Are God deniers and climate change deniers equally flawed?

[Captain Caveman]

Ask an atheist they will all ask for evidence for God and nothing you show them will convince them, that's EXACTLY the same attitude I see in climate change deniers.

Link please. I've reported the thread because you've failed to provide a link, you know, evidence for your shit.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

LOL. Try reading the Old Testament.

The "Old Testament" is ancient literature and contains nothing but written claims, why should I trust that literature? There's no archeological evidence for example that the Israelites were in Egypt, there's no archeological evidence that the entire earth was under water six thousand years ago, why do you choose to believe such claims?

 

[Captain Caveman]

Sherlock Holmes

Co2 and earth's temperature over hundreds of millions of years have NEVER correlated, so why do Alarmists
believe they do?

There's science graphs to prove this.

 

[Meister]

No, because you still have to prove that levels rising are a result of man made interference, and the climate hoaxers have no way of quantifying that.

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[Sherlock Holmes]

^^ a computer program…written by a climate hoaxer.

The software is a means of solving many intricate differential equations, these are well known equations called the Navier Stokes equations. They are derived from the laws of thermodynamics which we use to design and build rockets, jet engines and so on.

 

[Meister]

The "Old Testament" is ancient literature and contains nothing but written claims, why should I trust that literature? There's no archeological evidence for example that the Israelites were in Egypt, there's no archeological evidence that the entire earth was under water six thousand years ago, why do you choose to believe such claims?

And you said you believe in God?????

Sure you do, sure you do.

 

[whitehall]

I guess it's confirmed that lefties consider "man made climate change" to be a religion rather than a quasi-scientific theory. Doesn't that make Al Gore the Pope of climate change?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Link please. I've reported the thread because you've failed to provide a link, you know, evidence for your shit.

You don't know what atheists believe? really? OK.

Google Search

That's the SAME reasoning climate change deniers give.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Sherlock Holmes

Co2 and earth's temperature over hundreds of millions of years have NEVER correlated, so why do Alarmists claim believe they do?

There's science graphs to prove this.

Sorry, let's be honest with one another - there's more material evidence for man made climate change than there is for a man dying and coming back to life two thousand years ago.

My point is that if you believe in God then you must believe also what the climate change scientists say else you're just a hypocrite - demanding evidence for X yet willing to believe Y with far far less evidence for Y.

 

[Captain Caveman]

The software is a means of solving many intricate differential equations, these are well known equations called the Navier Stokes equations. They are derived from the laws of thermodynamics which we use to design and build rockets, jet engines and so on.

A computer model is not science.

 

[ding]

their reasoning has much in common with atheists

MIne isn't. Not even close. My reasoning is based upon the empirical climate evidence of the geologic record. It's the proponents of AGW that have much in common with atheists as neither have any evidence for their beliefs.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Sorry, let's be honest with one another - there's more material evidence for man made climate change than there is for a man dying and coming back to life two thousand years ago.

My point is that if you believe in God then you must believe also what the climate change scientists say else you're just a hypocrite - demanding evidence for X yet willing to believe Y with far far less evidence for Y.

I'll ask again -

Co2 and earth's temperature over hundreds of millions of years have NEVER correlated, so why do Alarmists believe they do?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

A computer model is not science.

Is a theory science?

 

[Captain Caveman]

Is a theory science?

A computer model isn't.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I'll ask again -

Co2 and earth's temperature over hundreds of millions of years have NEVER correlated, so why do Alarmists believe they do?

Your turn - please a provide a link to support your claim "Co2 and earth's temperature over hundreds of millions of years have NEVER correlated, so why do Alarmists believe they do?".

Please link to a science journal or site that show anyone making that claim.

 

[ding]

there's more material evidence for man made climate change than there is for a man dying and coming back to life two thousand years ago.

Let's test that. There's no evidence that the atmosphere causes climate changes. There's tons of evidence that the ocean drives the climate of the planet.

As for Jesus... The first Christians who witnessed the supernatural acts performed by Jesus - which included controlling matter, controlling nature, healing physical deformities, healing diseases, raising the dead and resurrecting himself from death - worshiped Jesus as God because they witnessed those miracles. Non-Christian historians recorded that the first Christians worshiped Jesus as God because he performed supernatural feats. 24,000 written manuscripts documented the supernatural feats Jesus performed and the first Christians witnessed. The Babylonian Talmud confirms Jewish religious leaders put Jesus to death for sorcery and for leading Israel into apostasy. There are no opposing accounts that document that Jesus did not perform any supernatural acts. There are no opposing accounts that argue Jesus wasn't put to death for performing sorcery and inciting Israel to apostasy. There are no opposing accounts which document Jesus wasn't resurrected. There are no opposing accounts that the first Christians didn't witness Jesus performing supernatural acts. There are no opposing accounts that document the first Christians didn't worship Jesus as God.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

A computer model isn't.

A model is a theory - they serve the same purpose to enable us to predict the future state of a physical system.

So any model based on a theory is just as much "science" as is the theory itself.

Look at cosmology, all the predictions and going back in time to the Big Bang is done with computer models, why don't you reject those?

 

[ding]

Is a theory science?

Science is the study of nature to discover the order within nature so as to be able to make predictions of nature.

So theories are a part of science but without confirmation of predictions, theories remain unsubstantiated.

 

[ding]

A model is a theory

And theirs are massively flawed. I'd be happy to enumerate.

 

[westwall]

You could or couldn't care less?

My post is about the parallels in terms of beliefs, that I have noticed with denial of God and denial of climate change. This is about beliefs, how we choose what to believe and the arguments we put forward to defend them.

What are climate change denialits denying?

Be specific