atheist finds a cure for a
disease -- but the atheist himself, on his atheism, has no ultimate
worth and value because on atheism he ceases to exist and that
which has ceased to exist has become a zero 0000000 and a zero

WHERES YOUR EVIDENCE THEY HAVE NO WORTH? HAS SCIENCE NO WORTH IF CONDUCTED BY ATHEISTS? WHAT A RATBAG STATEMENT.

is not valuable. He ONCE WAS valuable --- but now that he has,
on atheism, become a zero, he is no longer valuable.
CONSIDERING THE FACT WEWERE BOTH BORN ATHEISTS, YOU HAVE NO RECORD OF YOU BECOMING OF WORTH BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE IN SOME HIDEOUS GOD. HOW ARROGANT ARE YOU.

Ultimate definition: "being or happening at the end of a process."
On Cease-To-Exist Atheism atheists will cease to exist at the end
of the process of their lives.

That which no longer exists is not worth anything.
Its utterly impossible for nothing to be valuable.
And on Cease-To-Exist Atheism, they end up
ultimately in oblivion, as in nothing. Zero.

Why do I keep repeating this?
Because repetition is the mother of learning.
And because , , , ,

This is very sad. Atheism is pure sadness.

WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE OF THIS SADNESS AND ANGER YOU ALL SAY? ITS ACTUALLY A PATHETIC PUT DOWN TO GIVE YOUR LIFE MORE WORTH AND BETTER THAN A ATHEIST. ITS BULLSHIT.
WHAT IS SAD IS YOU ARROGANT GODBOTHERERS BELIEVE BECAUSE YOU FOLLOW A GOD YOU ARE SOMEHOW SPECIAL AND DESERVE A REWARD FOR IT. WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP.

No future.

No hope.

No more love. No more music. No more good movies.
No more friends. No more satisfying relationships.
No more beauty. No more sunsets to enjoy. No more
good food to enjoy. No more beautiful images to enjoy.
Name one, just one, good thing about ceasing to exist.
Name it:
{1} _________________

Contrast Christendom's great doctrines of Eternal Life.

"For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that
whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life." John 3:16

"My sheep listen to my voice, I know them, and they follow me, I give them
eternal life and they shall never perish." John 10:27-28

JAG

YOURE GOD GAVE NOTHING OTHER THAN DELUSIONS OF YOUR MIND.
YOURE NUTTIER THAN A FRUIT CAKE.
WAKE UP TO YOURSELF YOU FOOL.