are you aware that there have been any gays 60 years ago?

[Sunni Man]

There has always been homosexuality. Accepting it and tolerating is another step in the evolution of society. Can you be tolerant?

So after homosexuality.....what is the next step in the so called evolution of society.......cannibalism?.....beastiality?.......pedophilia?........

 

[there4eyeM]

"homosexuality is a psychological Problem. but lets not make it that drastic, lets say two adults consent to shit eatch other in the mouth and eat it. would you not be disgusted and call them perverts?"

There is no direct connection between disgusting and perverted.

Example: The Nazi régime was disgusting. Unfortunately, we cannot call it perverted since it acted on identical principles to those in use today. It detoured them a bit perhaps, so in that sense 'perverted' them, but as a political body it was no different from others.

 

[Nosmo King]

I imagine people see beyond the Bible and note attitudes like yours and realize the Bible is right on target. The only fairy tales are those promoted by ...

While the Bible is a compilation of books of wisdom, beautiful poetry, spiritual guidance and wisdom, it is not a text book nor a guideline to form something as constantly in flux as morals. We do not hold the same moral code as the Victorians or the Edwardians, or the morality of the early 20th century. times change. People interact. Communication and transportation has made the world more accessible. Adaptation in the moral code is something absolutely necessary for societal evolution.


There will always be those sitting along the ditch of society, picking the thorns from between their toes and wondering how it went so wrong. But those folks are the folks who refuse to live in the adaptable world. They are like the Taliban wishing for a return to the morality of the seventh century. Sometimes their attitudes get sharpened and dangerous. Sometimes their attitudes are looked upon as quaint. Sometimes they remove themselves from society all together and form clannish societies like the Amish. But they never survive long or retain any credibility.

the taliban represent a Billion People. as much People as you think you do. just saying, they are not the amish. and i bet most cultures except western dont view homosexuality as normal not even eastern europeans like russians let alone non-White asians, africans, middle easterners, it is just auch upper class of rich White americans and western europeans who does. that is why homosexuals are not a helpless minority but they are rich White males who managed despite being only 2% of the world Population to achieve more tolerance and acceptance for them then a race of People like blacks

Care to edit that post so it makes a little sense and get back to me? I just read something rambling and devoid of a point. Please try again.

 

[Nosmo King]

There has always been homosexuality. Accepting it and tolerating is another step in the evolution of society. Can you be tolerant?

So after homosexuality.....what is the next step in the so called evolution of society.......cannibalism?.....beastiality?.......pedophilia?........

Cannibalism? Bestiality? Pedophilia? Can you draw one common thread between them? I can. And I call that thread 'consent'. No one concedes to be eaten. Animals have no way to express consent, and neither do children. But consenting adults, in the privacy of their own homes should be free to express their love for one another just as heterosexual couples do. If gay promiscuity is your hangup, I suggest you examine heterosexual promiscuity for your paradigm.

What a feeble straw man you present.

 

[Cammmpbell]

The only reason homosexuality gets a bad rap is because of the bible. The low down, ignorant, bullshit fairy tale called the bible. We'll get over it........it's just a matter of time.

I imagine people see beyond the Bible and note attitudes like yours and realize the Bible is right on target. The only fairy tales are those promoted by ...

While the Bible is a compilation of books of wisdom, beautiful poetry, spiritual guidance and wisdom, it is not a text book nor a guideline to form something as constantly in flux as morals. We do not hold the same moral code as the Victorians or the Edwardians, or the morality of the early 20th century. times change. People interact. Communication and transportation has made the world more accessible. Adaptation in the moral code is something absolutely necessary for societal evolution.

There will always be those sitting along the ditch of society, picking the thorns from between their toes and wondering how it went so wrong. But those folks are the folks who refuse to live in the adaptable world. They are like the Taliban wishing for a return to the morality of the seventh century. Sometimes their attitudes get sharpened and dangerous. Sometimes their attitudes are looked upon as quaint. Sometimes they remove themselves from society all together and form clannish societies like the Amish. But they never survive long or retain any credibility.

Actually a moot point:

?No Religion? on the Rise: 19.6% Have No Religious Affiliation - Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life

"One in five Americans now consider themselves atheists, agnostics or “nones.” While some may have dismissed the figure then or questioned its accuracy, a new analysis from the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life confirms a growth in secular world-views — and a decline in religious adherence — among U.S. adults."

Looks like the 2000 year long battle of the churches to deny two thirds of what's in the bible has finally been laid on their doorstep. Sometimes it takes a while but fairy tales about ancient gods seem to ultimately lose. It's looking miore and more like these guys pretty well knew over two hundred years ago:

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding" ~Thomas Jefferson~ excerpt from a letter to president John Adams

 

[Nosmo King]

I imagine people see beyond the Bible and note attitudes like yours and realize the Bible is right on target. The only fairy tales are those promoted by ...

While the Bible is a compilation of books of wisdom, beautiful poetry, spiritual guidance and wisdom, it is not a text book nor a guideline to form something as constantly in flux as morals. We do not hold the same moral code as the Victorians or the Edwardians, or the morality of the early 20th century. times change. People interact. Communication and transportation has made the world more accessible. Adaptation in the moral code is something absolutely necessary for societal evolution.

There will always be those sitting along the ditch of society, picking the thorns from between their toes and wondering how it went so wrong. But those folks are the folks who refuse to live in the adaptable world. They are like the Taliban wishing for a return to the morality of the seventh century. Sometimes their attitudes get sharpened and dangerous. Sometimes their attitudes are looked upon as quaint. Sometimes they remove themselves from society all together and form clannish societies like the Amish. But they never survive long or retain any credibility.

Actually a moot point:

?No Religion? on the Rise: 19.6% Have No Religious Affiliation - Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life

"One in five Americans now consider themselves atheists, agnostics or “nones.” While some may have dismissed the figure then or questioned its accuracy, a new analysis from the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life confirms a growth in secular world-views — and a decline in religious adherence — among U.S. adults."

Looks like the 2000 year long battle of the churches to deny two thirds of what's in the bible has finally been laid on their doorstep. Sometimes it takes a while but fairy tales seem to ultimately lose.

I'm not campaigning against the Bible or Christianity I am campaigning against the Bible and skewed attitudes draw from it as weapons against our fellow man.

 

[Sunni Man]

I'm not campaigning against the Bible or Christianity. I am campaigning against the Bible

Makes perfect sense...........

 

[Nosmo King]

I'm not campaigning against the Bible or Christianity. I am campaigning against the Bible

Makes perfect sense...........

Way to edit! Fox News is on the line with a job offer for you!

I said I am against using the Bible and the skewed attitudes some draw from it and using them as weapons against their fellow man. But that is a compound sentence, isn't it? Let's break it down.

I am not against the bible.

I am not against Christianity.

Some folks draw skewed (warped, incorrect, inappropriate) attitudes from the Bible.

They then use the Bible and their attitudes as weapons against their fellow man. And that is what I oppose.

 

[rightwinger]

I imagine people see beyond the Bible and note attitudes like yours and realize the Bible is right on target. The only fairy tales are those promoted by ...

While the Bible is a compilation of books of wisdom, beautiful poetry, spiritual guidance and wisdom, it is not a text book nor a guideline to form something as constantly in flux as morals. We do not hold the same moral code as the Victorians or the Edwardians, or the morality of the early 20th century. times change. People interact. Communication and transportation has made the world more accessible. Adaptation in the moral code is something absolutely necessary for societal evolution.


There will always be those sitting along the ditch of society, picking the thorns from between their toes and wondering how it went so wrong. But those folks are the folks who refuse to live in the adaptable world. They are like the Taliban wishing for a return to the morality of the seventh century. Sometimes their attitudes get sharpened and dangerous. Sometimes their attitudes are looked upon as quaint. Sometimes they remove themselves from society all together and form clannish societies like the Amish. But they never survive long or retain any credibility.

the taliban represent a Billion People. as much People as you think you do. just saying, they are not the amish. and i bet most cultures except western dont view homosexuality as normal not even eastern europeans like russians let alone non-White asians, africans, middle easterners, it is just auch upper class of rich White americans and western europeans who does. that is why homosexuals are not a helpless minority but they are rich White males who managed despite being only 2% of the world Population to achieve more tolerance and acceptance for them then a race of People like blacks

Look...gays are able to form lasting and loving relationships
You, on the other hand ....are not

Gays are unable to procreate
Neither are you

Which should society encourage?

 

[Cammmpbell]

While the Bible is a compilation of books of wisdom, beautiful poetry, spiritual guidance and wisdom, it is not a text book nor a guideline to form something as constantly in flux as morals. We do not hold the same moral code as the Victorians or the Edwardians, or the morality of the early 20th century. times change. People interact. Communication and transportation has made the world more accessible. Adaptation in the moral code is something absolutely necessary for societal evolution.

There will always be those sitting along the ditch of society, picking the thorns from between their toes and wondering how it went so wrong. But those folks are the folks who refuse to live in the adaptable world. They are like the Taliban wishing for a return to the morality of the seventh century. Sometimes their attitudes get sharpened and dangerous. Sometimes their attitudes are looked upon as quaint. Sometimes they remove themselves from society all together and form clannish societies like the Amish. But they never survive long or retain any credibility.

Actually a moot point:

?No Religion? on the Rise: 19.6% Have No Religious Affiliation - Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life

"One in five Americans now consider themselves atheists, agnostics or “nones.” While some may have dismissed the figure then or questioned its accuracy, a new analysis from the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life confirms a growth in secular world-views — and a decline in religious adherence — among U.S. adults."

Looks like the 2000 year long battle of the churches to deny two thirds of what's in the bible has finally been laid on their doorstep. Sometimes it takes a while but fairy tales seem to ultimately lose.

I'm not campaigning against the Bible or Christianity I am campaigning against the Bible and skewed attitudes draw from it as weapons against our fellow man.

Our fellow man is building billion dollar casinos and personal multi-million dollar ocean going yachts while nearly a billion of our fellow man is starving or suffering from mal nutrition. Makes you feel really good about what we've become doesn't it?

 

[Nosmo King]

Actually a moot point:

?No Religion? on the Rise: 19.6% Have No Religious Affiliation - Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life

"One in five Americans now consider themselves atheists, agnostics or “nones.” While some may have dismissed the figure then or questioned its accuracy, a new analysis from the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life confirms a growth in secular world-views — and a decline in religious adherence — among U.S. adults."

Looks like the 2000 year long battle of the churches to deny two thirds of what's in the bible has finally been laid on their doorstep. Sometimes it takes a while but fairy tales seem to ultimately lose.

I'm not campaigning against the Bible or Christianity I am campaigning against the Bible and skewed attitudes draw from it as weapons against our fellow man.

Our fellow man is building billion dollar casinos and personal multi-million dollar ocean going yachts while nearly a billion of our fellow man is starving or suffering from mal nutrition. Makes you feel really good about what we've become doesn't it?

Our fellow men built the Coliseum in Rome rather than adequate housing. Our fellow men built the Suez Canal instead of sanitary sewers in Cairo. Our fellow men built the airplane and less than fifteen years later, the bomber.

There will always be inequities. there will always be injustice. But to call for tolerance, to call for equality, to call for justice is something you and I and all our fellow men must do constantly. No one gets points for surrender.

 

[Ava]

I'm sure that back then, if black people could've pretended to be white, they would've.

That's a metaphor. For racism... and homophobia... quite similar things... in case you're unsure.

black People can reproduce and create other blacks, gay People cant reproduce naturally without Technology and create other gays. i dont see it as on the same Level. also discriminating ethnicity shouldnt be considered as same as discriminating sexual preferences because a black Person cant turn White, but a gay Person can live heterosexual if he wants. i read of cases of married men who had their "coming out" so it is possible they have families and live normal.

Michael Jackson became pretty white, unless you believe the whole vitiligo thing. And if you ever pick up a book entitled "Black Like Me" you might learn a few things.

Also homosexual married men, are not always what they seem. A co-worker of mine went home unexpectedly, for lunch, to find her hubby in bed, with another....man.

 

[Cammmpbell]

I'm not campaigning against the Bible or Christianity I am campaigning against the Bible and skewed attitudes draw from it as weapons against our fellow man.

Our fellow man is building billion dollar casinos and personal multi-million dollar ocean going yachts while nearly a billion of our fellow man is starving or suffering from mal nutrition. Makes you feel really good about what we've become doesn't it?

Our fellow men built the Coliseum in Rome rather than adequate housing. Our fellow men built the Suez Canal instead of sanitary sewers in Cairo. Our fellow men built the airplane and less than fifteen years later, the bomber.

There will always be inequities. there will always be injustice. But to call for tolerance, to call for equality, to call for justice is something you and I and all our fellow men must do constantly. No one gets points for surrender.

Especially under Republicans:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

 

[Nosmo King]

Our fellow man is building billion dollar casinos and personal multi-million dollar ocean going yachts while nearly a billion of our fellow man is starving or suffering from mal nutrition. Makes you feel really good about what we've become doesn't it?

Our fellow men built the Coliseum in Rome rather than adequate housing. Our fellow men built the Suez Canal instead of sanitary sewers in Cairo. Our fellow men built the airplane and less than fifteen years later, the bomber.

There will always be inequities. there will always be injustice. But to call for tolerance, to call for equality, to call for justice is something you and I and all our fellow men must do constantly. No one gets points for surrender.

Especially under Republicans:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

focus. The thread is about some idiot and his unfathomable attitudes toward homosexuals. focus. don't derail.

 

[Cammmpbell]

Our fellow men built the Coliseum in Rome rather than adequate housing. Our fellow men built the Suez Canal instead of sanitary sewers in Cairo. Our fellow men built the airplane and less than fifteen years later, the bomber.

There will always be inequities. there will always be injustice. But to call for tolerance, to call for equality, to call for justice is something you and I and all our fellow men must do constantly. No one gets points for surrender.

Especially under Republicans:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

focus. The thread is about some idiot and his unfathomable attitudes toward homosexuals. focus. don't derail.

Sorry....I used to be a Republican when they stood for balanced budgets, small government and individual rights. Now that they don't give a damn about anything except corporations and the wealthy I like to make a point occasionally.

 

[eots]

Scientists claim that homosexuality is not genetic ? but it arises in the womb

Homosexuality isn't genetic, but it is biological. At least that's what these researchers claim.

Bi-sexuality is a bit trickier. I don't know that much about biological causes for bisexuality, but this link should answer your questions.

Scientific U-Turn: Male Bisexuality Is Real | LiveScience

i think same gender sex, should not be viewed as something healthy and normal to live. we shouldnt hate those who are gay if it is biological but maybe view them as someone who is disabled and pitty them. i mean no one would discriminate a disabled guy and everyone is friendly to him, but also no one would say his condition is normal. maybe that is a compromise?

NO!

Being gay isn't a disability. It's natural, and normal. All animals have a homosexual population, it's biological and happens according to nature.

Being gay IS normal.

all animals do not have a a gay population..lol

 

[LittleNipper]

There has always been homosexuality. Accepting it and tolerating is another step in the evolution of society. Can you be tolerant?

So after homosexuality.....what is the next step in the so called evolution of society.......cannibalism?.....beastiality?.......pedophilia?........

Cannibalism? Bestiality? Pedophilia? Can you draw one common thread between them? I can. And I call that thread 'consent'. No one concedes to be eaten. Animals have no way to express consent, and neither do children. But consenting adults, in the privacy of their own homes should be free to express their love for one another just as heterosexual couples do. If gay promiscuity is your hangup, I suggest you examine heterosexual promiscuity for your paradigm.

What a feeble straw man you present.

Promiscurity is what fetish is all about, and Homosexuality is a fetish of peculiar sexual fantasy/habits. Homosexuals are hung up on sex and just because there are heterosexuals that would love to watch, that doesn't mean that they are any more wholesome. Deviant sex is deviant sex no matter who engages in it or why. Homosexuality is presently just an excuse for a sick society to imagine that they are somehow better...

 

[jtpr312]

In the 1950s how many People were gay? Now they seem to be everywhere

I was in my 20's in the 50's. We used to call them Queers. Some just got their asses kicked but others were rolled and robbed. A lot of young men used to call it sport to kick a Gay man's ass. Do you think in that kind of environment a Gay person was likely to let anyone find out?

Shucks....that's not nearly as bad as the "Thou Shalt Not Suffer A Witch To Live" It's just another "SIN" that's nothing but a load of primitive horse shit. The bible has been the reason for millions upon millions of innocent people to be tortured and murdered for no reason other than perceived descrimination. As mankind gets civilized little by little the bible and all it's ancient horse shit will finally be recognized for what it is............rubbish.

Wow, I can't understand how so many people here have no shame when it comes to spewing the most ignorant crap imagined. Aren't you people even slightly embarressed when you post such ignorant and untruthful crap?

 

[yidnar]

In the 1950s how many People were gay? Now they seem to be everywhere

while i believe that some gays [libbs] are born. in some cases i think people choose the gay lifestyle .the invasion of liberalism into schools entertainment ect. in the last 50 yrs contributed to more cock suckers.

 

[Nosmo King]

So after homosexuality.....what is the next step in the so called evolution of society.......cannibalism?.....beastiality?.......pedophilia?........

Cannibalism? Bestiality? Pedophilia? Can you draw one common thread between them? I can. And I call that thread 'consent'. No one concedes to be eaten. Animals have no way to express consent, and neither do children. But consenting adults, in the privacy of their own homes should be free to express their love for one another just as heterosexual couples do. If gay promiscuity is your hangup, I suggest you examine heterosexual promiscuity for your paradigm.

What a feeble straw man you present.

Promiscurity is what fetish is all about, and Homosexuality is a fetish of peculiar sexual fantasy/habits. Homosexuals are hung up on sex and just because there are heterosexuals that would love to watch, that doesn't mean that they are any more wholesome. Deviant sex is deviant sex no matter who engages in it or why. Homosexuality is presently just an excuse for a sick society to imagine that they are somehow better...

How easily you dismiss heterosexual promiscuity. If you haven't noticed, that peculiar form of promiscuity sells everything from automobiles to gym memberships.

And if tolerating homosexuality makes me a better person, so be it. I tolerate it because I'm an American who believes what he was taught about America. Land of the free and so forth.