Assault Weapons Ban would be unconstitutional. "A State Militia must be maintained and well regulated"

[ColonelAngus]

Lets get rid of the etire Bill of Rights....or you could just go to a nation without a Bill of Rights....

 

[BULLDOG]

STUPID FUCK. The 2A refers to a right of the PEOPLE, free and clear of the government, to carry and bear arms against the GOVERNMENT

On August 7, 1794, President Washington issued a proclamation, calling out the militia and ordering the disaffected westerners to return to their homes. Washington's order mobilized an army of approximately 13,000 — as large as the one that had defeated the British — under the command of General Harry Lee, the then-Governor of Virginia and father of Robert E. Lee. Washington himself, in a show of presidential authority, set out at the head of the troops to suppress the uprising. This was the first use of the Militia Law of 1792 setting a precedent for the use of the militia to "execute the laws of the union, (and) suppress insurrections," asserting the right of the national government to enforce order in one state with troops raised in other states. Even more importantly, it was the first test of power of the new federal government, establishing its primacy in disputes with individual states. In the end, a dozen or so men were arrested, sent to Philadelphia to trial and released after pardons by Washington.

Stupid fuck.

Yes, we all know you are a stupid fuck. That "STUPID FUCK" tattoo on your forehead, and all the stupid fuck posts that you make have clearly demonstrated that. No need to just randomly identify yourself as you did in #20

 

[BlindBoo]

The United States constitution clearly states that a "States militia must be well regulated and maintained." A weapon of a "States militia" is an assault rifle. Any ban would violate the United States constitution.

The National Guard has many assault rifles and many other cool weapons. They are the State Militias, who were always ultimately under the command of the CiC. Not the private gun clubs.

"A well regulated Militia," means trained in the art of war.

“The People” is confusing to you?

Nope. At the time it was mostly white male property owners who were required to join their local Militia and most had to furnish their own weapons.

Too fucking bad. 2A Isnt going anywhere.

What other amendments do you think should be abolished? 1st?

Doesn't change the fact that the militias were under the command of the President, and were not considered a check against the Government of the People.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Every year, 115,551 people are shot. 38,826 people die from gun violence. 14,062 are murdered. 76,725 people survive gunshot injuries.

Illicit drug use is – directly and indirectly – responsible for over 750,000 deaths per year.

 

[BlindBoo]

STUPID FUCK. The 2A refers to a right of the PEOPLE, free and clear of the government, to carry and bear arms against the GOVERNMENT

On August 7, 1794, President Washington issued a proclamation, calling out the militia and ordering the disaffected westerners to return to their homes. Washington's order mobilized an army of approximately 13,000 — as large as the one that had defeated the British — under the command of General Harry Lee, the then-Governor of Virginia and father of Robert E. Lee. Washington himself, in a show of presidential authority, set out at the head of the troops to suppress the uprising. This was the first use of the Militia Law of 1792 setting a precedent for the use of the militia to "execute the laws of the union, (and) suppress insurrections," asserting the right of the national government to enforce order in one state with troops raised in other states. Even more importantly, it was the first test of power of the new federal government, establishing its primacy in disputes with individual states. In the end, a dozen or so men were arrested, sent to Philadelphia to trial and released after pardons by Washington.

Stupid fuck.

Yes, we all know you are a stupid fuck. That "STUPID FUCK" tattoo on your forehead, and all the stupid fuck posts that you make have clearly demonstrated that. No need to just randomly identify yourself as you did in #20

I love toobie, he makes me laugh.

 

[occupied]

Why are all the right's gun arguments like bad movie plots? Just say you like having guns and shooting guns and that they make you feel safe. Kind of lacks the punch of your wild predictions of government tyranny, invasions of zombie-like urbanites invading suburbia and civil wars. I'm not in favor of most kinds of bans because they would not work but I'll be damned if I'm on the same side of this issue with people who live in fantasy land. Is just being real not a good enough argument in the face of our astounding gun violence death toll?

 

[toobfreak]

STUPID FUCK. The 2A refers to a right of the PEOPLE, free and clear of the government, to carry and bear arms against the GOVERNMENT

On August 7, 1794, President Washington issued a proclamation, calling out the militia and ordering the disaffected westerners to return to their homes. Washington's order mobilized an army of approximately 13,000 — as large as the one that had defeated the British — under the command of General Harry Lee, the then-Governor of Virginia and father of Robert E. Lee. Washington himself, in a show of presidential authority, set out at the head of the troops to suppress the uprising. This was the first use of the Militia Law of 1792 setting a precedent for the use of the militia to "execute the laws of the union, (and) suppress insurrections," asserting the right of the national government to enforce order in one state with troops raised in other states. Even more importantly, it was the first test of power of the new federal government, establishing its primacy in disputes with individual states. In the end, a dozen or so men were arrested, sent to Philadelphia to trial and released after pardons by Washington.

Stupid fuck.

Yes, we all know you are a stupid fuck. That "STUPID FUCK" tattoo on your forehead, and all the stupid fuck posts that you make have clearly demonstrated that. No need to just randomly identify yourself as you did in #20

I love toobie, he makes me laugh.

Stupid fucks, trolls and shitheads, the left all.

 

[BULLDOG]

STUPID FUCK. The 2A refers to a right of the PEOPLE, free and clear of the government, to carry and bear arms against the GOVERNMENT

On August 7, 1794, President Washington issued a proclamation, calling out the militia and ordering the disaffected westerners to return to their homes. Washington's order mobilized an army of approximately 13,000 — as large as the one that had defeated the British — under the command of General Harry Lee, the then-Governor of Virginia and father of Robert E. Lee. Washington himself, in a show of presidential authority, set out at the head of the troops to suppress the uprising. This was the first use of the Militia Law of 1792 setting a precedent for the use of the militia to "execute the laws of the union, (and) suppress insurrections," asserting the right of the national government to enforce order in one state with troops raised in other states. Even more importantly, it was the first test of power of the new federal government, establishing its primacy in disputes with individual states. In the end, a dozen or so men were arrested, sent to Philadelphia to trial and released after pardons by Washington.

Stupid fuck.

Yes, we all know you are a stupid fuck. That "STUPID FUCK" tattoo on your forehead, and all the stupid fuck posts that you make have clearly demonstrated that. No need to just randomly identify yourself as you did in #20

I love toobie, he makes me laugh.

Nothing like watching an idiot slip on a banana peel to bring on the laughter. He never disappoints.

 

[22lcidw]

An Assault weapons ban would take this weapon away from the state citizens, thus negating the right to organize a states militia.

No. The state retains the right to form a state militia, and to regulate it. That is commonly known as the State Guard. It is under the authority of state government, and can not be legally formed by random citizens usurping that authority. You and your buddies can't form a legal state militia just because you bought some guns and camo, and want to.

We need government. you love the strong central government. When it is on your side. And that is all you know. We do not trust the strong central government. And in certain states we see the results of the same thinking that causes us not to trust it.

 

[BULLDOG]

STUPID FUCK. The 2A refers to a right of the PEOPLE, free and clear of the government, to carry and bear arms against the GOVERNMENT

On August 7, 1794, President Washington issued a proclamation, calling out the militia and ordering the disaffected westerners to return to their homes. Washington's order mobilized an army of approximately 13,000 — as large as the one that had defeated the British — under the command of General Harry Lee, the then-Governor of Virginia and father of Robert E. Lee. Washington himself, in a show of presidential authority, set out at the head of the troops to suppress the uprising. This was the first use of the Militia Law of 1792 setting a precedent for the use of the militia to "execute the laws of the union, (and) suppress insurrections," asserting the right of the national government to enforce order in one state with troops raised in other states. Even more importantly, it was the first test of power of the new federal government, establishing its primacy in disputes with individual states. In the end, a dozen or so men were arrested, sent to Philadelphia to trial and released after pardons by Washington.

Stupid fuck.

Yes, we all know you are a stupid fuck. That "STUPID FUCK" tattoo on your forehead, and all the stupid fuck posts that you make have clearly demonstrated that. No need to just randomly identify yourself as you did in #20

I love toobie, he makes me laugh.

Stupid fucks, trolls and shitheads, the left all.

Not my fault if you make it so easy to laugh at you.

 

[BULLDOG]

An Assault weapons ban would take this weapon away from the state citizens, thus negating the right to organize a states militia.

No. The state retains the right to form a state militia, and to regulate it. That is commonly known as the State Guard. It is under the authority of state government, and can not be legally formed by random citizens usurping that authority. You and your buddies can't form a legal state militia just because you bought some guns and camo, and want to.

We need government. you love the strong central government. When it is on your side. And that is all you know. We do not trust the strong central government. And in certain states we see the results of the same thinking that causes us not to trust it.

Got it. Your conspiracy theories make it so much easier for you to believe more conspiracy theories. That certainly matches your silly posts.

 

[Winston]

The United States constitution clearly states that a "States militia must be well regulated and maintained." A weapon of a "States militia" is an assault rifle. Any ban would violate the United States constitution.

The National Guard has many assault rifles and many other cool weapons. They are the State Militias, who were always ultimately under the command of the CiC. Not the private gun clubs.

"A well regulated Militia," means trained in the art of war.

A "militia" is comprised of civilians whom are NOT under the command of government. We all learned that by third grade...you didn't?

LOL. Well you do display a third grade level education. Most people kept learning after that. Here you go.

"On August 7, 1794, President Washington issued a proclamation, calling out the militia and ordering the disaffected westerners to return to their homes. Washington's order mobilized an army of approximately 13,000 — as large as the one that had defeated the British — under the command of General Harry Lee, the then-Governor of Virginia and father of Robert E. Lee. Washington himself, in a show of presidential authority, set out at the head of the troops to suppress the uprising. This was the first use of the Militia Law of 1792 setting a precedent for the use of the militia to "execute the laws of the union, (and) suppress insurrections," asserting the right of the national government to enforce order in one state with troops raised in other states. Even more importantly, it was the first test of power of the new federal government, establishing its primacy in disputes with individual states. In the end, a dozen or so men were arrested, sent to Philadelphia to trial and released after pardons by Washington. "

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Ah yes, the Whiskey Rebellion. If you ask me, the beginning of the damn end. Here is the deal. During the Revolutionary War state militias, yeah, ain't that ironic, state militias could waltz up on your farm and kill half a dozen of your cows to feed their troops. Or they could raid your fields, run off with a bunch of green corn and make the troops sick as shit, which happened right after the battle of King's Mountain as they were marching off with prisoners to hang. Great story, Biggerstaff fields, but another time perhaps.

But anyways, after they took your property they would write you an IOU. They were called continental scripts and you can still buy some of them on Ebay today. After the war ended, well the country was a damn mess. Crops were scarce because either the militias had waltzed off wth ith all the corn, or there was no one to work the fields because they were out fighting British and Germans, oh, and Loyalists. Actually, there was exactly one British soldier at Kings Mountain, Fergunson. Another story, another time.

Now the farmers, the people, they were hungry. They needed food, they needed seeds. Hell, they even needed cows. But all they had was this shitty ass piece of paper given to them by some numbnut militia colonel, As if the broke states were going to be able to honor that IOU. Now people like George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, John Adams, oh, and Robert Morris who actually financed the damn Continental Army, sent agents out into the lands to purchase those continental scripts for pennies on the damn dollar. But hey, at least those farmers could feed their kids.

But then there was the second Continental Congress. And we got ourselves a Constitution. But then it was bend over you American people and you don't get any vaseline. One of the first acts of Congress was to pass a law that paid for those scripts, dollar for dollar. Those "speculators", like Washington and Hamilton, made out like freaking bandits. I mean we are talking returns of ten times their initial investment. And to add insult to injury, well you know how they raised the money to pay for that shit. With a damn tax on whiskey, which is how the farmers freakin stored their corn. And it was a per gallon tax, unless you made a few thousand gallons, then you only had to pay a flat fee. Know the only person that made a few thousand gallons. GEORGE WASHINGTON.

Look, the American people been getting screwed since before the damn ink dried on the Constitution. And sadly, that little ruckus we had in the middle of the 19th century only empowered their damn ass. You guys can piss and moan about the second amendment all you want. You still getting screwed, learn to deal with it.

 

[ColonelAngus]

You psycho statists are straight up evil.

 

[BlindBoo]

STUPID FUCK. The 2A refers to a right of the PEOPLE, free and clear of the government, to carry and bear arms against the GOVERNMENT

On August 7, 1794, President Washington issued a proclamation, calling out the militia and ordering the disaffected westerners to return to their homes. Washington's order mobilized an army of approximately 13,000 — as large as the one that had defeated the British — under the command of General Harry Lee, the then-Governor of Virginia and father of Robert E. Lee. Washington himself, in a show of presidential authority, set out at the head of the troops to suppress the uprising. This was the first use of the Militia Law of 1792 setting a precedent for the use of the militia to "execute the laws of the union, (and) suppress insurrections," asserting the right of the national government to enforce order in one state with troops raised in other states. Even more importantly, it was the first test of power of the new federal government, establishing its primacy in disputes with individual states. In the end, a dozen or so men were arrested, sent to Philadelphia to trial and released after pardons by Washington.

Stupid fuck.

Yes, we all know you are a stupid fuck. That "STUPID FUCK" tattoo on your forehead, and all the stupid fuck posts that you make have clearly demonstrated that. No need to just randomly identify yourself as you did in #20

I love toobie, he makes me laugh.

Stupid fucks, trolls and shitheads, the left all.

So what was your favorite part of our history when President Washington Commanded a State Militia?

Did it make you fell like you're a "Dumb Fuck"?

 

[LuckyDuck]

The United States constitution clearly states that a "States militia must be well regulated and maintained." A weapon of a "States militia" is an assault rifle. Any ban would violate the United States constitution.

Nowhere in the Second Amendment does that short paragraph say a, "State Militia." It does say that, "A well-regulated" militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." It does not state that the militia is formed by the state, only that a well-regulated militia can be formed from the civilian population, using their own weapons, to protect that state from an enemy.
The founders recognized that the major players that helped the Continental Army win the war against England, were the "private" citizens who formed "their own regulated militias" and, who defended their states, while on occasions working in conjunction with the Continental Army. But, they were not officially state militias, only private citizens that formed groups using guerilla tactics to beat the British Army.

 

[Winston]

The United States constitution clearly states that a "States militia must be well regulated and maintained." A weapon of a "States militia" is an assault rifle. Any ban would violate the United States constitution.

Nowhere in the Second Amendment does that short paragraph say a, "State Militia." It does say that, "A well-regulated" militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." It does not state that the militia is formed by the state, only that a well-regulated militia can be formed from the civilian population, using their own weapons, to protect that state from an enemy.
The founders recognized that the major players that helped the Continental Army win the war against England, were the "private" citizens who formed "their own regulated militias" and, who defended their states, while on occasions working in conjunction with the Continental Army. But, they were not officially state militias, only private citizens that formed groups using guerilla tactics to beat the British Army.

Seriously? The state militias were woefully inadequate. They sure as hell were not "major players". I mean I will stand up for the North Carolina militia, and I will admit that Morgan's rifleman were drawn in a large part from the state militias of Virginia and North Carolina. I will even grant the Swamp Fox some credit. Which the movie "The Patriot" was pretty much a combination of Morgan and the Swamp Fox. But no, the victory in the American Revolution is due to the Continental Army, which was whipped into shape during the winter at Valley Forge by a flaming ass gay dude.

 

[Leviticus]

The National guard performs militia duties nowadays the regulated militia that served during the civil war and revolutionary war were abolished in 1901.

 

[Lysistrata]

The only legitimate militia is the National Guard, which is under the command of government. Only a duly-elected government has the authority to establish the regulations necessary for a "well regulated" militia and maintain it well. It is impossible for any other group, gang, club, whatever, to establish legitimacy because it cannot show that it has the approval of the state's citizens to represent them. It cannot be self-appointed or self-authenticating.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The United States constitution clearly states that a "States militia must be well regulated and maintained." A weapon of a "States militia" is an assault rifle. Any ban would violate the United States constitution.

Well form some damn militias and pass regulations on them

Fine.

I am a militia of 1 and I need my machine guns.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The only way to keep government in check is machine guns or Valhalla!!!

We will get them shortly. Wait and see.