Army aviators, ready to leave the military, are told they owe 3 more years instead

[WorldWatcher]

The difference in Basic Allowance for Housing between and O3 and an O6 is not 50 dollars I don’t care which zipcode you live in.

You will notice the big red arrow, this an offical DOD calculator.

Correct, it's not $50. However the post you responded to I noted it was between an O-4 and an O-6.

I rounded the difference to $50, It's actually $45. $5 less. Shoot me.

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If we look at the difference between O-3 and O-6 the difference is $54. Four whole dollars different than what I said with rounding previously.
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BTW Zip Code 23693 is near Langley AFB in VA.

Are you done trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill?

WW

 

[odanny]

Yeah it took me 2 posts to catch on to how stupid you are.

It's past time you STFU. No one wants to hear from you.

 

[Flash]

Everybody is arguing about pay rates.

The real problem is nobody but queers, trannies and unqualifed women wants to be in Potatohead's woke military anymore.

 

[Mushroom]

The difference in Basic Allowance for Housing between and O3 and an O6 is not 50 dollars I don’t care which zipcode you live in.

BAH actually is based almost entirely upon location. The differences between ranks is largely insignificant when it comes to BAH.

 

[Couchpotato]

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You will notice the big red arrow, this an offical DOD calculator.

Correct, it's not $50. However the post you responded to I noted it was between an O-4 and an O-6.

I rounded the difference to $50, It's actually $45. $5 less. Shoot me.

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If we look at the difference between O-3 and O-6 the difference is $54. Four whole dollars different than what I said with rounding previously.
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BTW Zip Code 23693 is near Langley AFB in VA.

Are you done trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill?

WW

It's past time you STFU. No one wants to hear from you.

Army Promotion to O-6 Colonel - Military Ranks

www.military-ranks.org

A Colonel is a Field Officer in the United States Army at DoD paygrade O-6. This page describes how the Army determines who is eligible for the promotion list to Colonel.



The same pattern of competition that applies to all officer ranks from Captain onward applies to Colonels; yet, at this rank, the competition becomes much more intense; promotion to Colonel from Lieutenant Colonel is a highly-selective process.

A Lieutenant Colonel who has served a minimum of eighteen years time in service and five years time in grade becomes eligible for promotion to Colonel, provided such officers continue to meet the physical requirements and stay out of legal trouble; although, soldiers seeking the Colonel rank do not usually see achievement of that end until around twenty to twenty-two years of service.


This mythical O-6 who doesnt have at least 18 years in service just doesn't exist. So, an O-6 makes at least 11.5 a month or 138k a year. Which means your math doesnt work.


Your CO lied to you and you're to fucking stupid to see it.

 

[Couchpotato]

BAH actually is based almost entirely upon location. The differences between ranks is largely insignificant when it comes to BAH.

The fuck? No they arent. The differences are the greatest between rank divisions. Non Com, NCO, SNCO, SSNCO. Co, Field, Generals. Pvt's and Generals dont live next door to each other because Generals get more money for BAH than Pvt's do.

 

[Mushroom]

The fuck? No they arent. The differences are the greatest between rank divisions. Non Com, NCO, SNCO, SSNCO. Co, Field, Generals. Pvt's and Generals dont live next door to each other because Generals get more money for BAH than Pvt's do.

No, that is because they make more money and decided where and how they want to live on their own.

Oh, and by far most Generals live on base housing. As most bases have specific housing set aside for flag officers.

If the Privates are not living next to Generals, that is mostly because the Private makes a whopping $2,100 a month while the General is making over $14,000 a month. And the General simply decided for one reason or another to live where a Private could afford.

Back in 1987 I bought a decent house in North Carolina. I was a Corporal, my next door neighbor was a Chief Petty Officer (E-7), the guy across the street was a Captain. Next to him lived a Staff Sergeant. Not to far away was indeed a Lieutenant Colonel. All of our houses were roughly the same price (around $55k), but the biggest difference was largely in our cars. My wife and I had older cars, they all had newer cars.

But the difference in pay by far outweighs the BAH. In my entire career I never once purchased or rented a home based upon my BAH. It was simply what I could afford based upon my total pay.

And it is largely the same way on base housing. Yes, in the past it was much more separated by rank, but not as much today. Today the biggest difference is family size. So you may find a Captain with 3 kids living right next to a Sergeant with 3 kids, as that would require normally at least a 3 or 4 bedroom unit. And you might find a married Private with no kids living next to a married Captain with no kids. As both only merit a one bedroom unit.

Only in the older bases will you still find the housing separated by rank. Fort Bliss still has a "high ranking officers" area, but all the rest is more for the size of family than anything else. And all of the newest housing they have been building there since 2001 is "all ranks". Only Battalion Commanders and higher actually have a house assigned to them regardless of their family size. I know my old Battalion CO did not live in the house she rated, because she was single (divorced with a grown daughter) and did not see the need for a small 5 bedroom mansion just for herself. She just rented a nice apartment out in town.

And the Battalion CO that replaced her actually lived in a house he had bought over a decade before, so also did not use the mansion. I want to say there are around 30 mansions on Fort Bliss, and at any time 4 or 5 were always vacant because for one reason or another the person that rated it simply decided to live elsewhere.

 

[Couchpotato]

No, that is because they make more money and decided where and how they want to live on their own.

Oh, and by far most Generals live on base housing. As most bases have specific housing set aside for flag officers.

If the Privates are not living next to Generals, that is mostly because the Private makes a whopping $2,100 a month while the General is making over $14,000 a month. And the General simply decided for one reason or another to live where a Private could afford.

Back in 1987 I bought a decent house in North Carolina. I was a Corporal, my next door neighbor was a Chief Petty Officer (E-7), the guy across the street was a Captain. Next to him lived a Staff Sergeant. Not to far away was indeed a Lieutenant Colonel. All of our houses were roughly the same price (around $55k), but the biggest difference was largely in our cars. My wife and I had older cars, they all had newer cars.

But the difference in pay by far outweighs the BAH. In my entire career I never once purchased or rented a home based upon my BAH. It was simply what I could afford based upon my total pay.

The difference between an E5 with dependents and an E-7 with dependents in DC is 500 dollars a month. You can say that's not a big difference, but I bet if you talked to the E-5 and E-7 they wouldn't agree with you.

 

[WorldWatcher]

The difference between an E5 with dependents and an E-7 with dependents in DC is 500 dollars a month. You can say that's not a big difference, but I bet if you talked to the E-5 and E-7 they wouldn't agree with you.

Now you've moved from comparing officer ranks, which was the originial discussion, to comparing enlisted ranks which is a difference question.

Now you want to throw in the "with dependents" which is based on not rank but factors in marital/child status.

Using DC Zip Code of 20019 at the rate for the member alone (without dependents) an E-5 gets $2469 and an E-7 gets $2676, a difference of $207.

I more significant difference does exist for enlisted ranks than for officer ranks. No argument there.

WW

 

[Mushroom]

The difference between an E5 with dependents and an E-7 with dependents in DC is 500 dollars a month.

Out of which orifice are you pulling that claim out of?

 

[Mushroom]

Using DC Zip Code of 20019 at the rate for the member alone (without dependents) an E-5 gets $2469 and an E-7 gets $2676, a difference of $207.

And by far, the biggest difference in where they decide to live would be the roughly $3,800 base pay compared to the roughly $5,200 base pay.

Never once in my entire career did I ever live in a place based upon my BAH. It was always based upon my expenses and base pay. And to be honest, my family and I always lived in places that were far nicer than we needed or could have afforded other than we had made the decision even when we got married to live upon my base pay. Part of that is the fact that we never once financed a vehicle. Doing that alone gave us much more disposable income to spend on things like housing.

Motorcycles, cars, motorhomes, every single vehicle we purchased from 1985 when we got married we purchased with cash. Which is why in El Paso the two of us lived in a nice three bedroom house by ourselves when I was an E-4, while the Sergeants and Staff Sergeants I knew had car payments and lived in places nowhere near as nice as where we lived. Even those that came to visit us for various reasons (social or business) were amazed that as a Specialist I owned a Lincoln Towncar, a Silverado, and a Winnebago while living in a nice area. Not living in a tiny 1 bedroom apartment while driving a 2 year old car that the bank owned more than we did. None could comprehend actually saving money and making purchases with cash instead of financing them and going into debt.

 

[WorldWatcher]

And by far, the biggest difference in where they decide to live ...

Ya, BAH is based on Zip code and rank. There are something like 35 different zip codes in Washington DC and that doesn't include those who commute in from Virginia or Maryland to work in DC.

Having retired in 1998, I don't know if the zip code used is the zip code of the command or zip code of the residence. (I'm thinking it's residence.)

WW

 

[Mushroom]

Having retired in 1998, I don't know if the zip code used is the zip code of the command or zip code of the residence. (I'm thinking it's residence.)

It's the zip code of the command. That is why when I was at Seal Beach, the VHA (precursor to BAH) was higher than the VHA for the Long Beach Naval Shipyard 10 miles away.

And it works the same way for those using the Montgomery and Post 9-11 GI Bill. It is based upon the zip code of where you go to school not where you live. That is why I knew guys in Stockton that moved from a local school to one actually in San Francisco. The BAH was so much higher there that even with the cost of commuting they made bank.

 

[Couchpotato]

Out of which orifice are you pulling that claim out of?

? DTMO website dum dum

 

[Couchpotato]

Now you've moved from comparing officer ranks, which was the originial discussion, to comparing enlisted ranks which is a difference question.

Now you want to throw in the "with dependents" which is based on not rank but factors in marital/child status.

Using DC Zip Code of 20019 at the rate for the member alone (without dependents) an E-5 gets $2469 and an E-7 gets $2676, a difference of $207.

I more significant difference does exist for enlisted ranks than for officer ranks. No argument there.

WW

2 different conversations. Try to keep up.

 

[WorldWatcher]

2 different conversations. Try to keep up.

One of us has posted fact, links, and screen shots. One has been expressing opinions that have been shown to be incorrect.

I think I've kept up quite well.

Have a nice day.

WW

 

[Couchpotato]

One of us has posted fact, links, and screen shots. One has been expressing opinions that have been shown to be incorrect.

I think I've kept up quite well.

Have a nice day.

WW

Which facts? The 14 year O-6? Are those the "facts" you're talking about?

 

[whitehall]

Two Army aircraft crashes in a month costing the lives of 12 Soldiers caused the Army to ground all non essential flights. Maybe they should let those pilots retire and start over.