Ashlii Babbitt Thread

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The problem is in the actions you attempt to portray as “appears to be dangerous”.

With Babbitt, the mob had quite clearly demonstrated themselves to be aggressively violent having already caused substantial damage to the capitol and injuring many officers. They had made it quite clear their intention to harm members of congress who were behind those doors.

With the McCloskeys, the people were walking down the street.

Trying to equate these two situations is delusional.
Either they were BOTH dangerous mobs, or they were NOT. A mob of angry people is a mob of angry people.

The McCloskeys were standing on their own property. They didn't shoot anybody.

So, at a bare-ass minimum NEITHER should have been prosecuted. Won't you agree?
 
The problem is in the actions you attempt to portray as “appears to be dangerous”.

With Babbitt, the mob had quite clearly demonstrated themselves to be aggressively violent having already caused substantial damage to the capitol and injuring many officers. They had made it quite clear their intention to harm members of congress who were behind those doors.

With the McCloskeys, the people were walking down the street.

Trying to equate these two situations is delusional.

They would have shot someone had they made it into the White House and Trump had not yet been escorted to safety,
 
So, in this video, a mob of people (yelling and banging drums, giving reason for residents to be concerned about their safety) come into a gated community. McCloskey is standing on his porch holding a rifle (not illegal) because he is concerned that the mob will get out of control (like so many other had in previous weeks). They are standing right on the edge of his property line and he is yelling at them to get back.

They were prosecuted and they didn't even shoot anybody.

Do you need me to go into further detail about the Capital shooting or do you get the point yet?

LOL

Yeah, you're way short on detail.

No one in that mob appeared dangerous. More saliently, no one in that mob was violent. No one in that mob went onto the McClowskey's property. No one in that mob threatened the McClowskeys until the McClowskey's threatened the mob with firearms. And the McClowskey's weren't charged just for holding their firearms on their property, which as you point out, they're legally allowed to do -- they were charged because they pointed their guns at the mob, which is an assault in Missouri. No one in the Mob assaulted the McClowskeys.

But I gotta admit, you claiming banging on a drum is threatening. You must think John Bonham is real threatening, huh? :lmao:

Even funnier, you citing that as a double standard.

At any rate, hopefully, now you see why you looked like such a schmuck, posting, McClowskey! I win!!!
 
Either they were BOTH dangerous mobs, or they were NOT. A mob of angry people is a mob of angry people.
This is just so incredibly stupid.

No. They’re not the same. You can’t wave tour hands and equate a group of people walking down the street with a group of people who committed numerous acts of violence.

The law requires people be rational. You are delusional for ignoring these very real and very significant differences.
 
I figured you were this stupid.

Many of you have repeatedly argued that Byrd was justified in shooting and killing Ashlii (an UNARMED 130 lbs woman) without warning, because she was part of a mob that appeared to be dangerous. No consequences. Barely an investigation....by Byrd's people.

In the McCloskey scenario, the mere brandishing of a firearm to deter a mob that appeared to dangerous was cause for prosecution.

If you can't make the connection now, you dumber than I thought.

Pointing out she was unarmed is beyond stupid. It mattered not if she was physically armed or not. She was part of a violent mob. A violent mob which included some who were beating the shit out of police in the lower west terrace tunnel, nearly killing a cop. The group she was with forced police to step aside so they could violently beat the doors and windows down to gain access to the House chamber where some members of Congress were still inside. That mob was the threat and Benedict Babbitt was a part of it. Police were well within their right to use lethal force to keep that mob out. Mattered not who was armed or not. Ashes Targetpractice just so happened to be the first idiot to breach their barricade. They would have shot even more had any others attempted that idiocy; but fortunately, no one else was that stupid once they realized the police weren't fucking around with them.
 
A mob of angry people is a mob of angry people.
Neither was an angry mob. The Trump idiots with guns witnessed peaceful protesters walking past their property showing no intent to do harm to life limb or property. Officer Byrd was in a defensive position performing his duty against a group of Trump supporters attacking members of Congress who at that moment were battering down a barricaded doorway known to the attackers as a line they were warned by authorities they best not cross.
 
Pointing out she was unarmed is beyond stupid. It mattered not if she was physically armed or not. She was part of a violent mob.
McCloskeys were defending THEIR HOME against a violent mob.
A violent mob which included some who were beating the shit out of police in the lower west terrace tunnel, nearly killing a cop.
BLM protesters had already murderer people, including police officers and they were banging drums and approaching McCoskeys' house.
The group she was with forced police to step aside so they could violently beat the doors and windows down to gain access to the House chamber where some members of Congress were still inside.
why didn't the police shoot then? Why "step aside"? Because it's all bullshit? Yes.

McCloskeys were defending THEIR HOME and shot NO ONE, and were STILL prosecuted.
Police were well within their right to use lethal force to keep that mob out.
McCloskeys were well withing their right to use the mere threat of deadly force to keep the mod OUT OF THEIR FUCKING HOME!!!
Ashes Targetpractice just so happened to be the first idiot to breach their barricade.
and NOBODY got shot by the McCoskeys


THE

ONLY

DIFFERENCE

IS

MCCLOSKEYS

SHOT

NO ONE

and they were prosecuted.....

:dunno:
 
Either they were BOTH dangerous mobs, or they were NOT. A mob of angry people is a mob of angry people.

The McCloskeys were standing on their own property. They didn't shoot anybody.

So, at a bare-ass minimum NEITHER should have been prosecuted. Won't you agree?

I would agree if I was as retarded as you.

One group was violent, nearly killing a cop, threatening the lives of lawmakers and smashing at doors and windows to get at them.

The other group was not violent and walking down a street, albeit, a private street. But they were banging a drum.

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McCloskeys were defending THEIR HOME against a violent mob.

BLM protesters had already murderer people, including police officers and they were banging drums and approaching McCoskeys' house.

why didn't the police shoot then? Why "step aside"? Because it's all bullshit? Yes.

McCloskeys were defending THEIR HOME and shot NO ONE, and were STILL prosecuted.

McCloskeys were well withing their right to use the mere threat of deadly force to keep the mod OUT OF THEIR FUCKING HOME!!!

and NOBODY got shot by the McCoskeys


THE

ONLY

DIFFERENCE

IS

MCCLOSKEYS

SHOT

NO ONE

and they were prosecuted.....

:dunno:

Unlike the Capitol, their home was never invaded. They were never on, no less in, the McClowskey's property. Unlike the mob who threatened the life of the VPOTUS, the McClowskey mob threatened no one until they were threatened. The cop used lethal force to protect lawmakers, which was his job. The McClowskeys committed an aggravated assault..

Yeah, exactly the same. :icon_rolleyes:
 
Targetpractice just so happened to be the first idiot to breach their barricade.
BBBBBBUUTTT BUUUTTT McLoskies have a right to fear for their lives if two or more black people walk past their house.

Still Don’t see what gun grasping fear of black people has to do with the violent assault on Congress for Trump to stop the peaceful transfer of power from Trump to Biden for which DumbAshli Babbitt took a bullet for the Orange Jesus.
 
BBBBBBUUTTT BUUUTTT McLoskies have a right to fear for their lives if two or more black people walk past their house.

Still Don’t see what gun grasping fear of black people has to do with the violent assault on Congress for Trump to stop the peaceful transfer of power from Trump to Biden for which DumbAshli Babbitt took a bullet for the Orange Jesus.

What it has to do with it in this case can be summed up in one word -- desperation.

And by the way, their desperation reveals they know the people they're attacking are innocent. They're just desperately seeking for something on the left they can equate it to in order to use a whataboutism to justify their feigned outrage.
 
What it has to do with it in this case can be summed up in one word -- desperation.
I agree, but I’m beginning to think that Trump voters have become so committed to irrationality and unrestrained absurdity as the only means of determining true reality in their lives that the concept of desperation is lost to them. They can’t be desperate since they are all convinced that their absurdity is the only true reality.
 
Many of you have repeatedly argued that Byrd was justified in shooting and killing Ashlii (an UNARMED 130 lbs woman) without warning, because she was part of a mob that appeared to be dangerous. No consequences. Barely an investigation....by Byrd's people.
I ARGUE that Byrd was justified in shooting and killing Ashlii Babbitt because

#1 she was part of a mob that appeared to be dangerous.
#2 she was already engaged in violent criminal insurrection activities after entering the Capitol with a backpack without moving through a security checkpoint.
#3 when she and other Trump insurrectionists reached a barricaded doorway near the House Chamber she did not see it as a warning that police were attempting to stop Trump’s assault on Congress at that point. She joined the mob in breaking down the barricade and she was the first to try to crawl through a broken window.

So a cop shot the idiot and the other idiots finally figured out what a police barricade means.

Still not seeing a McClosky connection except that Trump voters are idiots that generally don’t like black people who think their lives matter.
 
Either they were BOTH dangerous mobs, or they were NOT. A mob of angry people is a mob of angry people.

The McCloskeys were standing on their own property. They didn't shoot anybody.

So, at a bare-ass minimum NEITHER should have been prosecuted. Won't you agree?
Apparently menacing people with a gun is illegal.

Oh well
 
McCloskeys were defending THEIR HOME against a violent mob.
They were not defending their home against a violent mob. When black people walk past your property they are not attacking your property. If you are afraid of black people stay inside of your home. If you still get scared lock and load, but stay down, don’t brandish your guns in broad daylight. If you really think black people are going to attack and take your stuff, don’t stand out in the open where they can shoot you.
 
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