Are you fears of Russia and China nuking America diminished now?

[Correll]

Russia isn't the Worlds enemy the American Empire is.

Sorry. IN the real world, Russia is getting dogpiled.

It sucks for them. It would be better if they just lost and took the L, and then moved on.

 

[Deadstick]

Sorry. IN the real world, Russia is getting dogpiled.

It sucks for them. It would be better if they just lost and took the L, and then moved on.

In the real world many Countries who have been on the wrong end of US bullying and Imperialism and European Colonialism support Russia, such as when the fight against South African Apartheid was going on which side were the US on and which side was the Soviet union on? it's also why the French are being shown the door in Africa.

 

[Godboy]

Napoleon and Hitler thought that, didn't workout so good for them.

Do you actually think you could occupy Russia and they would wait for you to leave? you wouldn't have enough troops to come anywhere pulling that off.

Why would we "occupy" Russia?

 

[Correll]

In the real world many Countries who have been on the wrong end of US bullying and Imperialism and European Colonialism support Russia, such as when the fight against South African Apartheid was going on which side were the US on and which side was the Soviet union on? it's also why the French are being shown the door in Africa.

Sure. China, north korea, Iran.

That's "teh world" to you. to me, Russia is fucked.


Time will tell which of us in living in the real world.

 

[luiza]

Weve been launching missiles and rockets into space for decades. What the **** are you talkin about dude? Even civilian Elon Musk can launch a nuke.

You totally miss the point .
Prove they have been armed with real nuclear explosives .

Show us that all the incidents where total launch control was removed by an outside agent represent Fake Reports .

 

[Godboy]

You totally miss the point .
Prove they have been armed with real nuclear explosives .

Why wouldnt i believe that they have successfully armed ICBMs with nuclear warheads? Weve had both nuclear and ICBM tech for decades. Why wouldnt we have just paired the two, instead of doing your dipshit conspiracy theory idea where rather than pairing them, they never do it and just lie about it?

 

[Zavulon]

By "stripped of their resources", you mean getting good paying jobs in the resource industries that would be booming because russia would be part of the world again, instead of the world's enemy?

We are not world's enemy. Not the enemy of world's majority. We are enemies of those who consider us (and world's majority) subhumans who should be discriminated, robbed and genocided by true Europeans. We want to survive, and it means that we have to eliminate this threat. That's what we call denazification.

 

[Zavulon]

Sure. China, north korea, Iran.

That's "teh world" to you. to me, Russia is fucked.


Time will tell which of us in living in the real world.

In the real world you lost $100 and still can't admit it.

 

[Correll]

In the real world you lost $100 and still can't admit it.

I admitted I was wrong about teh peace deal.

I still want that peace and so does Trump.

YOur young men are the ones dying, not ours.

Ours? They seem to be waking up from the leftard stupor that infected the boomers.

I see the right questions being asked. And a lot of people rejecting the old lies.


Thinks are looking real good over here.

 

[Zavulon]

I admitted I was wrong about teh peace deal.

And now you should take $100, go to a bar (or whatever place you want), buy $100-worth alcohol drinks to random people and ask them to drink to the health of Zavulon, and download video report here.

I still want that peace and so does Trump.

No, you don't. You can't actually wish lasting peace with "Freaking subhumans, bloodthristy goons, lead by the irrational dictator".
If you want peace, first of all, you should change your mind about what Russians are, and why exactly they do what they do.

 

[Correll]

And now you should take $100, go to a bar (or whatever place you want), buy $100-worth alcohol drinks to random people and ask them to drink to the health of Zavulon, and download video report here.

I don't really hang out in bars much anymore.

No, you don't. You can't actually wish lasting peace with "Freaking subhumans, bloodthristy goons, lead by the irrational dictator".

I don't recall ever using that terminology. If I did, you must have pissed me off A LOT.

I don't consider Putin to be irrational. I just think he is not giving nearly enough value to the lives of his men, in his calculations.

If you want peace, first of all, you should change your mind about what Russians are, and why exactly they do what they do.

I think I get the reasons very well. I can even see that they are, or were, reasonable goals.

Unfortunately for you, your military failed to be able to achieve those goals.

 

[Zavulon]

I don't really hang out in bars much anymore.

It's not necessarily should be an actual bar (and you don't need to hang out, either). You may buy a $100 worth booze in a shop or in a restaurant. What is essential - random people drinking $100 booze for my health. Feel free to use some creativity. It's you who should be interested in keeping your reputation, after all.

I don't recall ever using that terminology. If I did, you must have pissed me off A LOT.

I don't care about political correct "terminology" or any other sort of hypocrisy. Lack of understanding is your problem, after all, not mine.

I don't consider Putin to be irrational. I just think he is not giving nearly enough value to the lives of his men, in his calculations.

Just another way to say, that Putin is an irrational dictator, who can't calculate even simpliest consequences of his actions, and ordinary Russians are genetic slaves, who just follow orders, and don't care even about their own lives.
Nothing can be far from reality (or even a practical way to negotiate with Russians).

I think I get the reasons very well. I can even see that they are, or were, reasonable goals.

I'm not sure that you can actually understand our reasons, mostly because you can't love Russia (or America) the way Russians love it and you don't have our historical and individual experience.

Unfortunately for you, your military failed to be able to achieve those goals.

And you are wrong one more time.

 

[Correll]

It's not necessarily should be an actual bar (and you don't need to hang out, either). You may buy a $100 worth booze in a shop or in a restaurant. What is essential - random people drinking $100 booze for my health. Feel free to use some creativity. It's you who should be interested in keeping your reputation, after all.


I don't care about political correct "terminology" or any other sort of hypocrisy. Lack of understanding is your problem, after all, not mine.


Just another way to say, that Putin is an irrational dictator, who can't calculate even simpliest consequences of his actions, and ordinary Russians are genetic slaves, who just follow orders, and don't care even about their own lives.
Nothing can be far from reality (or even a practical way to negotiate with Russians).

Being wrong, is not the same as being irrational. And the rest of your post is garbage.

I'm not sure that you can actually understand our reasons, mostly because you can't love Russia (or America) the way Russians love it and you don't have our historical and individual experience.

I understand nationalism and the desire to see your nation survive or even thrive.

The idea that I cannot understand you, if I am not one of you, is dumb.

And you are wrong one more time.

Nope. Your attempt to conquer the ukraine has failed. It is now a meatgrinder, costing you far more than your nation can afford to pay.

 

[Zavulon]

Being wrong, is not the same as being irrational. And the rest of your post is garbage.

As I said, you just don't understand.

I understand nationalism and the desire to see your nation survive or even thrive.

It is not nationalism. May be, I should write something about how exactly we love Russia.

The idea that I cannot understand you, if I am not one of you, is dumb.

No, it's not. I do understand English language (ok, more or less), I do know American culture, read American books, chat with American users in internet, but I still don't understand Americans, and, what is worse, I still can't be sure when I do understand them, when didn't. If I have problems with understanding Americans - you guys have no chance to understand Russians (or even realise where exactly you don't understand us).

Nope. Your attempt to conquer the ukraine has failed. It is now a meatgrinder, costing you far more than your nation can afford to pay.

And one more time. We are not acting in the logic of conquest, counting balance of incomes and loses. We are acting in the logic of elimination of a vital threat, whatever is a price of victory, the price of defeat would be much more terrible. We can afford to lost even 90% of our population, because alternative is death of 100%.

 

[Correll]

As I said, you just don't understand.


It is not nationalism. May be, I should write something about how exactly we love Russia.


No, it's not. I do understand English language (ok, more or less), I do know American culture, read American books, chat with American users in internet, but I still don't understand Americans, and, what is worse, I still can't be sure when I do understand them, when didn't. If I have problems with understanding Americans - you guys have no chance to understand Russians (or even realise where exactly you don't understand us).


And one more time. We are not acting in the logic of conquest, counting balance of incomes and loses. We are acting in the logic of elimination of a vital threat, whatever is a price of victory, the price of defeat would be much more terrible. We can afford to lost even 90% of our population, because alternative is death of 100%.

lol. Yeah, it wouldn't.

 

[Deadstick]

When is Nationalism Patriotism? when it's America.

 

[Correll]

When is Nationalism Patriotism? when it's America.

The overlap is a function of both concepts. Why would it not happen with every country?

 

[Hafar1014]

Every country except Iran knows nuclear war is not winnable. Iran is the exception because they ant a nuclear war which they think will bring in their great prophet who will make all of us Muslim.
Russia is all bluster as their military fails in Ukraine for the world to see. Their technology is crap. War strategy is WWII. They cant hold air superiority against a tine country. If Putin takes on NATO he will be wiped out in weeks.
America and Israel attacked Iran who had Russian SS400 anti aircraft defenses and they couldnt hit a single plane and were wiped out

 

[Zavulon]

Every country except Iran knows nuclear war is not winnable. Iran is the exception because they ant a nuclear war which they think will bring in their great prophet who will make all of us Muslim.
Russia is all bluster as their military fails in Ukraine for the world to see. Their technology is crap. War strategy is WWII. They cant hold air superiority against a tine country. If Putin takes on NATO he will be wiped out in weeks.
America and Israel attacked Iran who had Russian SS400 anti aircraft defenses and they couldnt hit a single plane and were wiped out

Of course, it's a plain lie. Even America (with all that demonstrative pacifism) knew that nuclear war is survivable and winnable.
Nuclear deterrence is effective only because it is believable. And it is believable only because the possible war is survivable and winnable.
Everything else is also a total crap.

 

[Synthaholic]

Russians are pissed at Putin. You should click this and read the rest of the thread.