Are all of Biden’s pardons that were autopenned signed INVALID?

[Blisterfinger]

Michael Flynn took a pardon. Are you guys finally agreeing that he lied to the FBI and committed a crime?

Maybe we'll use the same kind of flimsy entrapment that you did against Michael Flynn. Is that what you want?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Michael Flynn took a pardon. Are you guys finally agreeing that he lied to the FBI and committed a crime?

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[Marener]

Maybe we'll use the same kind of flimsy entrapment that you did against Michael Flynn. Is that what you want?

And now you show us you don’t know what entrapment means.

 

[Raynine]

It is not surprising that a national leader that falls up stairways, shakes hands with invisible people, wanders off into a jungle, and cannot tell his wife from his sister, was revered by democrats as the only politician ever to get 80 million votes in 2020. One wonders what those voters think of Biden’s autopen that pardoned miscreants in his orbit. Obviously, Biden was unaware of anything that autopen signed, so who the hell was running the country for all that time? Not a problem? Well, if you look at the lowest approval ratings for a political party in generations, maybe it is a problem. Independents may end up replacing that party and that is a huge development.

Was Biden the first AI president? Automated Idiot? These people thought they could just throw a deranged curmudgeon out there and no one would notice because media hatred of Trump was in full swing. The only reason it appeared to work in 2020 was because corrupt mail-in votes were used during a pandemic.

Now, all those pardons may be nullified because an autopen is not a person or a leader. The automated leader had no idea what was being signed or who approved it. This has legal ramifications. It is possible that none of those pardons will stand, and it is also possible that many of the things signed by that autopen will be declared null and void. No wonder the opinion of democrats is so low.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why not? You don't need a crime, you don't even need a crime to have been committed. You are just saying "eh...whatever crimes against the country you may have committed are pardoned"

if a crime need not be committed, then why forbid pardons on future crimes?

You never know what crimes may come up. What would have happened if Trump pardoned himself in January 2021. Hardly any of the federal cases against him would have been dead in the water. Of course, he was also prosecuted by the state of NY.

 

[Moonglow]

Where is the satire?

 

[Marener]

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I say Flynn is guilty because the facts and his plea say he was guilty.

I don’t think his accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt.

 

[skye]

Absolutely invalid.

 

[Clipper]

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/03/chrome-capture-2025-3-17.jpeg?quality=75&strip=all

How hilarious would this be?

Trump says Biden’s autopen pardons are ‘void, vacant and of no further force or effect,’ vows probe of Jan. 6 House select committee

President Trump claims pardons made by Biden in the last minutes of his presidency have been “VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT” since the former commander-in-chief used “Autopen.”…

nypost.com

If none of the pardons of valid, some of these bad actors are in deep doody.

Adam Schiff? Hunter? Fauci?

Think Krasnov signed every single one of those pardons he gave out to his 1400 J6 goon squad?

 

[Raynine]

Where is the satire?

Read the first sentence.

 

[Clipper]

He’s either trolling or becoming an authoritarian.
Either way, you guys are a disgrace.

His trolling is a prelude to becoming an authoritarian. He's just about there.

Dumb fuck MAGA cheers him on. Until it's their turn to be on the receiving end from that sociopath.

 

[WEATHER53]

No. The definition of pardon is for past crimes. SCOTUS said as much in ex parte Garland.

It means you did something wrong. It’s not in waiting for you might have

 

[excalibur]

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/03/chrome-capture-2025-3-17.jpeg?quality=75&strip=all

How hilarious would this be?

Trump says Biden’s autopen pardons are ‘void, vacant and of no further force or effect,’ vows probe of Jan. 6 House select committee

President Trump claims pardons made by Biden in the last minutes of his presidency have been “VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT” since the former commander-in-chief used “Autopen.”…

nypost.com

If none of the pardons of valid, some of these bad actors are in deep doody.

Adam Schiff? Hunter? Fauci?

The signature on Hunters's pardon is different, looks hand done.

 

[Marener]

It means you did something wrong. It’s not in waiting for you might have

Nope. Pardons do not necessarily mean you did anything wrong.

 

[SeaMajor7]

You never know what crimes may come up. What would have happened if Trump pardoned himself in January 2021. Hardly any of the federal cases against him would have been dead in the water. Of course, he was also prosecuted by the state of NY.

I couldn't find "what other crimes may come up" in the Constitution, skipper.
Gain your horizon, sailor.

 

[buckeye]

Not federally because the crime was not against the United States.

How do you know that? I didn't define the murder and I already told you there are many exceptions to murder being charged only by the state where it was committed.

Here it is again, from Wiki:

If, however, the victim is a federal official, an ambassador, consul, or other foreign official under the protection of the United States, or if the crime took place on federal property or involved crossing state borders, or in a manner that substantially affects interstate commerce or national security, then the federal government also has jurisdiction. If a crime is not committed within any state, then federal jurisdiction is exclusive, for example vessels of the U.S. Navy or the U.S. Merchant Marine in international waters and U.S. military bases worldwide. Recently, the Supreme Court, in the McGirt decision, reaffirmed that major crimes within the reservation boundaries of Native American tribes, for which a tribal member is suspected, must be investigated and prosecuted by the federal, not state, government. Federal penalties will apply if found guilty.

So, if Hunter was implicated in a murder that met the guidelines for a federal charge, would you want him charged?

 

[Rambunctious]

Legal experts are saying Executive orders and pardons must be signed by the president... autopens can not be used....

 

[toobfreak]

Legal experts are saying Executive orders and pardons must be signed by the president... autopens can not be used....

The question is why would a guy like Biden not want to actually sign his own EOs? Where was he? Did he have a hand cramp? Could he just not be bothered? Too long a walk back from the beach? Or were they being printed and signed entirely without Joe not even knowing about them?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I couldn't find "what other crimes may come up" in the Constitution, skipper.
Gain your horizon, sailor.

You can't even read! Try looking up the definition of a pardon. Have a young child read it for you.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How do you know that? I didn't define the murder and I already told you there are many exceptions to murder being charged only by the state where it was committed.

Here it is again, from Wiki:

If, however, the victim is a federal official, an ambassador, consul, or other foreign official under the protection of the United States, or if the crime took place on federal property or involved crossing state borders, or in a manner that substantially affects interstate commerce or national security, then the federal government also has jurisdiction. If a crime is not committed within any state, then federal jurisdiction is exclusive, for example vessels of the U.S. Navy or the U.S. Merchant Marine in international waters and U.S. military bases worldwide. Recently, the Supreme Court, in the McGirt decision, reaffirmed that major crimes within the reservation boundaries of Native American tribes, for which a tribal member is suspected, must be investigated and prosecuted by the federal, not state, government. Federal penalties will apply if found guilty.

So, if Hunter was implicated in a murder that met the guidelines for a federal charge, would you want him charged?

He can't be charged federally because he was pardoned. It sucks but it is what it is, but the federal pardon does not prevent a state from prosecuting him under state laws.

The pardon power is considered "plenary" and thus generally cannot be restricted or modified by Congress or the judiciary.

Federal pardons in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org