Tariffs do not have any good solutions but there are some bad ones

Tariffs is a main topic of discussion these days, but it is difficult to fix them to where all the issues are resolved in a positive way!

Since 1994, we have had NAFTA and with Trump we changed it to USMCA. Both have had positives and negatives but neither has resolved the issue totally. I do not think that what Trump is doing is going to solve the issues either, as we will have a trade war (see it mentioned below) and likely inflation. Both will make things worse and not better. If we could not solve the issue for 30 years, Trump is not going to do it either. It has been one of those things that will always have positives and negatives no matter what and understanding that and living with it is likely the best choice.

AI Overview

Tariffs, taxes on imported goods, have both potential benefits and drawbacks. Positives include protecting domestic industries and generating revenue, while negatives include higher consumer prices and potential trade wars.

Potential Positives:
  • Protection of Domestic Industries:
    Tariffs can make imported goods more expensive, potentially encouraging consumers to buy domestically produced goods, thereby supporting local businesses and jobs.

  • Government Revenue:
    Tariffs are a source of revenue for governments, similar to other taxes.

  • National Security:
    Tariffs can be used to protect industries deemed crucial for national security, ensuring a domestic supply chain in case of disruptions.

  • Retaliation:
    Tariffs can be used to retaliate against countries that impose tariffs on a country's exports.
Potential Negatives:
  • Higher Prices for Consumers:
    Tariffs increase the cost of imported goods, which can lead to higher prices for consumers.

  • Trade Wars:
    Tariffs can lead to retaliatory tariffs from other countries, potentially escalating into trade wars that harm all involved.
  • Reduced Trade:
    Tariffs can reduce overall trade, as they make it more expensive to import and export goods.

  • Inefficiency:
    Tariffs can create inefficiencies in the economy, as they distort trade patterns and can lead to resource misallocation.

  • Impact on Businesses:
    Tariffs can negatively impact businesses that rely on imported goods or materials, potentially leading to higher costs and reduced competitiveness
AI Overview


Assessing NAFTA and USMCA for the U.S. on a scale of 1-10 is complex, with economists and policymakers holding varying perspectives. While some argue for the benefits of increased trade and economic growth, others point to potential negative impacts like job displacement and income inequality.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:


Arguments for NAFTA/USMCA:
  • Increased Trade and Economic Growth:
    NAFTA and USMCA, which replaced it, aimed to facilitate trade between the U.S., Canada, and Mexico, leading to a significant increase in trade volumes and economic activity.

  • Access to Larger Markets:
    The agreements provided access to larger markets for U.S. businesses, allowing them to expand their operations and reach more consumers.

  • Reduced Tariffs and Barriers:
    NAFTA and USMCA eliminated or reduced tariffs and other trade barriers, making it easier and cheaper for businesses to trade across borders.

  • Investment Opportunities:
    The agreements created a more stable and predictable environment for foreign investment, attracting investment from other countries.

  • Job Creation:
    While some jobs may have been lost due to increased competition, the agreements also created jobs in other sectors, such as logistics and export-oriented industries.

Arguments Against NAFTA/USMCA:
  • Job Displacement:
    Some argue that NAFTA and USMCA led to job losses in the U.S., as companies moved production to Mexico to take advantage of lower labor costs.
  • Income Inequality:
    The agreements may have contributed to increased income inequality, as some workers in the U.S. struggled to compete with lower-wage workers in Mexico.
  • Weakening of Labor Standards:
    Some critics argue that the agreements weakened labor standards in the U.S., as companies had an incentive to move production to countries with weaker labor protections.
  • Environmental Concerns:
    There are concerns that the agreements may have led to environmental damage, as companies moved production to countries with weaker environmental regulations.

USMCA Specifics:
  • USMCA is a successor to NAFTA:
    The USMCA, which took effect on July 1, 2020, replaced NAFTA.

  • Modest Changes:
    The USMCA made some changes to NAFTA, but it was largely a continuation of the previous agreement.

  • Focus on Labor and Environmental Standards:
    The USMCA included provisions to strengthen labor and environmental standards in Mexico.

  • Dispute Resolution:
    The USMCA also included provisions for resolving trade disputes between the three countries.

  • More Balanced Trade:
    The USMCA aimed to create a more balanced trade relationship between the three countries.

Overall Assessment:
  • Mixed Results:
    The economic impact of NAFTA and USMCA has been mixed, with some sectors benefiting more than others.

  • No Easy Answer:
    There is no easy answer to the question of whether NAFTA and USMCA have been good for the U.S., as the benefits and drawbacks are complex and debated.
  • Ongoing Debate:
    The debate over the economic impact of NAFTA and USMCA is ongoing, and there is no consensus on whether the agreements have been overall beneficial or detrimental to the U.S.

In conclusion, while NAFTA and USMCA have led to increased trade and economic growth, they have also raised concerns about job displacement, income inequality, and environmental damage. A 1-10 rating would be subjective, and depend on the criteria used and the weight given to each factor.

Here is a very unbiased video on tariffs and their benefits and negatives, ex\specially after the 9:00 minute mark. It explains what the big problem is. It is the consumers that make tariffs work and it the consumers are not buying the American higher priced items (because of the trade wars), then the tariffs do not work

It really seems to be almost an impossible situation to resolve with Trump doing things so recklessly.

There's no way you even provide for yourself, dude.
 
Your own Ronald Reagan says that tariffs do not work



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At one time all republicans were free traders

Free trade can be good when the trading partners have similar standards of living, environmental, worker safety, within a democratic form of government

In that case if a company in Norway builds a better widget they should reap the profits when selling it to the US

That's what Reagan believed and he was right

But free trade with low wage countries who do not practice worker safety, and others costs of during business should not be allowed to drive companies in America out of business

Yes we get cheaper products for a while, but during an international crisis we may get no products at all

That was not considered in the 1980’s but we must consider it now
 
JFK... Clinton and Obama used tariffs... I really have to laugh at the tariff freak out... a lot of this tariff and VAT talk is negotiated per shipment and per contract... so chill out people... These contracts can be for several years...
 
Tariffs is a main topic of discussion these days, but it is difficult to fix them to where all the issues are resolved in a positive way!

Since 1994, we have had NAFTA and with Trump we changed it to USMCA. Both have had positives and negatives but neither has resolved the issue totally. I do not think that what Trump is doing is going to solve the issues either, as we will have a trade war (see it mentioned below) and likely inflation. Both will make things worse and not better. If we could not solve the issue for 30 years, Trump is not going to do it either. It has been one of those things that will always have positives and negatives no matter what and understanding that and living with it is likely the best choice.

AI Overview

Tariffs, taxes on imported goods, have both potential benefits and drawbacks. Positives include protecting domestic industries and generating revenue, while negatives include higher consumer prices and potential trade wars.

Potential Positives:
  • Protection of Domestic Industries:
    Tariffs can make imported goods more expensive, potentially encouraging consumers to buy domestically produced goods, thereby supporting local businesses and jobs.

  • Government Revenue:
    Tariffs are a source of revenue for governments, similar to other taxes.

  • National Security:
    Tariffs can be used to protect industries deemed crucial for national security, ensuring a domestic supply chain in case of disruptions.

  • Retaliation:
    Tariffs can be used to retaliate against countries that impose tariffs on a country's exports.
Potential Negatives:
  • Higher Prices for Consumers:
    Tariffs increase the cost of imported goods, which can lead to higher prices for consumers.

  • Trade Wars:
    Tariffs can lead to retaliatory tariffs from other countries, potentially escalating into trade wars that harm all involved.
  • Reduced Trade:
    Tariffs can reduce overall trade, as they make it more expensive to import and export goods.

  • Inefficiency:
    Tariffs can create inefficiencies in the economy, as they distort trade patterns and can lead to resource misallocation.

  • Impact on Businesses:
    Tariffs can negatively impact businesses that rely on imported goods or materials, potentially leading to higher costs and reduced competitiveness
AI Overview


Assessing NAFTA and USMCA for the U.S. on a scale of 1-10 is complex, with economists and policymakers holding varying perspectives. While some argue for the benefits of increased trade and economic growth, others point to potential negative impacts like job displacement and income inequality.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:


Arguments for NAFTA/USMCA:
  • Increased Trade and Economic Growth:
    NAFTA and USMCA, which replaced it, aimed to facilitate trade between the U.S., Canada, and Mexico, leading to a significant increase in trade volumes and economic activity.

  • Access to Larger Markets:
    The agreements provided access to larger markets for U.S. businesses, allowing them to expand their operations and reach more consumers.

  • Reduced Tariffs and Barriers:
    NAFTA and USMCA eliminated or reduced tariffs and other trade barriers, making it easier and cheaper for businesses to trade across borders.

  • Investment Opportunities:
    The agreements created a more stable and predictable environment for foreign investment, attracting investment from other countries.

  • Job Creation:
    While some jobs may have been lost due to increased competition, the agreements also created jobs in other sectors, such as logistics and export-oriented industries.

Arguments Against NAFTA/USMCA:
  • Job Displacement:
    Some argue that NAFTA and USMCA led to job losses in the U.S., as companies moved production to Mexico to take advantage of lower labor costs.
  • Income Inequality:
    The agreements may have contributed to increased income inequality, as some workers in the U.S. struggled to compete with lower-wage workers in Mexico.
  • Weakening of Labor Standards:
    Some critics argue that the agreements weakened labor standards in the U.S., as companies had an incentive to move production to countries with weaker labor protections.
  • Environmental Concerns:
    There are concerns that the agreements may have led to environmental damage, as companies moved production to countries with weaker environmental regulations.

USMCA Specifics:
  • USMCA is a successor to NAFTA:
    The USMCA, which took effect on July 1, 2020, replaced NAFTA.

  • Modest Changes:
    The USMCA made some changes to NAFTA, but it was largely a continuation of the previous agreement.

  • Focus on Labor and Environmental Standards:
    The USMCA included provisions to strengthen labor and environmental standards in Mexico.

  • Dispute Resolution:
    The USMCA also included provisions for resolving trade disputes between the three countries.

  • More Balanced Trade:
    The USMCA aimed to create a more balanced trade relationship between the three countries.

Overall Assessment:
  • Mixed Results:
    The economic impact of NAFTA and USMCA has been mixed, with some sectors benefiting more than others.

  • No Easy Answer:
    There is no easy answer to the question of whether NAFTA and USMCA have been good for the U.S., as the benefits and drawbacks are complex and debated.
  • Ongoing Debate:
    The debate over the economic impact of NAFTA and USMCA is ongoing, and there is no consensus on whether the agreements have been overall beneficial or detrimental to the U.S.

In conclusion, while NAFTA and USMCA have led to increased trade and economic growth, they have also raised concerns about job displacement, income inequality, and environmental damage. A 1-10 rating would be subjective, and depend on the criteria used and the weight given to each factor.

Here is a very unbiased video on tariffs and their benefits and negatives, ex\specially after the 9:00 minute mark. It explains what the big problem is. It is the consumers that make tariffs work and it the consumers are not buying the American higher priced items (because of the trade wars), then the tariffs do not work

It really seems to be almost an impossible situation to resolve with Trump doing things so recklessly.

Tariffs are regressive , a thing of the past. If and when necessary, each nation should subsidize the industries they wish to keep so they can compete on the global.market. This will be necessary until there is one world government. Right now that path is bifructated elongating the timeline to a dangerous level. Put simply we are running out of time to.find constructive resolutions to.our problems on this planet. Humanity needs to grow up.quickly or face the consequences of it's many failures.
 
Funny that we never saw liberals posting attacks on tariffs when Biden extended and expanded the Trump tariffs on China and when he continued a host of other tariffs. Not a peep.

If Trump announced tomorrow that he was ending all tariffs and adopting free trade as his new trade policy, we would quickly see liberals posting threads issuing dire warnings about the dangers of free trade.
 
Best to hang onto your panties.
I don't have to. I have been doing chart evaluations for 48 years and I am presently short 3 stocks.

A short at 138.36. Stock closed on Friday at 121.18
AXP short at 317.21. Stock closed on Friday at 265.63
TSLA short at 413.82. Stock closed on Friday at 249.98

That is a 13% gain, an 18% gain and a 40% gain in less than 4 weeks.

My panties are licking my balls.
 
I’m going to sell some gold next week. Sell high, buy low.
.

I bought my first gold in '89 or '90, at $365 an ounce.

I wasn't watching yesterday when gold briefly popped up over $3,000 an ounce!

I liquidated a good chunk a while ago, to do a major home improvement, and at this rate, I will regain that amount pretty quickly.


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Funny that we never saw liberals posting attacks on tariffs when Biden extended and expanded the Trump tariffs on China and when he continued a host of other tariffs. Not a peep.

If Trump announced tomorrow that he was ending all tariffs and adopting free trade as his new trade policy, we would quickly see liberals posting threads issuing dire warnings about the dangers of free trade.
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but they still called him Xiden.
 
JFK... Clinton and Obama used tariffs... I really have to laugh at the tariff freak out... a lot of this tariff and VAT talk is negotiated per shipment and per contract... so chill out people... These contracts can be for several years...
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And then we see the rust belt. Oh Detroit. Oh Flint, Oh other communities around them. Granholm and Whitmer along with mayors in these communities knifed the communities in the back. In the 1950's these areas were the envy of many parts of the world. Progs always take credit for it. They do not take it for the fall though.
 
Yeah we know Luckyone, you hate Trump, therefore your opinion is rightly ignored.
 
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