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Careful, billyerock, this is the Clean Debate Zone. You don't want to get banned, do you?We lost it a while back. Well, a lot of you did.
you of all posters talking about compassion when you say we don't need food stamps ... we don't need to pay for school lunches ... then you try to come across as a person who knows what life is all about??? really!!! give me a break ...
Like I said, this is the Clean Debate Zone, so I see no point in responding to your insults.Careful, billyerock, this is the Clean Debate Zone. You don't want to get banned, do you?
I'll repeat...
you of all posters talking about compassion when you say we don't need food stamps ... we don't need to pay for school lunches ... then you try to come across as a person who knows what life is all about??? really!!! give me a break ... I rest my case ... you couldn't comment about the truths I told about you ...
a deeper hole
There is no link to the story.
But I have heard of this already - its sickening.
There are hundreds of thousands of public and private shelters scattered around the Country. The problem is that the majority of "homeless" people refuse to abide by simple rules that exist in humanity. Some are genuinely crazy and should be institutionalized for their own health and protection and some are so addicted to substance abuse that it will eventually kill them. Throwing more federal dollars to poverty pimps to distribute for votes for democrats is a proven failure.
no we liberals believe that we should all pay ... by opening mental institution for the mentally ill ... that we should open homes for the homeless to help them get back on their feet ... by educating them in a job that they would like to do ... educate someone with what they enjoy doing and they will work for life ... put them in a job that they hate they will quit as we all do ... but to say "He believes that charity starts in the pocket of his neighbor" is uneducated thinking ...One can't help but wonder if Luddly invites homeless people to sleep on his sofa.
He believes that charity starts in the pocket of his neighbor...
no bill clinton said sexual relations ...which is define as sexual intercourse ... sexual intercourse isn't a hand job nor is it oral sex ... I can't help you don't understand what he was saying ... when he was accuse of have sexual relations ... Bill Clinton never said he wasn't having sexSo people do not want drug addicts and nut cases sleeping on their doorstep. So whats the newsflash here? What do you expect people to do when they see a homeless guy lying on the sidewalk? Give him a hundred dollars and a hand job? Be real.
WTF is this totally bizarre Right-Wing obsession with gay sex?
Damn, that is just plain old weird.
I think according to right winger Bill Clinton, hand jobs aren't sex. They certainly shouldn't be if blow jobs aren't counted either.
no bill clinton said sexual relations ...which is define as sexual intercourse ... sexual intercourse isn't a hand job nor is it oral sex ... I can't help you don't understand what he was saying ... when he was accuse of have sexual relations ... Bill Clinton never said he wasn't having sexWTF is this totally bizarre Right-Wing obsession with gay sex?
Damn, that is just plain old weird.
I think according to right winger Bill Clinton, hand jobs aren't sex. They certainly shouldn't be if blow jobs aren't counted either.
no bill clinton said sexual relations ...which is define as sexual intercourse ... sexual intercourse isn't a hand job nor is it oral sex ... I can't help you don't understand what he was saying ... when he was accuse of have sexual relations ... Bill Clinton never said he wasn't having sexI think according to right winger Bill Clinton, hand jobs aren't sex. They certainly shouldn't be if blow jobs aren't counted either.
Ha. Sexual intercourse - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary Sexual intercourse:
1: heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2
: intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis
I must admit I'm among those who do not understand why any mentally stable individual would choose to endure the discomforts, the humiliation, and probably the miseries of being without a reasonably comfortable and safe place to retreat to.One thing many people don't understand is there is a percentage of the population where homelessness is a way of life. They choose to be homeless. Even if we find a place for every homeless person to live, there is a percentage that would refuse to take advantage of that shelter.
How did you learn about this category of homeless people? Have you met any of them? If so, do you consider them mentally stable? Is it possible they choose living on the street rather than living in what today are typical shelters because of the general quality of those places? Based on what I've learned most of these so-called shelters are in some ways worse than living on the street. They are sparsely funded and have been described as "prisons without guards" where peaceful residents are abused by assaultive, predatory residents.
Part of that problem is that those groups tend to go to a business rather than the community that they area part of. As you mentioned, we are getting disconnected because we expect 'someone else' to take care of these things. That is what government taking the role over does. That is just plane asinine.No good deed goes unpunished is more true today than ever.
Another angle in this debate is that more and more people expect the government to do the humanitarian thing. Take the poster that wants to talk about food stamps and school lunches. Ok then if you are spending so much of my money on that then I can spend time thinking about other things. So socialism leads to less individual humanitarianism, it disconnects us from thinking about it because govt is taking care of this. Socialism breaks down the inter connectivity and the conscious caring among people because it assigns that obligation to govt. I. E. Another reason it is bad for us.
As a tangent to the caring part in this thread, which has until recently turned out to be a good one, let me vent about young people asking for money for worthy causes. Living in a small town you will find that anytime the cheerleaders, the class trip, uniforms for the volleyball team, summer programs for athletes, church activities, and on and on want money the first place they go to is the local businesses. We have become swamped with so many requests, most all worthy, that there is no way we can give to any of them. The constant drumbeat for money is verwhelming and the costs of all of these activities now is off the charts. 3000 for a class trip per person is insane, especially for for a poor family in this area. My point is just that while you want to help the requests for donations are unlimited and the ability to contribute is very limited.
I must admit I'm among those who do not understand why any mentally stable individual would choose to endure the discomforts, the humiliation, and probably the miseries of being without a reasonably comfortable and safe place to retreat to.One thing many people don't understand is there is a percentage of the population where homelessness is a way of life. They choose to be homeless. Even if we find a place for every homeless person to live, there is a percentage that would refuse to take advantage of that shelter.
How did you learn about this category of homeless people? Have you met any of them? If so, do you consider them mentally stable? Is it possible they choose living on the street rather than living in what today are typical shelters because of the general quality of those places? Based on what I've learned most of these so-called shelters are in some ways worse than living on the street. They are sparsely funded and have been described as "prisons without guards" where peaceful residents are abused by assaultive, predatory residents.
I agree, I can't understand anyone wanting to live homeless. That said, one of my good friend's brother is doing exactly that. He met a woman that lived homeless as her way of life. They have been living in Las Vegas for the past 15 years. My friend will go to Vegas to see him occationally, and to offer them a place to live. But they don't want one. It's their lifestyle.
no we liberals believe that we should all pay ... by opening mental institution for the mentally ill ... that we should open homes for the homeless to help them get back on their feet ... by educating them in a job that they would like to do ... educate someone with what they enjoy doing and they will work for life ... put them in a job that they hate they will quit as we all do ... but to say "He believes that charity starts in the pocket of his neighbor" is uneducated thinking ...One can't help but wonder if Luddly invites homeless people to sleep on his sofa.
He believes that charity starts in the pocket of his neighbor...
no we liberals believe that we should all pay ... by opening mental institution for the mentally ill ... that we should open homes for the homeless to help them get back on their feet ... by educating them in a job that they would like to do ... educate someone with what they enjoy doing and they will work for life ... put them in a job that they hate they will quit as we all do ... but to say "He believes that charity starts in the pocket of his neighbor" is uneducated thinking ...He believes that charity starts in the pocket of his neighbor...
What is the name of the charitable organization that you have started to accomplish said goals?
You should post a link to back it up instead of expecting me to give you credibility by responding to an erroneous accusation.Like I said, this is the Clean Debate Zone, so I see no point in responding to your insults.I'll repeat...
you of all posters talking about compassion when you say we don't need food stamps ... we don't need to pay for school lunches ... then you try to come across as a person who knows what life is all about??? really!!! give me a break ... I rest my case ... you couldn't comment about the truths I told about you ...
well you seem to like to drop the F bomb here a lot I would say thats not to Clean Debate Zonedish ... I have I simply made a statement, that you couldn't seem to deny here ... you said we don't need welfare ... you've said we don't need food stamps .... you've said we don't need school lunches ... are you now denying thats this is your position ??? that am i wrong in posting here what you said in the past ??? and please explain to us here how is it a insult in quoting to people here what you have said in the passed ... are you now ashamed of your past post, or are you just not to proud of what you've said in the past ... which is it ??? you can tell us!!! or are you just
no we liberals believe that we should all pay ... by opening mental institution for the mentally ill ... that we should open homes for the homeless to help them get back on their feet ... by educating them in a job that they would like to do ... educate someone with what they enjoy doing and they will work for life ... put them in a job that they hate they will quit as we all do ... but to say "He believes that charity starts in the pocket of his neighbor" is uneducated thinking ...He believes that charity starts in the pocket of his neighbor...
What is the name of the charitable organization that you have started to accomplish said goals?
thats right its the job of the federal government to force you degenerates to pay for the housing of the crazy people of this country ... its the job of the federal government to force you degenerates to pay for the housing of criminal or should we leave the housing of criminals to charity too ??? how many prison charity have you started ... if thats not the most stupidest answer I seen so far????no we liberals believe that we should all pay ... by opening mental institution for the mentally ill ... that we should open homes for the homeless to help them get back on their feet ... by educating them in a job that they would like to do ... educate someone with what they enjoy doing and they will work for life ... put them in a job that they hate they will quit as we all do ... but to say "He believes that charity starts in the pocket of his neighbor" is uneducated thinking ...
What is the name of the charitable organization that you have started to accomplish said goals
It called the US government - here to force YOU to pay for his ideals....
You should post a link to back it up instead of expecting me to give you credibility by responding to an erroneous accusation.Like I said, this is the Clean Debate Zone, so I see no point in responding to your insults.
well you seem to like to drop the F bomb here a lot I would say thats not to Clean Debate Zonedish ... I have I simply made a statement, that you couldn't seem to deny here ... you said we don't need welfare ... you've said we don't need food stamps .... you've said we don't need school lunches ... are you now denying thats this is your position ??? that am i wrong in posting here what you said in the past ??? and please explain to us here how is it a insult in quoting to people here what you have said in the passed ... are you now ashamed of your past post, or are you just not to proud of what you've said in the past ... which is it ??? you can tell us!!! or are you just
a deeper hole for yourself ...
Help them with an opportunity to earn money. If they turn it down, walk away. 9 times out of 10 they will turn it down.
