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Assault Weapons Ban would be unconstitutional. "A State Militia must be maintained and well regulated"

Wild Bill Kelsoe

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You all know where the U.S. government , and many Politicians are headed. They eventually want to confiscate all rifles and handguns from all citizens somewhere down the road. As part of the United Nations one world government takeover of the entire Earth.New World Order. This is what the Gun control people , and groups won't tell you.
This is a lie.

No it isn't. That's why the new anti-gun laws are going through Congress as we speak. Registration, registration will be public information, etc.
 

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You all know where the U.S. government , and many Politicians are headed. They eventually want to confiscate all rifles and handguns from all citizens somewhere down the road. As part of the United Nations one world government takeover of the entire Earth.New World Order. This is what the Gun control people , and groups won't tell you.
This is a lie.

This is a lie
The notion of "confiscating" all guns is a lie.

The notion of a "one world government" is a lie.
 

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You all know where the U.S. government , and many Politicians are headed. They eventually want to confiscate all rifles and handguns from all citizens somewhere down the road. As part of the United Nations one world government takeover of the entire Earth.New World Order. This is what the Gun control people , and groups won't tell you.
This is a lie.

No it isn't. That's why the new anti-gun laws are going through Congress as we speak. Registration, registration will be public information, etc.
Another lie.
 

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What does that have to do with anything?

You do not have the right of free speech on someone's property either. No one anywhere argues that business cannot ban guns.
Don’t say No one I’ve been in plenty of debates in this board with people who think the 2nd gives them a right to be armed anywhere and all the time
It does. There is no "except for" in the 2nd only a "shall not be infringed".
You can still be bearing arms within a regulated system. That right would not be infringed. It’s up to interpretation and history shows that the majority of law makers agree that regulations and laws around guns are valid. You’re in the minority

The system is regulated. Murder is illegal. What more do you want?

What Creep is saying is if you can talk but government decides what you can say, your right to free speech isn't infringed since you can still talk. Or say government decides Islam is illegal, Creep is saying your right to worship freely is not infringed since you can still worship.

See how that works?

Thou shalt not convolute the first and second amendments please!
 

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What does that have to do with anything?

You do not have the right of free speech on someone's property either. No one anywhere argues that business cannot ban guns.
Don’t say No one I’ve been in plenty of debates in this board with people who think the 2nd gives them a right to be armed anywhere and all the time
It does. There is no "except for" in the 2nd only a "shall not be infringed".
You can still be bearing arms within a regulated system. That right would not be infringed. It’s up to interpretation and history shows that the majority of law makers agree that regulations and laws around guns are valid. You’re in the minority

The system is regulated. Murder is illegal. What more do you want?

What Creep is saying is if you can talk but government decides what you can say, your right to free speech isn't infringed since you can still talk. Or say government decides Islam is illegal, Creep is saying your right to worship freely is not infringed since you can still worship.

See how that works?
If your speech or religion crosses a line to endanger the public then it has a right to be regulated

To do that, you must while providing due process prove that they broke a law.

Gun regulations ignore due process.

Argument fail.

See, this is how despite being a broken clock, you aren't even right twice a day ...
Gun regulations are literally made through legislation from elected leaders. That is our legal process.
Correct, laws enacted by elected representatives reflecting the will of the people; laws presumed to be Constitutional out of deference for the will of the people, until the Supreme Court rules otherwise.

Another moron who has shifting standards and knows nothing about the Constitution or the law and thinks we can regulate speech or outlaw relegations "until the Supreme Court rules otherwise." Or not. Depends on whether you want it or not ...
 

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What does that have to do with anything?

You do not have the right of free speech on someone's property either. No one anywhere argues that business cannot ban guns.
Don’t say No one I’ve been in plenty of debates in this board with people who think the 2nd gives them a right to be armed anywhere and all the time
It does. There is no "except for" in the 2nd only a "shall not be infringed".
You can still be bearing arms within a regulated system. That right would not be infringed. It’s up to interpretation and history shows that the majority of law makers agree that regulations and laws around guns are valid. You’re in the minority

The system is regulated. Murder is illegal. What more do you want?

What Creep is saying is if you can talk but government decides what you can say, your right to free speech isn't infringed since you can still talk. Or say government decides Islam is illegal, Creep is saying your right to worship freely is not infringed since you can still worship.

See how that works?

Thou shalt not convolute the first and second amendments please!

Amendment changes, your standard changes. This is exactly the point I'm making and you just agreed
 

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You all know where the U.S. government , and many Politicians are headed. They eventually want to confiscate all rifles and handguns from all citizens somewhere down the road. As part of the United Nations one world government takeover of the entire Earth.New World Order. This is what the Gun control people , and groups won't tell you.
This is a lie.

No it isn't. That's why the new anti-gun laws are going through Congress as we speak. Registration, registration will be public information, etc.
Another lie.

It's right here in HR 127:

First, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives must establish (1) a licensing system for the possession of firearms or ammunition, and (2) a registration system for firearms.

In addition, the Department of Justice (DOJ) must establish and maintain a publicly available database of all registered firearms.


Your Democrat handlers are lying to you.
 

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You all know where the U.S. government , and many Politicians are headed. They eventually want to confiscate all rifles and handguns from all citizens somewhere down the road. As part of the United Nations one world government takeover of the entire Earth.New World Order. This is what the Gun control people , and groups won't tell you.
This is a lie.

This is a lie
The notion of "confiscating" all guns is a lie.

The notion of a "one world government" is a lie.

Democrats across the board and in politics keep saying you are lying, they do want all guns confiscated
 

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You all know where the U.S. government , and many Politicians are headed. They eventually want to confiscate all rifles and handguns from all citizens somewhere down the road. As part of the United Nations one world government takeover of the entire Earth.New World Order. This is what the Gun control people , and groups won't tell you.
This is a lie.

No it isn't. That's why the new anti-gun laws are going through Congress as we speak. Registration, registration will be public information, etc.
Another lie.

It's right here in HR 127:

First, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives must establish (1) a licensing system for the possession of firearms or ammunition, and (2) a registration system for firearms.

In addition, the Department of Justice (DOJ) must establish and maintain a publicly available database of all registered firearms.


Your Democrat handlers are lying to you.

Clayton is consistent. He'd be perfectly fine with requiring people to register and pay a fee for freedom of speech, protection from warrantless searches of his personal property or having to register to get protection for his religion. Right Clayton?
 

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You all know where the U.S. government , and many Politicians are headed. They eventually want to confiscate all rifles and handguns from all citizens somewhere down the road. As part of the United Nations one world government takeover of the entire Earth.New World Order. This is what the Gun control people , and groups won't tell you.
This is a lie.

No it isn't. That's why the new anti-gun laws are going through Congress as we speak. Registration, registration will be public information, etc.
Another lie.

It's right here in HR 127:

First, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives must establish (1) a licensing system for the possession of firearms or ammunition, and (2) a registration system for firearms.

In addition, the Department of Justice (DOJ) must establish and maintain a publicly available database of all registered firearms.


Your Democrat handlers are lying to you.

Clayton is consistent. He'd be perfectly fine with requiring people to register and pay a fee for freedom of speech, protection from warrantless searches of his personal property or having to register to get protection for his religion. Right Clayton?

Wow, if everyone scrambled all Constitutional amendments like you do, this country would be a total mess.

The First Amendment is the First Amendment.

The Second Amendment is the Second Amendment.

They are two completely separate Amendments. This discussion is about the Second Amendment.

Despite your paranoid delusions!
 

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You all know where the U.S. government , and many Politicians are headed. They eventually want to confiscate all rifles and handguns from all citizens somewhere down the road. As part of the United Nations one world government takeover of the entire Earth.New World Order. This is what the Gun control people , and groups won't tell you.

No, the people that support common sense gun regulation Respect the Second Amendment and do not want all guns confiscated.

The United Nations is toothless - it's so far from being any sort of major power it's laughable.

The New World order was initiated on July 4, 1776. Do you really want to go back to the Old World order?

You're probably a Trump supporter, so obviously you do want to return to the Old World order.
 

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You all know where the U.S. government , and many Politicians are headed. They eventually want to confiscate all rifles and handguns from all citizens somewhere down the road. As part of the United Nations one world government takeover of the entire Earth.New World Order. This is what the Gun control people , and groups won't tell you.
This is a lie.

No it isn't. That's why the new anti-gun laws are going through Congress as we speak. Registration, registration will be public information, etc.
Another lie.

It's right here in HR 127:

First, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives must establish (1) a licensing system for the possession of firearms or ammunition, and (2) a registration system for firearms.

In addition, the Department of Justice (DOJ) must establish and maintain a publicly available database of all registered firearms.


Your Democrat handlers are lying to you.

Clayton is consistent. He'd be perfectly fine with requiring people to register and pay a fee for freedom of speech, protection from warrantless searches of his personal property or having to register to get protection for his religion. Right Clayton?

Wow, if everyone scrambled all Constitutional amendments like you do, this country would be a total mess.

The First Amendment is the First Amendment.

The Second Amendment is the Second Amendment.

They are two completely separate Amendments. This discussion is about the Second Amendment.

Despite your paranoid delusions!

Richard: Cmon kaz, stop talking about my double standards!

My point is about the second amendment. When we change amendment, the giant screeching sound is your standard changing.

When you want something, the Constitution is a sledge hammer. When you don't, the Constitution is toilet paper
 
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You all know where the U.S. government , and many Politicians are headed. They eventually want to confiscate all rifles and handguns from all citizens somewhere down the road. As part of the United Nations one world government takeover of the entire Earth.New World Order. This is what the Gun control people , and groups won't tell you.
This is a lie.

No it isn't. That's why the new anti-gun laws are going through Congress as we speak. Registration, registration will be public information, etc.
Another lie.

It's right here in HR 127:

First, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives must establish (1) a licensing system for the possession of firearms or ammunition, and (2) a registration system for firearms.

In addition, the Department of Justice (DOJ) must establish and maintain a publicly available database of all registered firearms.


Your Democrat handlers are lying to you.

Clayton is consistent. He'd be perfectly fine with requiring people to register and pay a fee for freedom of speech, protection from warrantless searches of his personal property or having to register to get protection for his religion. Right Clayton?

Wow, if everyone scrambled all Constitutional amendments like you do, this country would be a total mess.

The First Amendment is the First Amendment.

The Second Amendment is the Second Amendment.

They are two completely separate Amendments. This discussion is about the Second Amendment.

Despite your paranoid delusions!

Richard: Cmon kaz, stop talking about my double standards!

My point is about the second amendment. When we change amendment, the giant screeching sound is your standard changing.

When you want something, the Constitution is a sledge hammer. When you don't, the Constitution is toilet paper
Sorry Kaz, Richie is schooling your ass. It’s fun to watch
 

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You all know where the U.S. government , and many Politicians are headed. They eventually want to confiscate all rifles and handguns from all citizens somewhere down the road. As part of the United Nations one world government takeover of the entire Earth.New World Order. This is what the Gun control people , and groups won't tell you.
This is a lie.

No it isn't. That's why the new anti-gun laws are going through Congress as we speak. Registration, registration will be public information, etc.
Another lie.

It's right here in HR 127:

First, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives must establish (1) a licensing system for the possession of firearms or ammunition, and (2) a registration system for firearms.

In addition, the Department of Justice (DOJ) must establish and maintain a publicly available database of all registered firearms.


Your Democrat handlers are lying to you.

Clayton is consistent. He'd be perfectly fine with requiring people to register and pay a fee for freedom of speech, protection from warrantless searches of his personal property or having to register to get protection for his religion. Right Clayton?

Wow, if everyone scrambled all Constitutional amendments like you do, this country would be a total mess.

The First Amendment is the First Amendment.

The Second Amendment is the Second Amendment.

They are two completely separate Amendments. This discussion is about the Second Amendment.

Despite your paranoid delusions!

Richard: Cmon kaz, stop talking about my double standards!

My point is about the second amendment. When we change amendment, the giant screeching sound is your standard changing.

When you want something, the Constitution is a sledge hammer. When you don't, the Constitution is toilet paper
Sorry Kaz, Richie is schooling your ass. It’s fun to watch

Wow, another leftist endorsing double standards. Who saw that coming? I mean EVERYBODY ...

LOL
 

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You all know where the U.S. government , and many Politicians are headed. They eventually want to confiscate all rifles and handguns from all citizens somewhere down the road. As part of the United Nations one world government takeover of the entire Earth.New World Order. This is what the Gun control people , and groups won't tell you.
This is a lie.

No it isn't. That's why the new anti-gun laws are going through Congress as we speak. Registration, registration will be public information, etc.
Another lie.

It's right here in HR 127:

First, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives must establish (1) a licensing system for the possession of firearms or ammunition, and (2) a registration system for firearms.

In addition, the Department of Justice (DOJ) must establish and maintain a publicly available database of all registered firearms.


Your Democrat handlers are lying to you.

Clayton is consistent. He'd be perfectly fine with requiring people to register and pay a fee for freedom of speech, protection from warrantless searches of his personal property or having to register to get protection for his religion. Right Clayton?

Wow, if everyone scrambled all Constitutional amendments like you do, this country would be a total mess.

The First Amendment is the First Amendment.

The Second Amendment is the Second Amendment.

They are two completely separate Amendments. This discussion is about the Second Amendment.

Despite your paranoid delusions!

Richard: Cmon kaz, stop talking about my double standards!

My point is about the second amendment. When we change amendment, the giant screeching sound is your standard changing.

When you want something, the Constitution is a sledge hammer. When you don't, the Constitution is toilet paper
Sorry Kaz, Richie is schooling your ass. It’s fun to watch

Wow, another leftist endorsing double standards. Who saw that coming? I mean EVERYBODY ...

LOL
Don’t lie, I didn’t endorse double standards I endorsed Richie schooling your ass
 

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The United States constitution clearly states that a "States militia must be well regulated and maintained." A weapon of a "States militia" is an assault rifle. Any ban would violate the United States constitution.

The National Guard has many assault rifles and many other cool weapons. They are the State Militias, who were always ultimately under the command of the CiC. Not the private gun clubs.

"A well regulated Militia," means trained in the art of war.

A "militia" is comprised of civilians whom are NOT under the command of government. We all learned that by third grade...you didn't?

LOL. Well you do display a third grade level education. Most people kept learning after that. Here you go.

"On August 7, 1794, President Washington issued a proclamation, calling out the militia and ordering the disaffected westerners to return to their homes. Washington's order mobilized an army of approximately 13,000 — as large as the one that had defeated the British — under the command of General Harry Lee, the then-Governor of Virginia and father of Robert E. Lee. Washington himself, in a show of presidential authority, set out at the head of the troops to suppress the uprising. This was the first use of the Militia Law of 1792 setting a precedent for the use of the militia to "execute the laws of the union, (and) suppress insurrections," asserting the right of the national government to enforce order in one state with troops raised in other states. Even more importantly, it was the first test of power of the new federal government, establishing its primacy in disputes with individual states. In the end, a dozen or so men were arrested, sent to Philadelphia to trial and released after pardons by Washington. "

Lame. George Washington was himself a militia leader long before there was an America or American laws. Militia have existed throughout history. Most third graders should know that. What kind of force do you think opposed the militia Washington called up? Historically militia have fought far more battles than regular government troops. Quite often there were militia on both sides of a conflict. Andrew Jackson kicked serious British ass during the Battle of New Orleans during the War of 1812 and also had to kick Indian and Spanish ass just to get to them. All with a force that was almost entirely militia. And the British were considered the best troops in the world having just defeated Napoleon at Waterloo.
 

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The United States constitution clearly states that a "States militia must be well regulated and maintained." A weapon of a "States militia" is an assault rifle. Any ban would violate the United States constitution.

The National Guard has many assault rifles and many other cool weapons. They are the State Militias, who were always ultimately under the command of the CiC. Not the private gun clubs.

"A well regulated Militia," means trained in the art of war.

A "militia" is comprised of civilians whom are NOT under the command of government. We all learned that by third grade...you didn't?

That is known as a private militia, and all 50 states have laws making them illegal.
Untrue. The Constitution makes them legal in all 50 States. You are dreaming.
 

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They eventually want to confiscate all rifles and handguns from all citizens somewhere down the road.

And I want an Angel on a Gold Chain that I can ride to the Stars, but that ain't happening either!

The UN has no military to carry out such a dream.
The United States constitution clearly states that a "States militia must be well regulated and maintained." A weapon of a "States militia" is an assault rifle. Any ban would violate the United States constitution.

The National Guard has many assault rifles and many other cool weapons. They are the State Militias, who were always ultimately under the command of the CiC. Not the private gun clubs.

"A well regulated Militia," means trained in the art of war.

A "militia" is comprised of civilians whom are NOT under the command of government. We all learned that by third grade...you didn't?

That is known as a private militia, and all 50 states have laws making them illegal.
Untrue. The Constitution makes them legal in all 50 States. You are dreaming.

The constitution make sewing clubs for Grandma legal too. Gun Clubs are free to call themselves militia's but they have no legal authority to act as part of the US military chain of command.
 

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You all know where the U.S. government , and many Politicians are headed. They eventually want to confiscate all rifles and handguns from all citizens somewhere down the road. As part of the United Nations one world government takeover of the entire Earth.New World Order. This is what the Gun control people , and groups won't tell you.
This is a lie.

No it isn't. That's why the new anti-gun laws are going through Congress as we speak. Registration, registration will be public information, etc.
Another lie.

It's right here in HR 127:

First, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives must establish (1) a licensing system for the possession of firearms or ammunition, and (2) a registration system for firearms.

In addition, the Department of Justice (DOJ) must establish and maintain a publicly available database of all registered firearms.


Your Democrat handlers are lying to you.

Clayton is consistent. He'd be perfectly fine with requiring people to register and pay a fee for freedom of speech, protection from warrantless searches of his personal property or having to register to get protection for his religion. Right Clayton?

Wow, if everyone scrambled all Constitutional amendments like you do, this country would be a total mess.

The First Amendment is the First Amendment.

The Second Amendment is the Second Amendment.

They are two completely separate Amendments. This discussion is about the Second Amendment.

Despite your paranoid delusions!

Richard: Cmon kaz, stop talking about my double standards!

My point is about the second amendment. When we change amendment, the giant screeching sound is your standard changing.

When you want something, the Constitution is a sledge hammer. When you don't, the Constitution is toilet paper
Sorry Kaz, Richie is schooling your ass. It’s fun to watch

Wow, another leftist endorsing double standards. Who saw that coming? I mean EVERYBODY ...

LOL
Don’t lie, I didn’t endorse double standards I endorsed Richie schooling your ass

You endorsed Richard endorsing double standards, liar. It's what leftists do, you lie about everything all the time. You're fascists and you're tired of being held to any standard, particularly your own
 

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They eventually want to confiscate all rifles and handguns from all citizens somewhere down the road.

And I want an Angel on a Gold Chain that I can ride to the Stars, but that ain't happening either!

The UN has no military to carry out such a dream.
The United States constitution clearly states that a "States militia must be well regulated and maintained." A weapon of a "States militia" is an assault rifle. Any ban would violate the United States constitution.

The National Guard has many assault rifles and many other cool weapons. They are the State Militias, who were always ultimately under the command of the CiC. Not the private gun clubs.

"A well regulated Militia," means trained in the art of war.

A "militia" is comprised of civilians whom are NOT under the command of government. We all learned that by third grade...you didn't?

That is known as a private militia, and all 50 states have laws making them illegal.
Untrue. The Constitution makes them legal in all 50 States. You are dreaming.

The constitution make sewing clubs for Grandma legal too. Gun Clubs are free to call themselves militia's but they have no legal authority to act as part of the US military chain of command.

Again, government educated failure, militias are an explanation for the second amendment, not a limitation on it.

You'd know that if you could read
 

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