Are all of Biden’s pardons that were autopenned signed INVALID?

[Rambunctious]

The question is why would a guy like Biden not want to actually sign his own EOs? Where was he? Did he have a hand cramp? Could he just not be bothered? Too long a walk back from the beach? Or were they being printed and signed entirely without Joe not even knowing about them?

Well I can't prove it but I believe Obama was running things and making all the decisions...

 

[buckeye]

He can't be charged federally because he was pardoned.

No kidding. And that is what makes these blanket pardons a slap in the face to every American ever charged with a crime. They clearly should be illegal and my hope is the courts will find this to be true.

 

[buckeye]

The pardon power is considered "plenary" and thus generally cannot be restricted or modified by Congress or the judiciary.

Blanket pardons have never been tested in court. i disagree that these are legal just because Biden did them.

 

[Luckyone]

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/03/chrome-capture-2025-3-17.jpeg?quality=75&strip=all

How hilarious would this be?

Trump says Biden’s autopen pardons are ‘void, vacant and of no further force or effect,’ vows probe of Jan. 6 House select committee

President Trump claims pardons made by Biden in the last minutes of his presidency have been “VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT” since the former commander-in-chief used “Autopen.”…

nypost.com

If none of the pardons of valid, some of these bad actors are in deep doody.

Adam Schiff? Hunter? Fauci?

Why Trump Can’t ‘Void’ Biden’s Pardons Because of Autopen​

But according to the U.S. Constitution, the President has no such authority to overturn his predecessor’s pardons, especially not based on the type of signature, legal experts say. “The Constitution doesn't even require that the pardon be written, so the idea that the signature is by autopen rather than by handwritten signature seems not relevant to the constitutionality because Article II just says that the President has the power to pardon,” says Bernadette Meyler, a Stanford Law School professor and constitutional law expert.

 

[Blisterfinger]

And now you show us you don’t know what entrapment means.

After you've shown us how vile and corrupt you are. Sure

 

[otto105]

What offenses did Adam Schiff, Liz Cheney and James Biden commit?

Crossing daddy Shitler!

 

[buckeye]

After you've shown us how vile and corrupt you are.

Marener is a bold faced liar, too. Quite the asshole.

Leftists just can't be honest, they'd have to ditch their cult.

 

[jwoodie]

The U.S. Constitution provides that Pardons are a special prerogative of the President, meaning that he alone must make a personal decision as to whether an offense against the United States should be pardoned in the interests of justice or the nation. As such, he may not delegate this power and must personally endorse each pardon. It appears that neither of these conditions were met for many of the alleged pardons announced at the end of Biden's presidency. As a result, there is a serious question of their Constitutional validity, which may need to be determined by the Supreme Court

 

[otto105]

Simpy

Here is your link that you will deny.

Trump lied about Biden’s pardons … and here’s the law that proves it — NJ.com

 

[toobfreak]

Well I can't prove it but I believe Obama was running things and making all the decisions...

Democrats seem very experienced and knowledgeable at how to lie, cheat and commit crimes without leaving obvious proof.

 

[0311]

The U.S. Constitution provides that Pardons are a special prerogative of the President, meaning that he alone must make a personal decision as to whether an offense against the United States should be pardoned in the interests of justice or the nation. As such, he may not delegate this power and must personally endorse each pardon. It appears that neither of these conditions were met for many of the alleged pardons announced at the end of Biden's presidency. As a result, there is a serious question of their Constitutional validity, which may need to be determined by the Supreme Court

No more Unconstitutional than Felon47's pardon Jan.6 terrorists.

 

[Rambunctious]

What have you got to say now Adam pin head Schiff?....

 

[Rambunctious]

Oh Liz!!!!! here comes the law....

 

[konradv]

Nobody believes you, but that is ok. We know you and your friends are losers, and now, everyone else is going to see it too-)

It hardly matters to me what you and your friends think. I’m obviously on a lot of ‘Ignore’ lists, but that saves me from having to read a lot of mindless responses and I can devote my time to the posts I care about. I don’t have a lot of time to waste on MAGA sheep.

 

[toobfreak]

The U.S. Constitution provides that Pardons are a special prerogative of the President, meaning that he alone must make a personal decision as to whether an offense against the United States should be pardoned in the interests of justice or the nation. As such, he may not delegate this power and must personally endorse each pardon. It appears that neither of these conditions were met for many of the alleged pardons announced at the end of Biden's presidency. As a result, there is a serious question of their Constitutional validity, which may need to be determined by the Supreme Court

/SERIOUS/ concerns. What kind of president cannot even be bothered to sign his own pardons of his own family and friends? Was Joe out that day on an extended lunch?

I'm not buying the bull that there is nothing within the law to undo a pardon nor void it. It does not have to be the next president, it need not be spelled out. The law must also operate on common sense and not be expected to spell out every single iteration.

It was the intention of the framers that a president can pardon who he chooses, but it must be HIM who is doing the pardoning, not just signing the president's name to the thing.

Every one of Biden's signings must be questioned to cause and originality. If Biden never signed nor approved the signings thereof, that voids the deal--- just common sense.

Time we quit tripping over our own laws and make them work for the purpose they were intended. Congress also needs to look into eliminating the autopen signing by a president except for clear and well-documented reasons.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No kidding. And that is what makes these blanket pardons a slap in the face to every American ever charged with a crime. They clearly should be illegal and my hope is the courts will find this to be true.

You didn't read my next post obviously.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Blanket pardons have never been tested in court. i disagree that these are legal just because Biden did them.

You need to reread my post. I said:

The pardon power is considered "plenary" and thus generally cannot be restricted or modified by Congress or the judiciary.

That makes them unable to be challenged. I don't care who did the pardon. The Constitution makes them unchallengeable or there would be a method prescribed.

 

[mudwhistle]

No more Unconstitutional than Felon47's pardon Jan.6 terrorists.

You think that anything Trump does is illegal.

If he cured cancer you'd say it was an impeachable offense, saying it caused the loss of thousands of jobs in the field of cancer research.

STFU.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

Of course they are UNConstitutional, thats how the DemonicRats roll.

You cannot pardon without reason.
No reasons were given for any of these pardons.

Pardons must be individually given by the President, and personally signed.
From what I'm reading online, this did not happen.

Pardons are for people who did something wrong, in order to do something right.
Or for those who were illegally, unethically, or wrongfully placed in prison.

So, if Trump wants to send his legal brigade after the entire Biden family, theres nothing they can do about it.

 

[buckeye]

That makes them unable to be challenged.

I don't agree. When a pardon becomes a grant of immunity they are no longer pardons.

This needs adjudication and I am pretty certain it will get it.