Who is getting hurt and what we are losing with what Trump and Musk are doing!

[playtime]

Take it out of the salary that you're not paying him. Quite a change from all the useless trips to Rehoboth Beach on your dime in addition to the salary that FJB stole for fifty years.

lol .... you do know every time donny plays golf at his ' resorts ' ... yer tax dollars - paying for his SS 's room & board goes straight into donny's pocket...... riiiiiight? ....

sucker.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Yesterday

Outrage after Elon Musk's SpaceX awarded $38M government contract

The federal government awarded Elon Musk's company a $38.85 million contract on Monday as the billionaire works to slash other contracts.

www.dailymail.co.uk

These go back a year, two, etc

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/elon-musks-us-department-defense-contracts-2025-02-11/

I mean, really, there's never been anything quite like Elon Musk. This is a guy whose companies just last year, in 2024, received $3.8 billion worth of federal government contracts and, in the last five years, $13 billion worth of contracts.

Elone Star

I oppose giving even a dime to the South Africans. However, Musk is no longer a South African. He's as American as apple pie.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Every action in life has benefits and consequences and the bottom line is that the goal is to always have more benefits than consequences, so the nation and its people can advance and not recede (two steps forward and 1 back rather than the opposite). This OP is going to discuss who is getting hurt and if the consequences of Trump's actions will end up being a plus or a minus for our country.

What Trump has been doing it trying to keep his campaign promises and as such, he is having a 53% approval rating for doing that. Keeping campaign promises is never a bad thing because it is what he was elected to do. Having said that, the way he does that and what the end result ends up being is what is going to make this nation better or worse.

Let me start with this one piece of common sense. Doing a lot of harm to others is never a plus.


In addition, his shutdown of USAID not only removes jobs from thousands of Americans but removes aid from the poor, sick, and needy in the world.

The plus to all of this is a reduction in spending. This hopefully means less debt but the way that Trump is doing it also means the following:

1) less Americans working
2) less taxes being collected
3) less people receiving the needed help to stay alive
4) more Americans needing help
5) more American companies losing the income they need to stay in business
6) more chaos and less order
7) allies becoming enemies
8) hate and payback feelings increased, bringing new problems

Yes, some of the promises made fulfill a need that the nation has but the way that Trump and Musk are going about fulfilling those promises is by using a sledgehammer approach and that is never a plus. Destroying things that have been in effect for decades and offer good and needed things but are full of "fat", is not the way to go. You trim the fat and put them on a diet but you don't blow them away and start from scratch.

That is a recipe for disaster

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My biggest accusation against Trump has always been incompetency. He has tried many things in life but with the exceptions of the things his father taught him from a young age (Real Estate and scamming people), Trump has been a disaster. He does not learn from his mistakes because he is a narcissist and always blames others for his own mistakes.

Musk has been a highly successful businessman all his life but it has always been in things he had an interest in and spent time learning about. Nonetheless, his ego has grown to such a degree that he is no longer spending the time to learn new things (such as what governing needs and requires, and what being in a business he has never been in, like social media needs and requires).

He bought Twitter in October of last year and made huge changes (the same he is trying to do now), and now 4 months later, Twitter (as X) has lost 79% in value, has lost most of its income (advertisers have left) and has lost viewership as the changes he made to the media itself, are not liked by the viewers.

Both of these people are making huge changes and are not thinking about the consequences of what they are doing and what possibly was a good thing is now looking like a disaster-in-the-making.

Amen

Nothing you are whining about being cut or frozen can be found in the Constitution. However if your State wants to tax the shit out of you to give money for all this crap the 10th Amendment is your friend.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Congress should represent the will of the people, but often don't.

I don't see why we can't punish them or at least give them a good scolding when they pass things we don't like.

The Constitution's Crowned Clowns

We, the people, should have veto power on all the lawmakers' self-serving decrees.

"We, the people." Remember that? That's all you need to know about who has the right to interpret the Constitution.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The people getting hurt are LEFTISTS on the DOLE! That is all anyone needs know, period, end of story-)

From Bureaus to Burritos

Deporting taco-stand workers will open up the kind of jobs the Feddies are qualified for.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

It has to be done legally and with the rules in place.

The Law-Lappers Make Up Those Rules for Their Own Protection

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

If "we" means doing it through the legal court system (which is something we ALL support), then say so! You could have said something like "we (the people that think they are doing something illegal) are going to take this to court and if they are found guilty, they will (not just should) be punished".

The Court Is Not "the Last Resort." It Is a Vacation Resort for Power-Freaks.

We've been there. We've done that. We got done in.

 

[Concerned American]

lol .... you do know every time donny plays golf at his ' resorts ' ... yer tax dollars - paying for his SS 's room & board goes straight into donny's pocket...... riiiiiight? ....

sucker.

Yeah, kind of like the secret service facility that you are paying for at the Clinton's Chappaqua NY residence. Every sitting and former POTUS has 24 hr. SS protection, Poindexter. Educate yourself.

 

[playtime]

Yeah, kind of like the secret service facility that you are paying for at the Clinton's Chappaqua NY residence.

ummmm .... no.

but nice try though.

Every sitting and former POTUS has 24 hr. SS protection, Poindexter. Educate yourself.

but only yer chosen one actually makes a profit off it.

sucker.....

 

[Concerned American]

ummmm .... no.

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but nice try though.



but only yer chosen one actually makes a profit off it.

sucker.....

Ummm, yeah, stupid. From your favorite Completely Nonsense News---

https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/politics/bill-clinton-hillary-clinton-new-house-chappaqua/index.html

 

[my2¢]

Government workers first. To be followed by those employed in corporate/private sector, the extent of which will be determined by the administration's policy on tariffs.

 

[berg80]

Elon Musk’s DOGE Posts Classified Data On Its New Website​

WASHINGTON — Elon Musk’s team at the so-called Department of Government Efficiency has posted classified information about the size and staff of a U.S. intelligence agency on its new website, raising bigger concerns about where Musk’s programmers got this information and what they are doing with it.

DOGE, which President Donald Trump created to purportedly root out waste in the federal government, launched its website on Wednesday night with a feature allowing users to “trace your tax dollars through the bureaucracy.” People can navigate through all federal agencies and offices for details about their head counts, budgets and average ages of employees.

Elon Musk’s DOGE Posts Classified Data On Its New Website

“People are scrambling” to see if their sensitive information has been accessed by Musk’s programmers, said one federal intelligence employee.

www.huffpost.com

Hey, no problem, if a Repub exposes classified info it's okay.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

If slapped, I slap back.

I do have to admit that you were on my short list of potential sissy fighters here

 

[Luckyone]

I do have to admit that you were on my short list of potential sissy fighters here

Sissy fighters?

You do know I was a cop when young and got shot at, don't you.

In addition, and because of my gambling addiction that I had, I went broke 5 times between 1981 and 1988 and got out of it each and every time, and once again and because of my divorce in 1998 (when I gave everything to my ex-wife), I was broke again and now I am set economically for life. You call that being a sissy?

 

[Oddball]

So we're now supposed to feel sorry for a tick when it gets pulled from our necks?

 

[Oddball]

Sissy fighters?

You do know I was a cop when young and got shot at, don't you.

In addition, and because of my gambling addiction that I had, I went broke 5 times between 1981 and 1988 and got out of it each and every time, and once again and because of my divorce in 1998 (when I gave everything to my ex-wife), I was broke again and now I am set economically for life. You call that being a sissy?

 

[Oddball]

Oh, won't anyone think of those poor, poor Warshton bureaucrat, who produces nothing and is showered with the largess of The State??...

Fuck my life.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

So we're now supposed to feel sorry for a tick when it gets pulled from our necks?

Well ,at least it is possible to pull off luckyone when he has his mouth on your jugular.


About 30 inches lower down, and an army of horses couldn't pull him off.

 

[Concerned American]

Sissy fighters?

You do know I was a cop when young and got shot at, don't you.

In addition, and because of my gambling addiction that I had, I went broke 5 times between 1981 and 1988 and got out of it each and every time, and once again and because of my divorce in 1998 (when I gave everything to my ex-wife), I was broke again and now I am set economically for life. You call that being a sissy?

Sounds like you were a poor candidate for a cop. Gambling addiction--most likely alcohol as well. Can't handle a close relationship. Difficulty handling money. SMFH, you're what gives cops a bad name. Did you slap your ex too?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I cant quit laughing.

Carville says Democrats are ‘overwhelmed’: ‘We are flooded in s—‘

Veteran strategist James Carville argued during a podcast episode that Democrats are “overwhelmed” and that he has not figured out a way the party can combat the flurry of news President Trump has made since returning to the White House. “Bannon is right. We are flooded in s— and we are...

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