Are God deniers and climate change deniers equally flawed?

[Sherlock Holmes]

It struck me recently while interacting with devoted climate change deniers, that their reasoning has much in common with atheists - those who deny that God exists.

Both positions claim "there's no evidence" for God/climate and when asked what would they consider as evidence, they start to go around in circles.

How many Trump supporting "Christians" realize that they are climate atheists? I wonder, I wonder if they ever think for themselves.

 

[Meister]

The Badlands is a good place for this thread, not in a zone 1 forum.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The Badlands is a good place for this thread, not in a zone 1 forum.

I disagree, this is the religion area and I'm discussing beliefs.

 

[Meister]

I disagree, this is the religion area and I'm discussing beliefs.

I could care less that you disagree, slugger.
Try reading the rules before you post your drivel.

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[CrusaderFrank]

It struck me recently while interacting with devoted climate change deniers, that their reasoning has much in common with atheists - those who deny that God exists.

Both positions claim "there's no evidence" for God/climate and when asked what would they consider as evidence, they start to go around in circles.

How many Trump supporting "Christians" realize that they are climate atheists? I wonder, I wonder if they ever think for themselves.

Interesting

Plenty of evidence that we are living in a simulation, not so much evidence that America CO2 is melting the ice caps

 

[theHawk]

It struck me recently while interacting with devoted climate change deniers, that their reasoning has much in common with atheists - those who deny that God exists.

Both positions claim "there's no evidence" for God/climate and when asked what would they consider as evidence, they start to go around in circles.

How many Trump supporting "Christians" realize that they are climate atheists? I wonder, I wonder if they ever think for themselves.

There is only one true God. Not your false Climate Change one, which is really just the state and the sycophants running it.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I could care less that you disagree, slugger.
Try reading the rules before you post your drivel.

• "Zone 1": Clean Debate Zone (CDZ) / Introduce Yourself (Welcome Threads) / The Lounge / Announcements / Race Relations-Racism / Religion and Ethics: Civil discourse is the focus here, regardless of topic matter. No insults, name calling, or putting down other posters (flaming). Consider it a lesson in civics.

You could or couldn't care less?

My post is about the parallels in terms of beliefs, that I have noticed with denial of God and denial of climate change. This is about beliefs, how we choose what to believe and the arguments we put forward to defend them.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

There is only one true God. Not your false Climate Change one, which is really just the state and the sycophants running it.

Can you cite evidence for God?

 

[Meister]

You could or couldn't care less?

My post is about the parallels in terms of beliefs, that I have noticed with denial of God and denial of climate change. This is about beliefs, how we choose what to believe and the arguments we put forward to defend them.

YOUR thread is not set up for a civil discussion, it's set up for a food fight.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I asked people that if they believe there WAS evidence for climate change, what would that evidence look like? I don't think many deniers had thought about this question.

 

[Meister]

You wonder if who doesn't think for themselves, slugger?
You? I really think you're being spoon fed on what to think from your masters.

 

[theHawk]

Can you cite evidence for God?

Yes. Science cannot explain how life came into existence from atomic materials.

The Bible is also full of prophecies that came true.

 

[Meister]

I asked people that if they believe there WAS evidence for climate change, what would that evidence look like? I don't think many deniers had thought about this question.

Is this about climate change, or about religion?

I also think, most people agree there is climate change, just not man made climate change.

 

[theHawk]

I asked people that if they believe there WAS evidence for climate change, what would that evidence look like? I don't think many deniers had thought about this question.

You want us to provide evidence for your false god?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You want us to provide evidence for your false god?

I believe in God so why are you asking me that question? I simply asked you what evidence you see for holding the same belief.

 

[theHawk]

I asked people that if they believe there WAS evidence for climate change, what would that evidence look like? I don't think many deniers had thought about this question.

It’s on you climate believers to provide evidence.


Are us Christians asking non-believers to provide proof of God?


We look at the scientific theories the climate cult comes up with, then when they don’t pan out, they change their story. “Oops, it’s not global cooling, it’s Global warming now.” “Oops, it’s not global warming now, it’s climate change”. Yet they provide no quantifying way to gauge “climate change”. The science is junk.

“The oceans are rising”, yet there is zero proof oceans have risen at all in the last several hundreds of years.

Yet there is plenty of proof Jesus rose.

 

[theHawk]

I believe in God so why are you asking me that question? I simply asked you what evidence you see for holding the same belief.

I somehow doubt that, given your aversion to the truth.

I gave your answer in post #12.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

climate change is a political tool that is used to scare dumb people into accepting marxist totalitarianism

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

It’s on you climate believers to provide evidence.

It's up to you to decide whether what is provided is or is not evidence, so how did you do that? What was missing in the evidence that you'd need to see in order to accept that man's activity is altering the climate?

Are us Christians asking non-believers to provide proof of God?

You have evidence for God else you'd not believe in God, so you have a threshold of evidence for that belief, all beliefs require evidence.

We look at the scientific theories the climate cult comes up with, then when they don’t pan out, they change their story. “Oops, it’s not global cooling, it’s Global warming now.” “Oops, it’s not global warming now, it’s climate change”. Yet they provide no quantifying way to gauge “climate change”. The science is junk.

“The oceans are rising”, yet there is zero proof oceans have risen at all in the last several hundreds of years.

So if there was evidence that sea levels are rising, you'd admit climate change is real?

Yet there is plenty of proof Jesus rose.

That depends on the standard we set for regarding something as evidence, we choose that standard, we all do.

 

[theHawk]

So if there was evidence that sea levels are rising, you'd admit climate change is real?

No, because you still have to prove that levels rising are a result of man made interference, and the climate hoaxers have no way of quantifying that.