As the War that “Will be over in a week or two” enters it’s 3rd Month, How much longer will US troops be there?

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Plus he was immediately attacked politically and had to fight to get cabinet appointments.

Like any other president.

The other presidents weren't thin skinned, whiny little b***hes, though.

 

[Yarddog]

Like any other president.

The other presidents weren't thin skinned, whiny little b***hes, though.

Thin skinned ?? You mean when Democrats came up with Russia Gate , based on a novel by Hillary’s campaign team and took his words out of context after Charlottesville, to make half the country hate him as if he supported neo nazis
I don’t think any president in recent memory ever faced that

 

[kyzr]

And ayatollahs are not very different.

Believing in insane religious concepts is a form of insanity. Its self-induced not a malfunctioning brain.

It's for Jews and "Christian Zionists", who want to rebuild Israel and the Third Temple exactly because it will cause coming of fake from Christian point of view (and true from Jewish point of view) Messiah, and then - 2nd coming of Christ and destruction of ournworld.
Christians (significant part of them) believe that they should prevent it.

Its not happening now, so it doesn't matter. Actually Nostradamus said it doesn't happen.

Of course not. When we call our enemies Nazis we start to kill them, and it decrease their number. And we don't call people Nazis for no reason. We call them Nazis when they already started kill us. They grab their weapons and only then we call them Nazis and kill them.

Ukrainians defending Ukraine from invading Russians are not Nazis. You can call them Nazis, but they aren't.

It's simply not true. Back in WWII Americans were on our side.

We weren't hired by Russians as mercenaries to die fighting in Russia.
Mercenaries fight for money, and they don't fight when they are sure to die. They prefer easy money.

In few more years most of adult male Ukrainians (and may be, significant part of European) will die out.

There are 1 billion citizens in NATO countries, 450 million Europeans, and 143 million Russians, do the math.

As you did in Vietnam and Afghanistan?

There is a Law of Diminishing Returns. We're capitalists, we only bang our head against the wall so long, 20-years is too long.
Nation-Building is a noble but very stupid idea, nations are governed more by karma than by the best of intentions.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/lawofdiminishingmarginalreturn.asp

Law of Diminishing Marginal Returns: Definition, Example, Use in Economics​

 

[candycorn]

Not happening. We'll just "grind through" like we always do.

So much for a Making America Great Again.... It took what 16 months to go from MAGA to "grinding through". Pathetic.

 

[Zavulon]

Believing in insane religious concepts is a form of insanity. Its self-induced not a malfunctioning brain.

All religions are insane. And Shii Islam is no more insane than American "Zionism Christianity", Indian Shivaism, Chinese version of Communism, North Korean Juche, or Russian cult of Mother Wet Soil.

Its not happening now, so it doesn't matter. Actually Nostradamus said it doesn't happen.

I don't believe in Nostradamus prophesies, but we are not taling about my or yours personal belives. We are discussing belives of Jewish, American and Iranian back-room decision-makers. And most of them are cold-blooded and rational thinking bastards. They calculate risks, and they usually do it well, avoiding major damage for their countries and thinking about self-protection.
But if people allow clowns from political scene participate in decision-making, bringing their own irrational ideas - the situation becomes quite different.
I mean, if American "moderate Satanists" just commit their cabal meetings on some Epstein island with ritual rapings of minor girls and boys and commiting some human sacrifices and paying some money for Israel - it's just your own business. Nobody cares. But if they believe that they can sacrifice tens of millions of Americans to protect Israel and allow them to build the Third Temple, it means that deterrence ceased its existence and Russians have no other option but to nuke you preemptively.

Ukrainians defending Ukraine from invading Russians are not Nazis. You can call them Nazis, but they aren't.

Of course they are. In our own understanding of the word. And "Ukrainian Nazies type III" (in our understanding) are pretty same people who are called Nazies (aka White Supremacists) in traditional American understanding of the word.

We weren't hired by Russians as mercenaries to die fighting in Russia.

Yes, you were. Not directly, not for cash, but for the Bomb, that was created for you by Communist International, and for the place in the post-war world.

Mercenaries fight for money, and they don't fight when they are sure to die. They prefer easy money.

Everyone is fighting (or doing anything else) for money. Just some times there are miscalculations about how much one can earn, for what and with what risks.

There are 1 billion citizens in NATO countries, 450 million Europeans, and 143 million Russians, do the math.

Right now, with the current Russian superiority in artillery and UAVs, there is exchange 36 "Europeans" for one Russian. Do the math. And, of course, if there is an escalation to the open regional war level, we'll count not artillery, but nukes. And Russia has more than five thousand non-strategic nukes for few hundreds of European both strategic and non-strategic nukes.

There is a Law of Diminishing Returns. We're capitalists, we only bang our head against the wall so long, 20-years is too long.
Nation-Building is a noble but very stupid idea, nations are governed more by karma than by the best of intentions.

Nation-building is nice and very profitable idea, but one needs to do it right. Say, Russians created Czechs to destroy Austria-Hungary, and it was destroyed, and Austrians (and then Poles and Soviets) tryed to create Ukrainian nation, and it was hardly even half-succesful.
Americans didn't even actually tryed to build nations in Southern Vietnam or in Afghanistan, may be, because of lack of political reasons or because of the deeply rooted racism. I'm not sure that they were successful even in the building actually united American Nation.

 

[Zavulon]

Kuwait & Panama & Grenada & Venezuela …

How many of those countries successfully counter-attacked US bases in the region?

 

[luiza]

Time for Trumpfy to exit before Iran further humiliates the US Zionists .
The US is in danger of being relegated to League Two of the Conflict Championship .

Young Americans are growing up with everybody laughing at them .
No wonder they turn into sadistic baby adults .

 

[Zavulon]

What is even more important, if Iranians are actually insane, and they are ready to commit national-wide suicide by nuking the USA without really serious reasons, why do you think you can coerce them just by stealing some of their oil and money and/or bombing some of their sites?

 

[kyzr]

So much for a Making America Great Again.... It took what 16 months to go from MAGA to "grinding through". Pathetic.

"Pathetic" is your wanting Iran to have nuclear weapons and ICBMs.

 

[luiza]

"Pathetic" is your wanting Iran to have nuclear weapons and ICBMs.

But the most blood thirsty bunch of nincompoops in species history can?
Bankrupt America.

By what deranged piece of muddled thinking do you defend such a mad assertion ?
Rhetorical .

 

[Zavulon]

"Pathetic" is your wanting Iran to have nuclear weapons and ICBMs.

The progress is unstoppable. What reasonable people do - they keep their national progress faster than those of competitors. And yes, when you have destroyed the whole system of the world's safety, and turned it from the "Might of right" to "Might is right" - it's too late to whine about other countries preparing to defend them by themselves.

 

[kyzr]

All religions are insane. And Shi'a Islam is no more insane than American "Zionism Christianity", Indian Shivaism, Chinese version of Communism, North Korean Juche, or Russian cult of Mother Wet Soil.

I'll take your word for it. Some are just to control the populace, like in NK.

I don't believe in Nostradamus prophesies, but we are not talking about my or your personal beliefs. We are discussing beliefs of Jewish, American and Iranian back-room decision-makers. And most of them are cold-blooded and rational thinking bastards. They calculate risks, and they usually do it well, avoiding major damage for their countries and thinking about self-protection.
But if people allow clowns from political scene participate in decision-making, bringing their own irrational ideas...the situation becomes quite different.

Agree, "unknown unknowns" always mess things up.

I mean, if American "moderate Satanists" just commit their cabal meetings on some Epstein island with ritual raping of minor girls and boys and committing some human sacrifices and paying some money for Israel - it's just your own business. Nobody cares. But if they believe that they can sacrifice tens of millions of Americans to protect Israel and allow them to build the Third Temple, it means that deterrence ceased its existence and Russians have no other option but to nuke you preemptively.

Stop taking those hallucinogens. The US congress and US senate support Israel, BUT no one is "sacrificing millions" for Israel. There is no Third Temple, not yet anyway, so your "deterrence" is imaginary, and your launching nukes for no valid reason is nonsense, no one in Russia is that stupid.

The Blogs: Are we building the Third Temple?

Yes, Jews believe the Temple will one day be rebuilt – but contrary to viral conspiracies, Jewish tradition says we’re nowhere near building it now

blogs.timesofisrael.com

Of course they are. In our own understanding of the word. And "Ukrainian Nazis type III" (in our understanding) are pretty same people who are called Nazis (aka White Supremacists) in traditional American understanding of the word.

Ukrainians are not Nazis.

Yes, you were. Not directly, not for cash, but for the Bomb, that was created for you by Communist International, and for the place in the post-war world.

The Bomb was created in Tennessee under the Manhattan Project by the US military.
The Rosenbergs were both communists, they created nothing, they stole nuclear secrets for the Soviet Union.

Right now, with the current Russian superiority in artillery and UAVs, there is exchange 36 "Europeans" for one Russian. Do the math. And, of course, if there is an escalation to the open regional war level, we'll count not artillery, but nukes. And Russia has more than five thousand non-strategic nukes for few hundreds of European both strategic and non-strategic nukes.

Russia can't even conquer Ukraine. You're dreaming f you think they could defeat NATO, especially if NATO increases spending to upgrade their militaries.

Nation-building is nice and very profitable idea, but one needs to do it right. Say, Russians created Czechs to destroy Austria-Hungary, and it was destroyed, and Austrians (and then Poles and Soviets) tried to create Ukrainian nation, and it was hardly even half-successful.
Americans didn't even actually try to build nations in Southern Vietnam or in Afghanistan, may be, because of lack of political reasons or because of the deeply rooted racism. I'm not sure that they were successful even in the building actually united American Nation.

Its not racism. Its money and lives. That's why we're swearing off "nation-building".
Looks like we're doing a good job in Venezuela. Cuba looks like a tougher nut to crack.

 

[candycorn]

"Pathetic" is your wanting Iran to have nuclear weapons and ICBMs.

"Pathetic" is lying about both someone wanting Iran to have nukes AND thinking they were about to get them. Neither is true.

Wasn't their program obliterated in July of last year?

 

[Hafar1014]

"Pathetic" is lying about both someone wanting Iran to have nukes AND thinking they were about to get them. Neither is true.

Wasn't their program obliterated in July of last year?

Delayed

 

[Zavulon]

I'll take your word for it. Some are just to control the populace, like in NK.

First of all, religions can't "control a populace" by themselves. It's always people who control other people by different religions and ideologies. And, of course, they always control the whole nation. That's what makes a nation, after all. How many Americans believe in dollar? That dollars are something real and important?

Agree, "unknown unknowns" always mess things up.

Yep. But some choices are always better than others. Like, if the fight is unavoidable - it's much better to shoot first.

Stop taking those hallucinogens. The US congress and US senate support Israel, BUT no one is "sacrificing millions" for Israel.

May be, and pretty likely they will throw Israel to wolves as they did with other America's allies. But may be not. Let's play a game.
There is Red&Green revolution in France. And the first action French revolutionary islamists do - they nuke Israel. They did it a smart way, and now Israeli nuclear forces are totally eliminated and most of Israeli cities are destroyed (with more than 50% of Israel population dead), without any retaliation on France. All Arab states are ready to attack and genocide Israeli leftovers.
French nuclear forces are on high alert and ready to retaliate on the USA, if the USA attack them first. But they don't have any intention to attack the USA first. Their three submarines (now all in the sea) can't destroy US nuclear forces, so, their attack will be suicidal.

So, you have a choice: 1) Do nothing, and then France and local Arabs will genocide Jews in Israel. Then you'll try to make new alliances and restore diplomatic relationships with France (and Arabs) and use your ICBMs-in-being to make good deals with them.
2) You can nuke France (first of all try to wipe away their nuclear submarines), but you are practically sure that at least one French submarine will be able to launch its missiles and destroy at least ten US cities with many millions of killed Americans. But if you do it - you'll be able to save at least twenty percent of pre-war Israeli population.

There is no Third Temple, not yet anyway, so your "deterrence" is imaginary, and your launching nukes for no valid reason is nonsense, no one in Russia is that stupid.

There are a lot of people in Russia who are much, much stupidier.

Ukrainians are not Nazis.

Of course they are. Significant part of them.

The Bomb was created in Tennessee under the Manhattan Project by the US military.
The Rosenbergs were both communists, they created nothing, they stole nuclear secrets for the Soviet Union.

Soviet Intelligence has at least 157 high level regular spies in this project among scientists, plus many simpathizers. Almost all those guys were lefties and they were rooting for the Soviet Union (or, at least, Communistic International). "True Americans" hardly know what is atom at all.

Russia can't even conquer Ukraine. You're dreaming f you think they could defeat NATO, especially if NATO increases spending to upgrade their militaries.

Of course we can. Our goal is not conquer Ukraine. Our goal is de-nazification of Ukraine. Meaning killing all Nazies (in our understanding of the term). And it's much simpler to kill them in trenches than playing a foolish and expensive game of counter-guerilla war.

Its not racism. Its money and lives. That's why we're swearing off "nation-building".

Of course. Geo-strategy is all about money and lives.

Looks like we're doing a good job in Venezuela.

I don't think so. You just took the hostages and now trying to understand what you are going to do.

Cuba looks like a tougher nut to crack.