Arkansas legislators override veto, enact transgender youth treatment ban

[Cecilie1200]

God bless them!

This crap with minors is usually driven by one parent and evil medical people who should rot in hell.

We have a very sick and demonic society that wallows in porn, homosexuality, and other filth. Turn back to the Lord and save America.

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Arkansas legislators Tuesday made the state the first to ban gender-affirming care for transgender minors, overriding Republican Gov. Asa Hutchinson's veto.​

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The law prohibits doctors from providing gender-affirming medical care, such as puberty blockers and hormone therapy, and prevents them from referring minors to other providers.​

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Major medical organizations, such as the American Medical Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics, opposed the bill, which transgender advocates say could have severe negative effects on trans youths in the state.​

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Arkansas legislators override veto, enact transgender youth treatment ban

Legislators rebuffed Gov. Asa Hutchinson, making the state the first to ban gender-confirming treatments for transgender minors.

www.nbcnews.com

Such is the fear, ignorance, bigotry, and hate of the authoritarian right.

They are protecting women and children. Boy are you dumb.

How is this protecting women and children??..oh ya I forgot..in the right wing world of knuckle draggers kids identifying as transgender are just pervs dressing up as girls so the can sneak into girls locker rooms and ogle them..(rolls eyes)

No, actually, in the world of rational, sane people, they're CHILDREN. They're inexperienced, not fully developed, and being manipulated by sick perverts (that would include you). And they need protection until they can make free and informed decisions as adults.

Just a tip: guilt trips work better on people who A) have something to feel guilty about, and B) who value your opinion.

 

[Cecilie1200]

God bless them!

This crap with minors is usually driven by one parent and evil medical people who should rot in hell.

We have a very sick and demonic society that wallows in porn, homosexuality, and other filth. Turn back to the Lord and save America.

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Arkansas legislators Tuesday made the state the first to ban gender-affirming care for transgender minors, overriding Republican Gov. Asa Hutchinson's veto.​

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The law prohibits doctors from providing gender-affirming medical care, such as puberty blockers and hormone therapy, and prevents them from referring minors to other providers.​

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Major medical organizations, such as the American Medical Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics, opposed the bill, which transgender advocates say could have severe negative effects on trans youths in the state.​

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Arkansas legislators override veto, enact transgender youth treatment ban

Legislators rebuffed Gov. Asa Hutchinson, making the state the first to ban gender-confirming treatments for transgender minors.

www.nbcnews.com

So if you don't provide medical care then those kids will just say..oh well, I guess I'll just forget about it then?...interesting, I thought it was a little more complicated than that.

Let the kids wait until they are adults to make that decision.

I think by the time they are in their early teens they aleady know they are transgender and knowing right wingers, they will do something to stop adults from receiving medical affirming care also.

I think you spend a lot of time believing that you're thinking, when you're actually just parroting what your masters told you.

Spare me your arguments based on your "thoughts".

 

[Cecilie1200]

God bless them!

This crap with minors is usually driven by one parent and evil medical people who should rot in hell.

We have a very sick and demonic society that wallows in porn, homosexuality, and other filth. Turn back to the Lord and save America.

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Arkansas legislators Tuesday made the state the first to ban gender-affirming care for transgender minors, overriding Republican Gov. Asa Hutchinson's veto.​

​

The law prohibits doctors from providing gender-affirming medical care, such as puberty blockers and hormone therapy, and prevents them from referring minors to other providers.​

​

Major medical organizations, such as the American Medical Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics, opposed the bill, which transgender advocates say could have severe negative effects on trans youths in the state.​

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Arkansas legislators override veto, enact transgender youth treatment ban

Legislators rebuffed Gov. Asa Hutchinson, making the state the first to ban gender-confirming treatments for transgender minors.

www.nbcnews.com

I'm not at all for the mutilation of people to change their genders except in RARE cases, but I'm confused:

Since when should STATES get involved in people's individual healthcare? Shouldn't that be up to the individual and their DOCTORS and insurance company?

When has it ever not been the job of the state to protect children from harm if the adults around them are doing a shit job of it? The state already gets involved in healthcare quite a bit, particularly where kids are involved.

 

[toobfreak]

The state already gets involved in healthcare quite a bit, particularly where kids are involved.

Yep. Doesn't make it right.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The state already gets involved in healthcare quite a bit, particularly where kids are involved.

Yep. Doesn't make it right.

Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. There are no simple, easy, blanket rules for the real world.

 

[Circe]

The same way that they don't get to decide to get a tattoo at fourteen, but are perfectly free to make that choice when they're 18.

Good point about the tattoo!

However, I suppose their argument (or the argument of the docs making beaucoup bucks off these neuterings) is that the older they get, the more impossible it becomes to turn them into anything resembling the opposite sex. So it is more complicated ---- but crazy.

I think the left wants anything that prevents births, and wow, does castration and hormone castration accomplish that! None of them will ever have children --- reproductive systems irrevocably messed up, from what I read. And then when they recover their sanity in adulthood, they get mad that people "let" them do this to themselves and doctors cooperated. Go figure.

Kids are so ungrateful -------

 

[toobfreak]

There are no simple, easy, blanket rules for the real world.

Sure there is. Change is inevitable. That's one.

But you might want to pass on your statement to the people MAKING THE RULES! For every rule/law they make, it seems 60-90% of the people somehow all fall through the cracks of their simple, one size fits all laws!

 

[Cecilie1200]

There are no simple, easy, blanket rules for the real world.

Sure there is. Change is inevitable. That's one.

But you might want to pass on your statement to the people MAKING THE RULES! For every rule/law they make, it seems 60-90% of the people somehow all fall through the cracks of their simple, one size fits all laws!

So the solution is to do nothing at all, and let 100% of the people fall through the yawning chasm of your apathy?

I'm really not sure what "falling through the cracks" you're so worried about in this case that you'd opt for doing nothing at all.

 

[hadit]

Isn't the governor a Republican? What the **** are these people doing?

They are making sure that kids, who change their minds notoriously often as they grow up, don't make permanent, life altering decisions to mutilate their bodies so as to appear to be something other than they are.

If they're not allowed to get a tattoo, they should not be allowed to have their bodies permanently altered.

 

[toobfreak]

So the solution is to do nothing at all, and let 100% of the people fall through the yawning chasm of your apathy?

No of course not. The solution is to

• Get government out of people's lives except where truly necessary.
• Stop thinking that public agencies can be run better, more altruistically or efficiently than private companies.
• Start writing laws that account for the vast number of situations and ALLOW for most of those they do not.

 

[Cecilie1200]

So the solution is to do nothing at all, and let 100% of the people fall through the yawning chasm of your apathy?

No of course not. The solution is to

• Get government out of people's lives except where truly necessary.
• Stop thinking that public agencies can be run better, more altruistically or efficiently than private companies.
• Start writing laws that account for the vast number of situations and ALLOW for most of those they do not.

Excuse me, but I'm not a Libertarian, and I'm not viewing anarchy as the perfect state we're aspiring to, and government ever doing anything whatsoever as an evil to be opposed at all costs.

So I'm thinking we're not even in the same conversation, let alone likely to agree on anything.

Noticeably, by the way, your little bullet points fall right in the area of the part of my post you cut off and didn't quote, presumably because you wanted to speechify without having to actually address my point.

Moving on to honest posters now.

 

[toobfreak]

So the solution is to do nothing at all, and let 100% of the people fall through the yawning chasm of your apathy?

No of course not. The solution is to

• Get government out of people's lives except where truly necessary.
• Stop thinking that public agencies can be run better, more altruistically or efficiently than private companies.
• Start writing laws that account for the vast number of situations and ALLOW for most of those they do not.

Excuse me, but I'm not a Libertarian, and I'm not viewing anarchy as the perfect state we're aspiring to, and government ever doing anything whatsoever as an evil to be opposed at all costs.

So I'm thinking we're not even in the same conversation, let alone likely to agree on anything.

Noticeably, by the way, your little bullet points fall right in the area of the part of my post you cut off and didn't quote, presumably because you wanted to speechify without having to actually address my point.

Moving on to honest posters now.

Move on anywhere you want. If you were an honest poster, you'd address my points instead of evading them / calling me dishonest. I did my best within the range of your B&W thinking.

 

[Coyote]

So...at 16 - you can get married - at 17 you can join the army and kill people.

But you can't make decisions on your gender identity.

How things have changed. . . I well remember that the slogan in 1972 was that kids who can join the army and kill Vietcong at 18 should be able to drink and vote.

Now the slogan is that kids of 12 to 17 ought to be able to order up a castration for themselves and lots of opposite-sex hormones.

Medical decisions ought to be between the parent, child and doctor. Not the parent, child, and politician.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Medical decisions ought to be between the parent, child and doctor. Not the parent, child, and politician.

So chemical castration deserves no protections against doctors like Kermit Gosnell?
Fortunately that won't be the case in Arkansas anymore.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Medical decisions ought to be between the parent, child and doctor. Not the parent, child, and politician.

So chemical castration deserves no protections against doctors like Kermit Gosnell?
Fortunately that won't be the case in Arkansas anymore.

You're arguing with someone who believes in “a woman's right to choose” to have her own child savagely murdered in cold blood.

Of course she's going to side with subjecting children to this grotesque form of extreme abuse as well.

Such is the futility of arguing ethics and morals with a hardcore sociopath.