Are the numerous dog breeds proof of evolution?

[WinterBorn]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

A Great Pyrenee was not bred to catch anything. It protects. It is a livestock guardian. It can withstand extremes of weather and will not back down when protecting it's herd or flock.

A great pyrenees can not survive in the wild because there will not be other great pyrenees to breed with. Seriously if you have a brain you can turn it on now or is the gin in charge again

The breed will not stay true, but the dog will survive. And lay off the "gin" jokes.

The breed dies, and given enough time and mixing with wild canines, wolves and coyotes they will become pure wolves and coyotes once again.

Gin abuse is not a joke, you need to accept this

Yes, the breeds will mix and they will all become various versions of wolves and coyotes.

I do not abuse gin. And you are a liar to claim that I do. I have explained to you why I do not think you are funny with this shit. Now stay on topic.

In the long term all domestic dog traits die and the wolf reigns again as human surrogates only bred mutated wolves meaning that the DNA of a dachshund says that it is a wolf. This precludes there being any evolution. Pretty cool that my previous threads on this topic were scavenged

Yawn

Even among wolves there are different traits that breed through in different geographic areas.

The Arctic Wolf would not thrive in the desert. The Arabian Wolf would not thrive in the Yukon.

 

[Dusty]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

A Great Pyrenee was not bred to catch anything. It protects. It is a livestock guardian. It can withstand extremes of weather and will not back down when protecting it's herd or flock.

A great pyrenees can not survive in the wild because there will not be other great pyrenees to breed with. Seriously if you have a brain you can turn it on now or is the gin in charge again

The breed will not stay true, but the dog will survive. And lay off the "gin" jokes.

The breed dies, and given enough time and mixing with wild canines, wolves and coyotes they will become pure wolves and coyotes once again.

Gin abuse is not a joke, you need to accept this

Yes, the breeds will mix and they will all become various versions of wolves and coyotes.

I do not abuse gin. And you are a liar to claim that I do. I have explained to you why I do not think you are funny with this shit. Now stay on topic.

In the long term all domestic dog traits die and the wolf reigns again as human surrogates only bred mutated wolves meaning that the DNA of a dachshund says that it is a wolf. This precludes there being any evolution. Pretty cool that my previous threads on this topic were scavenged

Yawn

Even among wolves there are different traits that breed through in different geographic areas.

The Arctic Wolf would not thrive in the desert. The Arabian Wolf would not thrive in the Yukon.

The American wolf varies in color from Mexico to the arctic, other than color they are exactly the same animal. White is merely a camouflage advantage in high snow areas, most of these animals are grey which is a mix of black and white which all the animals carry

 

[WinterBorn]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

A Great Pyrenee was not bred to catch anything. It protects. It is a livestock guardian. It can withstand extremes of weather and will not back down when protecting it's herd or flock.

A great pyrenees can not survive in the wild because there will not be other great pyrenees to breed with. Seriously if you have a brain you can turn it on now or is the gin in charge again

The breed will not stay true, but the dog will survive. And lay off the "gin" jokes.

The breed dies, and given enough time and mixing with wild canines, wolves and coyotes they will become pure wolves and coyotes once again.

Gin abuse is not a joke, you need to accept this

Yes, the breeds will mix and they will all become various versions of wolves and coyotes.

I do not abuse gin. And you are a liar to claim that I do. I have explained to you why I do not think you are funny with this shit. Now stay on topic.

In the long term all domestic dog traits die and the wolf reigns again as human surrogates only bred mutated wolves meaning that the DNA of a dachshund says that it is a wolf. This precludes there being any evolution. Pretty cool that my previous threads on this topic were scavenged

Yawn

Even among wolves there are different traits that breed through in different geographic areas.

The Arctic Wolf would not thrive in the desert. The Arabian Wolf would not thrive in the Yukon.

The American wolf varies in color from Mexico to the arctic, other than color they are exactly the same animal. White is merely a camouflage advantage in high snow areas, most of these animals are grey which is a mix of black and white which all the animals carry

It is not just color. Thickness of coat varies, which makes climate a factor. Size differences also make a difference, in both surviving climate and amount of calories needed.

 

[Dusty]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

A Great Pyrenee was not bred to catch anything. It protects. It is a livestock guardian. It can withstand extremes of weather and will not back down when protecting it's herd or flock.

A great pyrenees can not survive in the wild because there will not be other great pyrenees to breed with. Seriously if you have a brain you can turn it on now or is the gin in charge again

The breed will not stay true, but the dog will survive. And lay off the "gin" jokes.

The breed dies, and given enough time and mixing with wild canines, wolves and coyotes they will become pure wolves and coyotes once again.

Gin abuse is not a joke, you need to accept this

Yes, the breeds will mix and they will all become various versions of wolves and coyotes.

I do not abuse gin. And you are a liar to claim that I do. I have explained to you why I do not think you are funny with this shit. Now stay on topic.

In the long term all domestic dog traits die and the wolf reigns again as human surrogates only bred mutated wolves meaning that the DNA of a dachshund says that it is a wolf. This precludes there being any evolution. Pretty cool that my previous threads on this topic were scavenged

Yawn

Even among wolves there are different traits that breed through in different geographic areas.

The Arctic Wolf would not thrive in the desert. The Arabian Wolf would not thrive in the Yukon.

The American wolf varies in color from Mexico to the arctic, other than color they are exactly the same animal. White is merely a camouflage advantage in high snow areas, most of these animals are grey which is a mix of black and white which all the animals carry

It is not just color. Thickness of coat varies, which makes climate a factor. Size differences also make a difference, in both surviving climate and amount of calories needed.

Again why don't you tell us what dog breed is better evolved than the wolf and also which one could survive without humans because the answer is none.

As for the American wolf they are all genetically identical except that black genes are more common farther south and white genes are more common farther north. The coat of a southern American wolf will thicken if it moves to the northern range.

Size is determined by a ratio of speed to power as the larger an animal the slower it is and the less time it has before reserves run out so larger is a disadvantage in the chase while size is advantageous in the kill itself, so size is not determined by climate

 

[WinterBorn]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

A Great Pyrenee was not bred to catch anything. It protects. It is a livestock guardian. It can withstand extremes of weather and will not back down when protecting it's herd or flock.

A great pyrenees can not survive in the wild because there will not be other great pyrenees to breed with. Seriously if you have a brain you can turn it on now or is the gin in charge again

The breed will not stay true, but the dog will survive. And lay off the "gin" jokes.

The breed dies, and given enough time and mixing with wild canines, wolves and coyotes they will become pure wolves and coyotes once again.

Gin abuse is not a joke, you need to accept this

Yes, the breeds will mix and they will all become various versions of wolves and coyotes.

I do not abuse gin. And you are a liar to claim that I do. I have explained to you why I do not think you are funny with this shit. Now stay on topic.

In the long term all domestic dog traits die and the wolf reigns again as human surrogates only bred mutated wolves meaning that the DNA of a dachshund says that it is a wolf. This precludes there being any evolution. Pretty cool that my previous threads on this topic were scavenged

Yawn

Even among wolves there are different traits that breed through in different geographic areas.

The Arctic Wolf would not thrive in the desert. The Arabian Wolf would not thrive in the Yukon.

The American wolf varies in color from Mexico to the arctic, other than color they are exactly the same animal. White is merely a camouflage advantage in high snow areas, most of these animals are grey which is a mix of black and white which all the animals carry

It is not just color. Thickness of coat varies, which makes climate a factor. Size differences also make a difference, in both surviving climate and amount of calories needed.

Again why don't you tell us what dog breed is better evolved than the wolf and also which one could survive without humans because the answer is none.

As for the American wolf they are all genetically identical except that black genes are more common farther south and white genes are more common farther north. The coat of a southern American wolf will thicken if it moves to the northern range.

Size is determined by a ratio of speed to power as the larger an animal the slower it is and the less time it has before reserves run out so larger is a disadvantage in the chase while size is advantageous in the kill itself, so size is not determined by climate

Climate does have an effect on both. An animal with thick, dark fur will overheat easier. A larger animal, with more mass will have a harder to shedding heat. In both cases it will be an advantage in colder climates and a liability in a hotter climate.

 

[Dusty]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

A Great Pyrenee was not bred to catch anything. It protects. It is a livestock guardian. It can withstand extremes of weather and will not back down when protecting it's herd or flock.

A great pyrenees can not survive in the wild because there will not be other great pyrenees to breed with. Seriously if you have a brain you can turn it on now or is the gin in charge again

The breed will not stay true, but the dog will survive. And lay off the "gin" jokes.

The breed dies, and given enough time and mixing with wild canines, wolves and coyotes they will become pure wolves and coyotes once again.

Gin abuse is not a joke, you need to accept this

Yes, the breeds will mix and they will all become various versions of wolves and coyotes.

I do not abuse gin. And you are a liar to claim that I do. I have explained to you why I do not think you are funny with this shit. Now stay on topic.

In the long term all domestic dog traits die and the wolf reigns again as human surrogates only bred mutated wolves meaning that the DNA of a dachshund says that it is a wolf. This precludes there being any evolution. Pretty cool that my previous threads on this topic were scavenged

Yawn

Even among wolves there are different traits that breed through in different geographic areas.

The Arctic Wolf would not thrive in the desert. The Arabian Wolf would not thrive in the Yukon.

The American wolf varies in color from Mexico to the arctic, other than color they are exactly the same animal. White is merely a camouflage advantage in high snow areas, most of these animals are grey which is a mix of black and white which all the animals carry

It is not just color. Thickness of coat varies, which makes climate a factor. Size differences also make a difference, in both surviving climate and amount of calories needed.

Again why don't you tell us what dog breed is better evolved than the wolf and also which one could survive without humans because the answer is none.

As for the American wolf they are all genetically identical except that black genes are more common farther south and white genes are more common farther north. The coat of a southern American wolf will thicken if it moves to the northern range.

Size is determined by a ratio of speed to power as the larger an animal the slower it is and the less time it has before reserves run out so larger is a disadvantage in the chase while size is advantageous in the kill itself, so size is not determined by climate

Climate does have an effect on both. An animal with thick, dark fur will overheat easier. A larger animal, with more mass will have a harder to shedding heat. In both cases it will be an advantage in colder climates and a liability in a hotter climate.

Again wolves gain or shed hair depending on the temp, as for the rest of your babble it just does not occur in the American wolf, the bigger animals are the best fed animals no matter what the climate.

In more interesting news you have shrugged away from dogs being evolved over wolves because you can not substantiate this in any way as every logical advantage goes to natural versus human selection.

It's OK everyone sees it my way, though I enjoy sparring with actual PhD's rather than expert gin rummy players

 

[sealybobo]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

It’s the better evolved dog not the most evolved. You don’t know what evolve means. You think it has to be positive?

 

[sealybobo]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

A Great Pyrenee was not bred to catch anything. It protects. It is a livestock guardian. It can withstand extremes of weather and will not back down when protecting it's herd or flock.

A great pyrenees can not survive in the wild because there will not be other great pyrenees to breed with. Seriously if you have a brain you can turn it on now or is the gin in charge again

The breed will not stay true, but the dog will survive. And lay off the "gin" jokes.

The breed dies, and given enough time and mixing with wild canines, wolves and coyotes they will become pure wolves and coyotes once again.

Gin abuse is not a joke, you need to accept this

Yes, the breeds will mix and they will all become various versions of wolves and coyotes.

I do not abuse gin. And you are a liar to claim that I do. I have explained to you why I do not think you are funny with this shit. Now stay on topic.

In the long term all domestic dog traits die and the wolf reigns again as human surrogates only bred mutated wolves meaning that the DNA of a dachshund says that it is a wolf. This precludes there being any evolution. Pretty cool that my previous threads on this topic were scavenged

Yawn

We could do the same with humans. Breed only the nicest, smallest and dumbest ones so they never cause any trouble and never challenge us and work for us cheap. Make the male penis’ too big for the female vaginas so we have to artificially impregnate the females. This would still be evolution.

 

[sealybobo]

From dogs being "proof of evolution" to a pissing contest in turkey hunting.
Pretty pathetic when the *Moderator* (sick) is in the middle of it and can't untie his little weenie from the pissing contest.

And a poster getting pissy about where a thread went.

Feel free to report me.

That's it I am notifying the hall monitor about you and after school I am telling your Mommy that you said a bad word

I have a feeling you were one of those kids in school who would do just that.

So do you still have a picture of your alcoholic father hanging over your full bar?

You should have read the rules, asshole.

Let’s get back on subject. I was thinking about how we might be smarter than black people because for 400 plus years we didn’t even let them read. So we held their brain development back. People will say that’s racist but there is truth to it. I saw this
The human brain has evolved gradually over the passage of time; a series of incremental changes occurred as a result of external stimuli and conditions.

There have been studies that strongly support the idea that the level of intelligence associated with humans is not unique to our species. Scholars suggest that this could have, in part, been caused by convergent evolution. One common characteristic that is present in species of "high degree intelligence" (i.e. dolphins, great apes, and humans - Homo sapiens) is a brain of enlarged size.

You cant be smarter than Black people. Youre talking about holding back a relatively small population of Black people for 400 years. Evolution held europeans back for thousands of years while Africans were developing civilizations. Then whites in europe devolved again during the dark ages only to be rescued by Africans again. Thats why western civilization exists today. The Greeks learned from Africans and then Africans educated the rest of europe before finally leaving the year or the year before Columbus sailed to north america. (with the help of Africans)

Don’t you feel stupid now for helping us back then?

 

[sealybobo]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

A Great Pyrenee was not bred to catch anything. It protects. It is a livestock guardian. It can withstand extremes of weather and will not back down when protecting it's herd or flock.

A great pyrenees can not survive in the wild because there will not be other great pyrenees to breed with. Seriously if you have a brain you can turn it on now or is the gin in charge again

The breed will not stay true, but the dog will survive. And lay off the "gin" jokes.

The breed dies, and given enough time and mixing with wild canines, wolves and coyotes they will become pure wolves and coyotes once again.

Gin abuse is not a joke, you need to accept this

Yes, the breeds will mix and they will all become various versions of wolves and coyotes.

I do not abuse gin. And you are a liar to claim that I do. I have explained to you why I do not think you are funny with this shit. Now stay on topic.

In the long term all domestic dog traits die and the wolf reigns again as human surrogates only bred mutated wolves meaning that the DNA of a dachshund says that it is a wolf. This precludes there being any evolution. Pretty cool that my previous threads on this topic were scavenged

Yawn

You clearly don’t understand the theory of evolution. Your arguments prove it. Doesn’t matter if the wolf is the best. By selective breeding we decided what was best. If we wanted a guard dog aggression was best. If we wanted a family friendly pet we decided a non violent trait was best so we made it so.

Nature wouldn’t have made the dogs we made correct.

 

[Dusty]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

It’s the better evolved dog not the most evolved. You don’t know what evolve means. You think it has to be positive?

You are wrong again as usual because no dog breed can reproduce without human intervention because left to their own all dog breeds would vanish as no dog is capable of selective breeding so mutts are the result when dogs are left to their own of which few could survive in the wild. Given enough time for the mutts to both die off and begin interbreeding with their wild cousins the wolf genes are still dominant and the most evolved canine genes. So technically there are no dog breeds as they are all selectively mutated wolves.

So you shoot any dogs to save the world today officer Shirley

 

[Dusty]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

A Great Pyrenee was not bred to catch anything. It protects. It is a livestock guardian. It can withstand extremes of weather and will not back down when protecting it's herd or flock.

A great pyrenees can not survive in the wild because there will not be other great pyrenees to breed with. Seriously if you have a brain you can turn it on now or is the gin in charge again

The breed will not stay true, but the dog will survive. And lay off the "gin" jokes.

The breed dies, and given enough time and mixing with wild canines, wolves and coyotes they will become pure wolves and coyotes once again.

Gin abuse is not a joke, you need to accept this

Yes, the breeds will mix and they will all become various versions of wolves and coyotes.

I do not abuse gin. And you are a liar to claim that I do. I have explained to you why I do not think you are funny with this shit. Now stay on topic.

In the long term all domestic dog traits die and the wolf reigns again as human surrogates only bred mutated wolves meaning that the DNA of a dachshund says that it is a wolf. This precludes there being any evolution. Pretty cool that my previous threads on this topic were scavenged

Yawn

We could do the same with humans. Breed only the nicest, smallest and dumbest ones so they never cause any trouble and never challenge us and work for us cheap. Make the male penis’ too big for the female vaginas so we have to artificially impregnate the females. This would still be evolution.

I assume that by we you are referring to you and your redneck officer friends at the moose lodge

 

[Dusty]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

A Great Pyrenee was not bred to catch anything. It protects. It is a livestock guardian. It can withstand extremes of weather and will not back down when protecting it's herd or flock.

A great pyrenees can not survive in the wild because there will not be other great pyrenees to breed with. Seriously if you have a brain you can turn it on now or is the gin in charge again

The breed will not stay true, but the dog will survive. And lay off the "gin" jokes.

The breed dies, and given enough time and mixing with wild canines, wolves and coyotes they will become pure wolves and coyotes once again.

Gin abuse is not a joke, you need to accept this

Yes, the breeds will mix and they will all become various versions of wolves and coyotes.

I do not abuse gin. And you are a liar to claim that I do. I have explained to you why I do not think you are funny with this shit. Now stay on topic.

In the long term all domestic dog traits die and the wolf reigns again as human surrogates only bred mutated wolves meaning that the DNA of a dachshund says that it is a wolf. This precludes there being any evolution. Pretty cool that my previous threads on this topic were scavenged

Yawn

You clearly don’t understand the theory of evolution. Your arguments prove it. Doesn’t matter if the wolf is the best. By selective breeding we decided what was best. If we wanted a guard dog aggression was best. If we wanted a family friendly pet we decided a non violent trait was best so we made it so.

Nature wouldn’t have made the dogs we made correct.

Indeed the pug is a wonder of evolution meant to be able to keep up with you on the ebike

 

[sealybobo]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

It’s the better evolved dog not the most evolved. You don’t know what evolve means. You think it has to be positive?

You are wrong again as usual because no dog breed can reproduce without human intervention because left to their own all dog breeds would vanish as no dog is capable of selective breeding so mutts are the result when dogs are left to their own of which few could survive in the wild. Given enough time for the mutts to both die off and begin interbreeding with their wild cousins the wolf genes are still dominant and the most evolved canine genes. So technically there are no dog breeds as they are all selectively mutated wolves.

So you shoot any dogs to save the world today officer Shirley

So what?

 

[sealybobo]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

A Great Pyrenee was not bred to catch anything. It protects. It is a livestock guardian. It can withstand extremes of weather and will not back down when protecting it's herd or flock.

A great pyrenees can not survive in the wild because there will not be other great pyrenees to breed with. Seriously if you have a brain you can turn it on now or is the gin in charge again

The breed will not stay true, but the dog will survive. And lay off the "gin" jokes.

The breed dies, and given enough time and mixing with wild canines, wolves and coyotes they will become pure wolves and coyotes once again.

Gin abuse is not a joke, you need to accept this

Yes, the breeds will mix and they will all become various versions of wolves and coyotes.

I do not abuse gin. And you are a liar to claim that I do. I have explained to you why I do not think you are funny with this shit. Now stay on topic.

In the long term all domestic dog traits die and the wolf reigns again as human surrogates only bred mutated wolves meaning that the DNA of a dachshund says that it is a wolf. This precludes there being any evolution. Pretty cool that my previous threads on this topic were scavenged

Yawn

You clearly don’t understand the theory of evolution. Your arguments prove it. Doesn’t matter if the wolf is the best. By selective breeding we decided what was best. If we wanted a guard dog aggression was best. If we wanted a family friendly pet we decided a non violent trait was best so we made it so.

Nature wouldn’t have made the dogs we made correct.

Indeed the pug is a wonder of evolution meant to be able to keep up with you on the ebike

Still there is your proof of evolution. If we could breed a wolf with a better canine like say a gsp, we could make a better evolved dog but we got nothing better.

I suppose we have helped the wolves get better. Any dumb ones that get too close to humans get killed. So we’ve helped make wolves evolve to be a better species. And we kill off the dumb ones.

 

[Dusty]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

A Great Pyrenee was not bred to catch anything. It protects. It is a livestock guardian. It can withstand extremes of weather and will not back down when protecting it's herd or flock.

A great pyrenees can not survive in the wild because there will not be other great pyrenees to breed with. Seriously if you have a brain you can turn it on now or is the gin in charge again

The breed will not stay true, but the dog will survive. And lay off the "gin" jokes.

The breed dies, and given enough time and mixing with wild canines, wolves and coyotes they will become pure wolves and coyotes once again.

Gin abuse is not a joke, you need to accept this

Yes, the breeds will mix and they will all become various versions of wolves and coyotes.

I do not abuse gin. And you are a liar to claim that I do. I have explained to you why I do not think you are funny with this shit. Now stay on topic.

In the long term all domestic dog traits die and the wolf reigns again as human surrogates only bred mutated wolves meaning that the DNA of a dachshund says that it is a wolf. This precludes there being any evolution. Pretty cool that my previous threads on this topic were scavenged

Yawn

You clearly don’t understand the theory of evolution. Your arguments prove it. Doesn’t matter if the wolf is the best. By selective breeding we decided what was best. If we wanted a guard dog aggression was best. If we wanted a family friendly pet we decided a non violent trait was best so we made it so.

Nature wouldn’t have made the dogs we made correct.

Indeed the pug is a wonder of evolution meant to be able to keep up with you on the ebike

Still there is your proof of evolution. If we could breed a wolf with a better canine like say a gsp, we could make a better evolved dog but we got nothing better.

I suppose we have helped the wolves get better. Any dumb ones that get too close to humans get killed. So we’ve helped make wolves evolve to be a better species. And we kill off the dumb ones.

So you shoot every animal that you can find then declare that you improved the species by only shooting the dumb ones. Again here is your selectively bred jogging partner, so go get em tigger

 

[Dusty]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

A Great Pyrenee was not bred to catch anything. It protects. It is a livestock guardian. It can withstand extremes of weather and will not back down when protecting it's herd or flock.

A great pyrenees can not survive in the wild because there will not be other great pyrenees to breed with. Seriously if you have a brain you can turn it on now or is the gin in charge again

The breed will not stay true, but the dog will survive. And lay off the "gin" jokes.

The breed dies, and given enough time and mixing with wild canines, wolves and coyotes they will become pure wolves and coyotes once again.

Gin abuse is not a joke, you need to accept this

Yes, the breeds will mix and they will all become various versions of wolves and coyotes.

I do not abuse gin. And you are a liar to claim that I do. I have explained to you why I do not think you are funny with this shit. Now stay on topic.

In the long term all domestic dog traits die and the wolf reigns again as human surrogates only bred mutated wolves meaning that the DNA of a dachshund says that it is a wolf. This precludes there being any evolution. Pretty cool that my previous threads on this topic were scavenged

Yawn

You clearly don’t understand the theory of evolution. Your arguments prove it. Doesn’t matter if the wolf is the best. By selective breeding we decided what was best. If we wanted a guard dog aggression was best. If we wanted a family friendly pet we decided a non violent trait was best so we made it so.

Nature wouldn’t have made the dogs we made correct.

Indeed the pug is a wonder of evolution meant to be able to keep up with you on the ebike

Still there is your proof of evolution. If we could breed a wolf with a better canine like say a gsp, we could make a better evolved dog but we got nothing better.

I suppose we have helped the wolves get better. Any dumb ones that get too close to humans get killed. So we’ve helped make wolves evolve to be a better species. And we kill off the dumb ones.

You get tired of farting?

 

[sealybobo]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

A Great Pyrenee was not bred to catch anything. It protects. It is a livestock guardian. It can withstand extremes of weather and will not back down when protecting it's herd or flock.

A great pyrenees can not survive in the wild because there will not be other great pyrenees to breed with. Seriously if you have a brain you can turn it on now or is the gin in charge again

The breed will not stay true, but the dog will survive. And lay off the "gin" jokes.

The breed dies, and given enough time and mixing with wild canines, wolves and coyotes they will become pure wolves and coyotes once again.

Gin abuse is not a joke, you need to accept this

Yes, the breeds will mix and they will all become various versions of wolves and coyotes.

I do not abuse gin. And you are a liar to claim that I do. I have explained to you why I do not think you are funny with this shit. Now stay on topic.

In the long term all domestic dog traits die and the wolf reigns again as human surrogates only bred mutated wolves meaning that the DNA of a dachshund says that it is a wolf. This precludes there being any evolution. Pretty cool that my previous threads on this topic were scavenged

Yawn

You clearly don’t understand the theory of evolution. Your arguments prove it. Doesn’t matter if the wolf is the best. By selective breeding we decided what was best. If we wanted a guard dog aggression was best. If we wanted a family friendly pet we decided a non violent trait was best so we made it so.

Nature wouldn’t have made the dogs we made correct.

Indeed the pug is a wonder of evolution meant to be able to keep up with you on the ebike

Still there is your proof of evolution. If we could breed a wolf with a better canine like say a gsp, we could make a better evolved dog but we got nothing better.

I suppose we have helped the wolves get better. Any dumb ones that get too close to humans get killed. So we’ve helped make wolves evolve to be a better species. And we kill off the dumb ones.

You get tired of farting?

I was talking about you at the dog park. My buddy has 2 GSP's. He deer hunts but he ONLY takes his GSP hunting birds. His wife said, "he points at mice too". So basically a GSP is good for bird and mice.

And she says they are a handful in the home. She needs to run them or they are obnoxious.

And we talked about how you are correct that if human's disappeared eventually the dogs that survive and procreate will eventually turn back into wolves because wolves are the ideal dog and would dominate the species. Even the GSP's.

 

[Dusty]

Dusty, let's get back on topic. Address the topic of dog breeds and whether they are proof of evolution. Or at least stick with dogs.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves, if anything de-evolution happened. Some dog breeds can neither mate, conceive or birth naturally meaning that a human artificially inseminates the female then does a c section to allow for birthing. This is not evolution, it is a severely morbidly mutated wolf

In some cases that is accurate. In other cases, selective breeding may be imitating evolution, since the more desirable traits carry through and aid the animal.

What dog breed has better traits for surviving than a wolf?

Hmmm, a great pyrenees? nope too big to catch anything and they will not be imitating sheep in the wild

A Husky because they run, nope they are slow as hell, just persistent

However it's all irrelevant because to dogs there are no dog breeds so the wolf is still the most evolved

A Great Pyrenee was not bred to catch anything. It protects. It is a livestock guardian. It can withstand extremes of weather and will not back down when protecting it's herd or flock.

A great pyrenees can not survive in the wild because there will not be other great pyrenees to breed with. Seriously if you have a brain you can turn it on now or is the gin in charge again

The breed will not stay true, but the dog will survive. And lay off the "gin" jokes.

The breed dies, and given enough time and mixing with wild canines, wolves and coyotes they will become pure wolves and coyotes once again.

Gin abuse is not a joke, you need to accept this

Yes, the breeds will mix and they will all become various versions of wolves and coyotes.

I do not abuse gin. And you are a liar to claim that I do. I have explained to you why I do not think you are funny with this shit. Now stay on topic.

In the long term all domestic dog traits die and the wolf reigns again as human surrogates only bred mutated wolves meaning that the DNA of a dachshund says that it is a wolf. This precludes there being any evolution. Pretty cool that my previous threads on this topic were scavenged

Yawn

You clearly don’t understand the theory of evolution. Your arguments prove it. Doesn’t matter if the wolf is the best. By selective breeding we decided what was best. If we wanted a guard dog aggression was best. If we wanted a family friendly pet we decided a non violent trait was best so we made it so.

Nature wouldn’t have made the dogs we made correct.

Indeed the pug is a wonder of evolution meant to be able to keep up with you on the ebike

Still there is your proof of evolution. If we could breed a wolf with a better canine like say a gsp, we could make a better evolved dog but we got nothing better.

I suppose we have helped the wolves get better. Any dumb ones that get too close to humans get killed. So we’ve helped make wolves evolve to be a better species. And we kill off the dumb ones.

You get tired of farting?

I was talking about you at the dog park. My buddy has 2 GSP's. He deer hunts but he ONLY takes his GSP hunting birds. His wife said, "he points at mice too". So basically a GSP is good for bird and mice.

And she says they are a handful in the home. She needs to run them or they are obnoxious.

And we talked about how you are correct that if human's disappeared eventually the dogs that survive and procreate will eventually turn back into wolves because wolves are the ideal dog and would dominate the species. Even the GSP's.

A GSP tracks, hunts, points and retrieves anything from flies to deer and wild boar or even dumbasses lost in the woods with Benji

So you shoot any dogs today genius, you know the dogs that might find your secret pot groves along your ebike trail. LOL so you take Benji to the fenced in doggie park so that he does not get lost in the woods or worse get eaten by the dog eating whitetail. Hysterical, my dogs hate the dog park as all the patrons are retarded

What about that officer shirley.

 

[sealybobo]

From dogs being "proof of evolution" to a pissing contest in turkey hunting.
Pretty pathetic when the *Moderator* (sick) is in the middle of it and can't untie his little weenie from the pissing contest.

And a poster getting pissy about where a thread went.

Feel free to report me.

That's it I am notifying the hall monitor about you and after school I am telling your Mommy that you said a bad word

I have a feeling you were one of those kids in school who would do just that.

So do you still have a picture of your alcoholic father hanging over your full bar?

You should have read the rules, asshole.

Let’s get back on subject. I was thinking about how we might be smarter than black people because for 400 plus years we didn’t even let them read. So we held their brain development back. People will say that’s racist but there is truth to it. I saw this
The human brain has evolved gradually over the passage of time; a series of incremental changes occurred as a result of external stimuli and conditions.

There have been studies that strongly support the idea that the level of intelligence associated with humans is not unique to our species. Scholars suggest that this could have, in part, been caused by convergent evolution. One common characteristic that is present in species of "high degree intelligence" (i.e. dolphins, great apes, and humans - Homo sapiens) is a brain of enlarged size.

A big head doesnt automatically mean you are smarter. Look how big the Neanderthals heads were and how stupid they were. All that space was taken up by circuitry specifically geared towards visual acuity instead of intelligence producing grey matter.

I’ve already agreed “bigger head” doesn’t automatically mean smarter. But a bigger brain doesn’t hurt either.

Heres the point I’m trying to make. All dogs have a similar ancestor. The wolves. Look at all the different breeds we have been able to make in such a short time. Everyone of them including the smartest one might not be as smart as the original wolf. Doesn’t matter. The fact is in a very short time we were able to create breeds of dogs some smarter than others. Very short time period.

So, I think we fucked over blacks by not allowing them to read or write for 500 years.

Doesnt matter if our brains got bigger in that time. I’m simply suggesting we could be border collies and blacks could be labs.

I get what you are saying but you forget Blacks have tens of thousands of years head start with the accumulation of knowledge. Even during the 300-400 year time period Blacks were still reading and being taught to read by some whites.

Using your wolf to dog analogy one has to agree there is no dog that is going to be more intelligent than the wolf. The wolf is the original, the primitive root for canines. Black people are the same for humans.

the first National Bee was in 1925

On July 8, Zaila Avant-garde became the first African American middle school student to win the Scripps National Spelling Bee

If blacks are smarter how come only one has won the spelling bee?