Arctic Temperatures Today

[CrusaderFrank]

Frank, they keep saying the ice is melting, I haven't seen them explain how ice melts at -20C. Maybe I missed it, have you seen that experiment?

Denier! The Science is settled!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Frank, they keep saying the ice is melting, I haven't seen them explain how ice melts at -20C. Maybe I missed it, have you seen that experiment?

Asking the AGW Cultists for an experiment is like asking Dracula to watch a sunrise

 

[jc456]

Asking the AGW Cultists for an experiment is like asking Dracula to watch a sunrise

^^^^^^^^^^HAHAAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA^^^^^^^^^

 

[Rye Catcher]

explain something to me, is a severe hurricane weather or climate change?

Size and number of named hurricanes as well as the number and sizes of tornados in late December is unique.

The temperature of the oceans and seas are the problem. Not the air temperature.

 

[jc456]

Size and number of named hurricanes as well as the number and sizes of tornados in late December is unique.

based on what?

 

[Rye Catcher]

based on what?

The warming of the Oceans and the Seas:

Ocean Warming - Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution

Increasing ocean heat is closely linked to increases in atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations, making the ocean an excellent indicator of how much Earth is warming.

www.whoi.edu

Climate Change: Ocean Heat Content

More than 90 percent of the warming that has happened on Earth over the past 50 years has occurred in the ocean. Not all of that heating is detectable yet at the surface

www.climate.gov

Ocean Heat Content | NASA Global Climate Change

Vital Signs of the Planet: Global Climate Change and Global Warming. Current news and data streams about global warming and climate change from NASA.

climate.nasa.gov

What is Calving? How a Giant Iceberg Broke Off Antarctic Ice Shelf

Meet the world's newest — and largest — iceberg.

www.inverse.com

Acknowledge your ignorance and educated yourself; don't listen to the few kooks who are opposed to the reality.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Size and number of named hurricanes as well as the number and sizes of tornados in late December is unique.

Since what year?

 

[mamooth]

look at the deflection experts avoiding the actual conversation!!!!

Do you understand how bad it makes you look when you deniers refuse to state your point?

Everyone else does. You come across as a cowardly trolls. Honest people will state a point directly. You all refuse to state a point directly. You just troll, troll again and troll more.

I'll give you another try, because seeing you cry and run never gets old. Wipe your tears away, have the orderly change your diaper, and give us an answer.

What was the point of Frank's "Derp, derp, what's the average temperature of the arctic?" question?

This is where you run again. Please proceed.

 

[mamooth]

So if you don't have an average, how can you pretend to show a warming anomaly?

The "reanalyzer" shows the Arctic is "warming" by .5C or whatever, but what does that even mean (besides some Bernie Madoff accounting)? .5C above what fictional bNoaseline? Is it -20C so it's "warmed" to -19.5?

Sweet Jeebus, Frank doesn't even know what a baseline is, but he still thinks adults should pay attention to him.

 

[ding]

Sweet Jeebus, Frank doesn't even know what a baseline is, but he still thinks adults should pay attention to him.

Why do you think they selected the coldest possible pre-industrial time period instead of the warmest possible pre-industrial time period as their baseline?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Sweet Jeebus, Frank doesn't even know what a baseline is, but he still thinks adults should pay attention to him.

Freddo, we know you’re smart and you want respect. If the Arctic temperatures range from a high of 60F to -20F are you telling us a .5 “anomaly” over a meaningless “baseline” should be a concern?

 

[ding]

Freddo, we know you’re smart and you want respect. If the Arctic temperatures range from a high of 60F to -20F are you telling us a .5 “anomaly” over a meaningless “baseline” should be a concern?

Exactly. Especially since those kind of fluctuations (warming and cooling) routinely occurred in the northern hemisphere (ice core data). And those fluctuations could not have been caused by CO2 or orbital forcing. Which means they are natural fluctuations. They are falsely correlating the recent warming trend to CO2. They are completely ignoring the geologic record which shows natural variation is the norm.

 

[ding]

Freddo, we know you’re smart and you want respect. If the Arctic temperatures range from a high of 60F to -20F are you telling us a .5 “anomaly” over a meaningless “baseline” should be a concern?

If they used the warmest temperature of previous interglacial cycles it would show the planet is -2C from that baseline. And that would actually be a meaningful baseline as that is the temperature the earth - with it's present tectonic, circulation and topographical configurations - has been shown to NATURALLY warm to.

 

[mamooth]

Freddo, we know you’re smart and you want respect. If the Arctic temperatures range from a high of 60F to -20F are you telling us a .5 “anomaly” over a meaningless “baseline” should be a concern?

Only if you think a large sea level rise isn't a problem.

That is, if you're an imbecile, you won't see a problem.

 

[mamooth]

Exactly. Especially since those kind of fluctuations (warming and cooling) routinely occurred in the northern hemisphere (ice core data). And those fluctuations could not have been caused by CO2 or orbital forcing. Which means they are natural fluctuations. They are falsely correlating the recent warming trend to CO2. They are completely ignoring the geologic record which shows natural variation is the norm.

No, totally wrong.

The earth should be slowly cooling now. It's warming very quickly instead. That's how we know it's not natural, among other reasons.

What about that confoozes you so?

 

[mamooth]

Why do you think they selected the coldest possible pre-industrial time period instead of the warmest possible pre-industrial time period as their baseline?

They didn't.

Where do you come up with this stuff?

 

[jc456]

Do you understand how bad it makes you look when you deniers refuse to state your point?

Everyone else does. You come across as a cowardly trolls. Honest people will state a point directly. You all refuse to state a point directly. You just troll, troll again and troll more.

I'll give you another try, because seeing you cry and run never gets old. Wipe your tears away, have the orderly change your diaper, and give us an answer.

What was the point of Frank's "Derp, derp, what's the average temperature of the arctic?" question?

This is where you run again. Please proceed.

It’s called a benchmark number to reference change against. Without it, you’ve got bumkis

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Only if you think a large sea level rise isn't a problem.

That is, if you're an imbecile, you won't see a problem.

You crack me up! The oceans are rising, really?

That must be why banks keep lending on oceanfront property

 

[jc456]

Only if you think a large sea level rise isn't a problem.

That is, if you're an imbecile, you won't see a problem.

Where is sea level risen?

 

[skookerasbil]

Hey Frank....check this out dude...

Video from the Climate Conference.

I found it on Twitter 2.0 group, "Clown World Today"

I'm still laughing....LoL...I think that's Crick and Rocks up there on the left btw...