As the War that “Will be over in a week or two” enters it’s 3rd Month, How much longer will US troops be there?

[kyzr]

The reason that Trump has been farting around with Iran and doing his too-familiar TACO routine is that he's waiting for it to explode.

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“If they don’t get their oil moving, ​

their whole oil infrastructure is going to explode!"​

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He said ... that Iranian oil pipelines “both mechanically and in the earth” would “explode from within” if the country did not start exporting through the strait soon. “They(?) say they only have about three days left before that happens. And when it explodes, you can never rebuild it the way it was,” Trump said.​

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Despite Trump’s predictions of impending disaster, energy industry officials and analysts warn that scenario is unlikely. Iran has weeks or even months before it risks running out of places to store oil, experts told The Washington Post.​

The oil pipelines won't physically "explode".

What Trump means is that oil wells need to be pumped to keep their capacities.

If Iran can't ship oil, and their oil storage tanks are full, Iran will start capping wells hurting their current and future oil income.

That will cause Iran's oil infrastructure to "explode" from lack of revenue a total mess, a disaster for Iran.

 

[kyzr]

Why Trump doesn't want to force Brazil to surrender their enriched Uranium? Why he wants to sell weapon-grade enriched Uranium to Australia?

Trump apparently likes Brazil and Australia. Their girls are beautiful.

 

[kyzr]

So much in war, that Colombian money transfer from US are skyrocketing? All these wars are nothing but limitation of activity.

True. If Iran can't sell oil their economy collapses.

Iran is even lesser threat than Brazil.

Not true. Iranians are crazy.

Brazil has fissile material in much bigger amount. Highly likely, already weapon-grade.

Fine. Let it decay.

The US is threatening Brazil, and, sometimes, actually using military force to change regime in Brazil and/or to steal their property. Brazil has much more reasons to nuke the USA than Iran. Of course, in both cases they can't destroy US nuclear forces and prevent retaliation.

Link please. (MAD works for anyone dumb enough to nuke the US)

 

[Zavulon]

True. If Iran can't sell oil their economy collapses.

It's simply not true. They can ask Russia and/or China for money.

Not true. Iranians are crazy.

As if Brazilians or Americans or Russians or Chinamen are sane.

Fine. Let it decay.

Link please. (MAD works for anyone dumb enough to nuke the US)

It's not MAD, if one side can't destroy another side. And minor nuclear powers can't destroy major nuclear powers. MAD means "mutual" and "assured".

And to destroy 400 American Minuteman-III siloes any potential agressor should use at least 400 (better - 800) nukes. Only Russia can do it (under certain circumstances and after certain preparations).

 

[Zavulon]

Trump apparently likes Brazil and Australia. Their girls are beautiful.

So, it's not about nukes, it's about girls? Well. But it's not about Trump only. Previous presidents also "ignored" it.

 

[kyzr]

It's simply not true. They can ask Russia and/or China for money.

Without oil revenue Iran can't pay loans back, why would Russia or China burn money?

As if Brazilians or Americans or Russians or Chinese are sane.

Compared to Iran we are all sane.
Putin is the closest to the line, because he keeps sending young Russians to die in Ukraine for no reason.

It's not MAD, if one side can't destroy another side. And minor nuclear powers can't destroy major nuclear powers. MAD means "mutual" and "assured".

And to destroy 400 American Minuteman-III silos any potential aggressor should use at least 400 (better - 800) nukes. Only Russia can do it (under certain circumstances and after certain preparations).

Still a very bad idea. Our hardened silos are very strong.

 

[Matted Joybeard]

So you say you are not comfortable dealing with facts.

I say that in response to an AI generated post without any citations. If you're too lazy to post then I dunno.

@mods what if we all just posted AI output versus actual discussion? If that flies for a successful forum then the future is grim.

 

[schmidlap]

The oil pipelines won't physically "explode".

What Trump means is that oil wells need to be pumped to keep their capacities.

If Iran can't ship oil, and their oil storage tanks are full, Iran will start capping wells hurting their current and future oil income.

That will cause Iran's oil infrastructure to "explode" from lack of revenue a total mess, a disaster for Iran.

“If they don’t get their oil moving, their whole oil infrastructure is going to explode...” ​

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He said during an appearance on Fox News’s “The Sunday Briefing” this week that Iranian oil pipelines “both mechanically and in the earth” would “explode from within...”​

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Even if the country’s storage becomes full, there is disagreement about how much - if any - permanent damage would be caused. The skepticism that met Trump’s comments suggested Americans tired of paying more for gas and other products dependent on shipping through the strait shouldn’t expect a rapid end to the standoff between the United States and Iran.​

Trump said Iran’s oil pipelines will soon ‘explode.’ Experts doubt it

Despite Trump’s warning that oil backing up inside Iran would cause pipelines to “explode from within,” analysts say Iran still has plenty of capacity.

www.yahoo.com

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Approval of Military Action Against Iran | RealClearPolling

Approval of Military Action Against Iran | RealClearPolling

www.realclearpolling.com

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[toomuchtime_]

Or until Trump is impeached. Or until Iran actually acquire nuclear weapons.

You sound like the type of guy who buys a lot of lottery tickets.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Got a link for that? Sounds like a stretch.

Links Are Part of a Chain of Thought Control

We're lucky that the Spartans and Athenians had no links, and that John Sobieski and Prince Eugene had no links about these perpetual enemies of civilization. A link is the lint from raggedy brains.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

So how many years will we be over there? Will it be wrapped up by the time he oozes out of office?

If They're as Resistant as the Japanese Fanatics Were, You Know How That Ended

 

[kyzr]

“If they don’t get their oil moving, their whole oil infrastructure is going to explode...” ​

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He said during an appearance on Fox News’s “The Sunday Briefing” this week that Iranian oil pipelines “both mechanically and in the earth” would “explode from within...”​

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Even if the country’s storage becomes full, there is disagreement about how much - if any - permanent damage would be caused. The skepticism that met Trump’s comments suggested Americans tired of paying more for gas and other products dependent on shipping through the strait shouldn’t expect a rapid end to the standoff between the United States and Iran.​

Trump may be trying some psyop saying their pipes will explode.
Who knows what he means, maybe US bombs would make the pipes explode?
Iran knows that they will hit the wall eventually and lose capacity and revenue.
Tick-tock, Hormuz is closed and the US blockade is solid.
The EU will need to get jet fuel from somewhere.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The "pain" is still less that Biden's $5 gas. We're in a war over nuclear weapons, we need to endure some pain for national security. If you democrats win the mid-terms you can deal with Trump as you wish. Trump is being presidential looking at the big picture even though it is a political loser.

We do. Its how we win the war.

Iran not being allowed to sell oil helps Americans by winning the war.

I am being honest. We are at war with Iran over their nuclear weapons program.

That is a lie.
Iran has all of the enriched uranium needed to make 11 A-bombs in a week to 10-days.

Iran claimed to have enough uranium for 11 nuclear bombs, US envoy Witkoff says

Iranian officials told their US counterparts at crunch talks in Switzerland last week that the Islamic Republic possessed enough enriched material to build 11 nuclear bombs, President Trump’s…

nypost.com

“The 60% material, Sean, can be brought to 90%, that’s weapons-grade, in roughly one week, maybe 10 days at the outside. The 20% can be brought to weapons-grade inside of three to four weeks.”
“They were proud of it,” Witkoff went on. “They were proud that they had evaded all sorts of oversight protocols to get to a place where they could deliver 11 nuclear bombs.”

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff says Iran claimed it had enough enriched uranium to make 11 nuclear bombs

President Trump's special envoy Steve Witkoff told Fox News that Iranian negotiators said Iran had the "inalienable right to enrich all their nuclear fuel."

www.cbsnews.com

Status of Iran's nuclear facilities remain unclear as attacks continue

Some Democratic lawmakers said an administration briefing Tuesday provided few answers.

abcnews.com

Allah Oops!

We'll give them nukes in the Iranian fashion. Mushroom clouds look just like turbans.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I say that in response to an AI generated post without any citations. If you're too lazy to post then I dunno.

@mods what if we all just posted AI output versus actual discussion? If that flies for a successful forum then the future is grim.

Google AI is just a summary of everything on the Internet that relates to the question it is asked, so when I asked it how long would it take for Iran to produce weapons grade uranium before the US blew up all of Iran's enrichment centers, it looked everything relevant to my question on the Internet and summarized its findings.

It did the same thing when I asked it how long it would take for Iran to produce a nuclear warhead. Its answer was again a summary of everything on the Internet relevant to the question.

Google's AI is the most objective source of information you can find. It has no loyalties, no ideologies, no skin in the game. If you want to know what is going on, it is the best source of factual information you can find.

But then you aren't comfortable dealing with facts.