1.Gays represent .00000000000000000001 of the population but somehow they are some kind of threat.
So, answer the question. If the nation becoming gayer, america becoming "Better" and if so, please explain your reasoning.
Why does it have to be "better" as a result? Do you think it's "worse" that people are more comfortable being their true selves and more are coming out?
I think that ALL liberal complaints about such issues are false. That they only use such issues as weapons, when they are useful and don't really care about them. The way that feminists rallied around Bill Clinton, sexual harasser professional, is the archetypal example.
And as the "gaying" has been a part of that, yes, I certainly do think it is a bad thing, having been part of the division that is killing this country.
Do you have personal opinion on the OP question?
People being gay are "part of the division that is killing this country"?Come on, do you even hear yourself?
Yes, I have a personal opinion about the OP. I think he's a racist piece of shit. You like him though don't you?
1. The way the gay activists advanced their agenda is part of the division.
2. I asked you your opinion on the op question. It is a valid question. The way you answered a question I did not ask? That is you admitting that you know the change is for the worse.Ah, I see...fighting for rights causes “division”. You don’t see the people fighting against equal rights as divisive, just the people seeking them.
2. Since the OP is a serious racist piece of shit, his opening post has zero credibility.
1. I was clearly referencing their methods, not their goals. Try again.
2. It is taboo to admit that the change is a change for the worse. YOu know it is. I know it is. That you called the op wacist, is irrelevant to that.
1. What “method” do you object to? What “method” should people employ to fight for equality?
2. Well, I don’t believe that diversity makes us “worse”. The OP is a straight up racist. That’s all that needs be
1. The bit where they pretended that "marriage" was always about any random two people getting married. That turned anyone who did not immediately concede to their demands, into a "bigot" and a "phobe". That was divisive and unfair and made them part of the problem.
2. Interesting. Nothing in the op or my repeating of the question, limited it to "diversity" so, that was a dodge on your part.
I understand. We all know that the change is for the worse but it is taboo to say it. You, being a liberal, have a lot of self image invested in conforming with such.... dogma.
Saying "wacist", sorry, that does not make the case that teh change is for the good.
1. Sorry, but it is a simple fact that opposition to civil marriage equality comes from a bigoted place. It is true of opposition to interracial marriage and it is true of opposition to gay marriage.
2. The OP has ever made a valid point in his life. Everything he posts is either racist or xenophobic. There is no value in discussing anything that he posits.
1. Gay Marriage was an expansion of an existing institution. For such a change, those wanting the change should explain why it is a good thing. Instead, they just called anyone that did not agree a bigot. Thus, divisive.
2. So, explain why you can't explicitly answer the question. Cause, I think that is the point.
1. Those wanting the change DID explain, quite convincingly, why marriage equality was a "good thing". It's why the issue won in the judicial courts and the court of public opinion. The people that were called bigots...WERE bigots.
2. That's funny you thought there was a question in the OPs racist post. What is it you perceive this question to be? What do you want answered?
1. Nope. Their argument was that they already had the Right, not that the expansion of the institution was a good thing. Anyone that disagree was labeled a bigot. That was the whole point. To justify smearing and dividing out, and marginalizing your enemies. Hence division.
2. Weak dodge, based on fear of violating the taboo, as was my point.
1. It wasn’t the job of marriage equality proponents to make you feel good about them getting equal rights. Maybe you should be asking yourself why it made you feel bad. 99.9% of opposition comes from a bigoted place.
2.You don’t know what the question is either do you.
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1. I did not oppose gay marriage. I did oppose their tactics. Marriage was an institution between one man, one woman. They wanted to expand it. They should have made their case based on the merits of the change they wanted. Instead their primary goal seemed to be to smear their enemies and marginalize those who did not conform properly.
2. You are afraid to answer it, because you know that change is for the worse, but it is taboo to say that.