Arab-Israeli conflict Q&A

[toastman]

Israel will not negotiate borders "mutual or otherwise" you cretin. Israel intends to maintain control over all borders and will not leave the West Bank and will continue to be an Apartheid state until the non-Jews under Israeli control are given citizenship and the vote. Just like South Africa.

I noticed you ran away from my question about apartheid in Israel. So, where is there apartheid in Israel and how is it related to SA?

 

[toastman]

Israel will not negotiate borders "mutual or otherwise" you cretin. Israel intends to maintain control over all borders and will not leave the West Bank and will continue to be an Apartheid state until the non-Jews under Israeli control are given citizenship and the vote. Just like South Africa.

There's nothing to negotiate. Israel needs to get the **** off land that isn't theirs and start respecting international law.

Or else what ?

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The Dispute Resolution Process can be initiated under the authority of the:

The Liaison Committee established pursuant to Article X of the DOP shall ensure the smooth implementation of this Agreement. It shall deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.

Article X​

JOINT ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN LIAISON COMMITTEE
In order to provide for a smooth implementation of this Declaration of Principles and any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, upon the entry into force of this Declaration of Principles, a Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee will be established in order to deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.​

Theoretically if the JIPLC is deadlocked, they can move to an A/RES/25/2625 process (negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement). This still doesn't change the parties to the dispute.

I wasn't asking about procedures. I was asking about authority.

(COMMENT)

The key is that both parties to the Agreement (The DOP between Israel and the PLO) must agree, just as they must agree to any alternative process. Each party to the dispute must want to engage in a comprehensive peace accord process and agree to it being binding; whatever the outcome.

What type of "authority are you looking for?

Most Respectfully,
R

We have all heard a gazillion times from Israel's propagandists that there never was a Palestine, that there never were any Palestinians, that they had no land or borders or rights.

Now that the Palestinians are expected to accept partition, change their borders and cede land they magically get the authority to do so.

Seriously folks, you can't make this shit up.

Israel makes Alice in Wonderland look like the bastion of sanity.

Why is it propaganda to tell the truth about 'Palestine' ?

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The Dispute Resolution Process can be initiated under the authority of the:

The Liaison Committee established pursuant to Article X of the DOP shall ensure the smooth implementation of this Agreement. It shall deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.

Article X​

JOINT ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN LIAISON COMMITTEE
In order to provide for a smooth implementation of this Declaration of Principles and any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, upon the entry into force of this Declaration of Principles, a Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee will be established in order to deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.​

Theoretically if the JIPLC is deadlocked, they can move to an A/RES/25/2625 process (negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement). This still doesn't change the parties to the dispute.

I wasn't asking about procedures. I was asking about authority.

(COMMENT)

The key is that both parties to the Agreement (The DOP between Israel and the PLO) must agree, just as they must agree to any alternative process. Each party to the dispute must want to engage in a comprehensive peace accord process and agree to it being binding; whatever the outcome.

What type of "authority are you looking for?

Most Respectfully,
R

We have all heard a gazillion times from Israel's propagandists that there never was a Palestine, that there never were any Palestinians, that they had no land or borders or rights.

Now that the Palestinians are expected to accept partition, change their borders and cede land they magically get the authority to do so.

Seriously folks, you can't make this shit up.

Israel makes Alice in Wonderland look like the bastion of sanity.

You have things mixed up Tinmore. Israel is a sovereign state with internationally recognized boundaries. Palestine is the fantasy in this case. A made up country with a made up people.

Isn't it funny that several months after Israel declared independence, here come the so called Palestinians trying to do the same thing.

 

[Coyote]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The Dispute Resolution Process can be initiated under the authority of the:

The Liaison Committee established pursuant to Article X of the DOP shall ensure the smooth implementation of this Agreement. It shall deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.

Article X​

JOINT ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN LIAISON COMMITTEE
In order to provide for a smooth implementation of this Declaration of Principles and any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, upon the entry into force of this Declaration of Principles, a Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee will be established in order to deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.​

Theoretically if the JIPLC is deadlocked, they can move to an A/RES/25/2625 process (negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement). This still doesn't change the parties to the dispute.

I wasn't asking about procedures. I was asking about authority.

(COMMENT)

The key is that both parties to the Agreement (The DOP between Israel and the PLO) must agree, just as they must agree to any alternative process. Each party to the dispute must want to engage in a comprehensive peace accord process and agree to it being binding; whatever the outcome.

What type of "authority are you looking for?

Most Respectfully,
R

We have all heard a gazillion times from Israel's propagandists that there never was a Palestine, that there never were any Palestinians, that they had no land or borders or rights.

Now that the Palestinians are expected to accept partition, change their borders and cede land they magically get the authority to do so.

Seriously folks, you can't make this shit up.

Israel makes Alice in Wonderland look like the bastion of sanity.

You have things mixed up Tinmore. Israel is a sovereign state with internationally recognized boundaries. Palestine is the fantasy in this case. A made up country with a made up people.

Isn't it funny that several months after Israel declared independence, here come the so called Palestinians trying to do the same thing.

The people are not "made up".

 

[Grendelyn]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The Dispute Resolution Process can be initiated under the authority of the:

The Liaison Committee established pursuant to Article X of the DOP shall ensure the smooth implementation of this Agreement. It shall deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.

Article X​

JOINT ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN LIAISON COMMITTEE
In order to provide for a smooth implementation of this Declaration of Principles and any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, upon the entry into force of this Declaration of Principles, a Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee will be established in order to deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.​

Theoretically if the JIPLC is deadlocked, they can move to an A/RES/25/2625 process (negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement). This still doesn't change the parties to the dispute.

I wasn't asking about procedures. I was asking about authority.

(COMMENT)

The key is that both parties to the Agreement (The DOP between Israel and the PLO) must agree, just as they must agree to any alternative process. Each party to the dispute must want to engage in a comprehensive peace accord process and agree to it being binding; whatever the outcome.

What type of "authority are you looking for?

Most Respectfully,
R

We have all heard a gazillion times from Israel's propagandists that there never was a Palestine, that there never were any Palestinians, that they had no land or borders or rights.

Now that the Palestinians are expected to accept partition, change their borders and cede land they magically get the authority to do so.

Seriously folks, you can't make this shit up.

Israel makes Alice in Wonderland look like the bastion of sanity.

You have things mixed up Tinmore. Israel is a sovereign state with internationally recognized boundaries. Palestine is the fantasy in this case. A made up country with a made up people.

Isn't it funny that several months after Israel declared independence, here come the so called Palestinians trying to do the same thing.

Is this how you live with yourselves by believing those whom you bomb and kill are a made up people that do not exist? Seriously, I truly pity you for you have no soul. ~ Susan

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

You have the tendency to imply that by virtue of a "right" --- you get something tangible. "Rights" do not confer anything special.

What rights did they have after 1988 that they did not have before?

(COMMENT)

There is no difference. They had the same "rights" before "independence" as after "independence."

The 1988 "independence" is a marked event in time --- that is --- it marks when a particular "right" was exercised.

• Aware of the proclamation of the State of Palestine by the Palestine National Council in line with General Assembly resolution 181 (II) and in exercise of the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people,
• Affirms the need to enable the Palestinian people to exercise their sovereignty over their territory occupied since 1967.

The Palestinians "exercised" a particular right; as they had done before in becoming Jordanians.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The Dispute Resolution Process can be initiated under the authority of the:

The Liaison Committee established pursuant to Article X of the DOP shall ensure the smooth implementation of this Agreement. It shall deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.

Article X​

JOINT ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN LIAISON COMMITTEE
In order to provide for a smooth implementation of this Declaration of Principles and any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, upon the entry into force of this Declaration of Principles, a Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee will be established in order to deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.​

Theoretically if the JIPLC is deadlocked, they can move to an A/RES/25/2625 process (negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement). This still doesn't change the parties to the dispute.

I wasn't asking about procedures. I was asking about authority.

(COMMENT)

The key is that both parties to the Agreement (The DOP between Israel and the PLO) must agree, just as they must agree to any alternative process. Each party to the dispute must want to engage in a comprehensive peace accord process and agree to it being binding; whatever the outcome.

What type of "authority are you looking for?

Most Respectfully,
R

We have all heard a gazillion times from Israel's propagandists that there never was a Palestine, that there never were any Palestinians, that they had no land or borders or rights.

Now that the Palestinians are expected to accept partition, change their borders and cede land they magically get the authority to do so.

Seriously folks, you can't make this shit up.

Israel makes Alice in Wonderland look like the bastion of sanity.

You have things mixed up Tinmore. Israel is a sovereign state with internationally recognized boundaries. Palestine is the fantasy in this case. A made up country with a made up people.

Isn't it funny that several months after Israel declared independence, here come the so called Palestinians trying to do the same thing.

Is this how you live with yourselves by believing those whom you bomb and kill are a made up people that do not exist? Seriously, I truly pity you for you have no soul. ~ Susan

Considering the pity is coming from a truly demented individual like yourself, it means nothing to me

 

[Billo_Really]

Or else what ?

Eventually, that decision will be taken out of their hands.

 

[Phoenall]

Israel will not negotiate borders "mutual or otherwise" you cretin. Israel intends to maintain control over all borders and will not leave the West Bank and will continue to be an Apartheid state until the non-Jews under Israeli control are given citizenship and the vote. Just like South Africa.

Is that why it already has two peace treaties detailing mutual borders and one agreement to respect mutual borders. What has Palestine got apart from a bad case of poverty and incipient deaths. The only way the Palestinians will get Israeli citizenship is if they drop a nuke on Israel and then walk in across 7 million bodies.

 

[Phoenall]

STOP LYING

The Palestinians have now to abide by the UN charter and negotiate a peaceful solution along with mutual borders. The many resolutions all call for these to be enacted before Palestine will be admitted to the UN fully. As you say until such a time as this is done they will never have any land inside borders agreed in treaty. In essence they will be a people without land

Name one, you fuckin' liar!

Res 242 for starters that details the Palestine problem and clearly says that the Palestinians have to stop all acts of belligerence and talk peace and mutual borders. Try reading the authors notes on the finished article and you will see this spelt out.

 

[Phoenall]

Israel will not negotiate borders "mutual or otherwise" you cretin. Israel intends to maintain control over all borders and will not leave the West Bank and will continue to be an Apartheid state until the non-Jews under Israeli control are given citizenship and the vote. Just like South Africa.

There's nothing to negotiate. Israel needs to get the **** off land that isn't theirs and start respecting international law.

Try again as CUSTOMARY INTERNATIONAL LAW is on Israel's side and clearly states they can occupy enemy territory for the defence of its citizens and does not have to give up the occupation until a peace deal is signed. Unless you have been given a team Palestine copy of the Geneva conventions

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Make sure you understand the time reference in comments about the origin of the "Palestinian" and the derivative of the terms. There is a difference between the "terms" when talking about pre-Palestine Order in Council, post-Palestine Mandate, and the contemporary Palestine alla 1988.

It is also important to note that no legitimate authority denies that there might be a basis for claims and restitution on grievances that have yet been litigated by the dispute resolution process. And that the Israelis have a similar standing on their disputes.

P F Tinmore, et al,

The Dispute Resolution Process can be initiated under the authority of the:

The Liaison Committee established pursuant to Article X of the DOP shall ensure the smooth implementation of this Agreement. It shall deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.

Article X​

JOINT ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN LIAISON COMMITTEE
In order to provide for a smooth implementation of this Declaration of Principles and any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, upon the entry into force of this Declaration of Principles, a Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee will be established in order to deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.​

Theoretically if the JIPLC is deadlocked, they can move to an A/RES/25/2625 process (negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement). This still doesn't change the parties to the dispute.

I wasn't asking about procedures. I was asking about authority.

(COMMENT)

The key is that both parties to the Agreement (The DOP between Israel and the PLO) must agree, just as they must agree to any alternative process. Each party to the dispute must want to engage in a comprehensive peace accord process and agree to it being binding; whatever the outcome.

What type of "authority are you looking for?

Most Respectfully,
R

We have all heard a gazillion times from Israel's propagandists that there never was a Palestine, that there never were any Palestinians, that they had no land or borders or rights.

Now that the Palestinians are expected to accept partition, change their borders and cede land they magically get the authority to do so.

Seriously folks, you can't make this shit up.

Israel makes Alice in Wonderland look like the bastion of sanity.

(COMMENT)

In the Post #185, which centers on an agreement after the Declaration of Independence for the State of Palestine (DoI---SoP) (sovereignty over their territory occupied since 1967), it must be remembered that it was a set of agreements between the Israelis and the Palestinians. Your claim the "propagandists that there never was a Palestine, that there never were any Palestinians, that they had no land or borders or rights," is out of context. You know, as well as everyone on the board, that the DoI --- SoP (as linked above), has been cited many times. You (likewise) know that the UN Acknowledgement has been cited many times.

I will acknowledge that both sides have made ancient territorial claims and entitlement which, and while interesting and intellectually stimulating, have no real impact on the territorial rights and sovereignty claimed in either the contemporary times (the last half century) or in the last 1000 years. None of the ancient claims, prior to that sovereignty claimed by the Ottoman Empire, has any foundation under modern times under modern terms.​

The Agreements (Oslo I and II) does not "change their borders and cede land they magically get the authority to do so." The agreements do not effect the sovereignty over their territory occupied since 1967 at all. There is no "Alice in Wonderland" association --- about it.

There is an argument to be made that there does not exist, within the territory occupied since 1967, a competent authority or a government with the capacity to actually represent the Palestinian People.

Most Respectfully,
R

What is the dispute?

What rights did they have after 1988 that they did not have before?

NONE they just never implemented them

 

[Hossfly]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The Dispute Resolution Process can be initiated under the authority of the:

The Liaison Committee established pursuant to Article X of the DOP shall ensure the smooth implementation of this Agreement. It shall deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.

Article X​

JOINT ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN LIAISON COMMITTEE
In order to provide for a smooth implementation of this Declaration of Principles and any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, upon the entry into force of this Declaration of Principles, a Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee will be established in order to deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.​

Theoretically if the JIPLC is deadlocked, they can move to an A/RES/25/2625 process (negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement). This still doesn't change the parties to the dispute.

I wasn't asking about procedures. I was asking about authority.

(COMMENT)

The key is that both parties to the Agreement (The DOP between Israel and the PLO) must agree, just as they must agree to any alternative process. Each party to the dispute must want to engage in a comprehensive peace accord process and agree to it being binding; whatever the outcome.

What type of "authority are you looking for?

Most Respectfully,
R

We have all heard a gazillion times from Israel's propagandists that there never was a Palestine, that there never were any Palestinians, that they had no land or borders or rights.

Now that the Palestinians are expected to accept partition, change their borders and cede land they magically get the authority to do so.

Seriously folks, you can't make this shit up.

Israel makes Alice in Wonderland look like the bastion of sanity.

You have things mixed up Tinmore. Israel is a sovereign state with internationally recognized boundaries. Palestine is the fantasy in this case. A made up country with a made up people.

Isn't it funny that several months after Israel declared independence, here come the so called Palestinians trying to do the same thing.

Is this how you live with yourselves by believing those whom you bomb and kill are a made up people that do not exist? Seriously, I truly pity you for you have no soul. ~ Susan

Have you ever thought that you always were an object of pity, Pishy, for your obsession with Israel and nothing else in the Middle East? You care about these Arabs the same way you care about the tens of thousands that have been killed by their fellow Arabs. How nice to have a group to use as your pawns in your fight against the Jews.

 

[Mindful]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The Dispute Resolution Process can be initiated under the authority of the:

The Liaison Committee established pursuant to Article X of the DOP shall ensure the smooth implementation of this Agreement. It shall deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.

Article X​

JOINT ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN LIAISON COMMITTEE
In order to provide for a smooth implementation of this Declaration of Principles and any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, upon the entry into force of this Declaration of Principles, a Joint Israeli-Palestinian Liaison Committee will be established in order to deal with issues requiring coordination, other issues of common interest and disputes.​

Theoretically if the JIPLC is deadlocked, they can move to an A/RES/25/2625 process (negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement). This still doesn't change the parties to the dispute.

I wasn't asking about procedures. I was asking about authority.

(COMMENT)

The key is that both parties to the Agreement (The DOP between Israel and the PLO) must agree, just as they must agree to any alternative process. Each party to the dispute must want to engage in a comprehensive peace accord process and agree to it being binding; whatever the outcome.

What type of "authority are you looking for?

Most Respectfully,
R

We have all heard a gazillion times from Israel's propagandists that there never was a Palestine, that there never were any Palestinians, that they had no land or borders or rights.

Now that the Palestinians are expected to accept partition, change their borders and cede land they magically get the authority to do so.

Seriously folks, you can't make this shit up.

Israel makes Alice in Wonderland look like the bastion of sanity.

You have things mixed up Tinmore. Israel is a sovereign state with internationally recognized boundaries. Palestine is the fantasy in this case. A made up country with a made up people.

Isn't it funny that several months after Israel declared independence, here come the so called Palestinians trying to do the same thing.

Is this how you live with yourselves by believing those whom you bomb and kill are a made up people that do not exist? Seriously, I truly pity you for you have no soul. ~ Susan

Have you ever thought that you always were an object of pity, Pishy, for your obsession with Israel and nothing else in the Middle East? You care about these Arabs the same way you care about the tens of thousands that have been killed by their fellow Arabs. How nice to have a group to use as your pawns in your fight against the Jews.

You should see the overt anti Jew stuff being regurgitated on another thread, concerning a man in the death cell awaiting execution. Who happens to be Jewish. Were he not Jewish, he would not be given the time of day.

I thought the world had moved on, since the days of primitive Jew baiting. Sadly, it seems it has not.

 

[Billo_Really]

Try again as CUSTOMARY INTERNATIONAL LAW is on Israel's side and clearly states they can occupy enemy territory for the defence of its citizens and does not have to give up the occupation until a peace deal is signed. Unless you have been given a team Palestine copy of the Geneva conventions

Then state the law, moron!

 

[Billo_Really]

Res 242 for starters that details the Palestine problem and clearly says that the Palestinians have to stop all acts of belligerence and talk peace and mutual borders. Try reading the authors notes on the finished article and you will see this spelt out.

242 doesn't say anything about negotiating borders. It does tell Israel to get the **** off land that isn't theirs.

You're such a dumbass! You constantly repeat debunked talking points.

 

[RoccoR]

Billo_Really, et al,

I think there is some misinterpretation here relative to the arrangement, and competentcy.

Res 242 for starters that details the Palestine problem and clearly says that the Palestinians have to stop all acts of belligerence and talk peace and mutual borders. Try reading the authors notes on the finished article and you will see this spelt out.

242 doesn't say anything about negotiating borders. It does tell Israel to get the **** off land that isn't theirs.

You're such a dumbass! You constantly repeat debunked talking points.

(COMMENT)

The commitment in S/RES/242 has been resolved by treaty. The Resolution was written in 1967. At that time the West Bank was sovereign territory of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, as Annexed in April 1950 pursuant to the authority mandated by the "new Jordanian parliament in which the Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank were equally represented" (with the Palestinians exercising their "right of self-determination). In 1967, the Israelis, in their control of the West Bank, were --- in fact --- occupying sovereign "Jordanian Territory." Thus, the territorial dispute was between the "State of Israel" versus the "Hashemite Kingdom;" (not the Palestinians).

It will be two decades next month, that the Treaty of Peace between the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan and the State of Israel (A/50/73 S/1995/83) was concluded on the 9 January 1995. In that treaty, you will note that Article 3 defines the international boundary between Israel and Jordan.

You will also note that while the Treaty is concluded, "without prejudice to the status of the territory," it is also
"Aiming at the achievement of a just, lasting and comprehensive peace in the Middle East based an Security Council resolutions 242 and 338 in all their aspects."

You will also notice that pursuant to S/RES/242, the Treaty effectively terminates "all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force."

There is an argument to be made (and litigated yet) that the territory between the Green Line (armistice demarcation line between Israeli and Arab forces) and the former eastern boundary of Palestine under the Mandate were occupied (Hague Regulations of 1907) by Israel in 1967 during the armed conflict between Israel and Jordan. Under customary international law, these are therefore occupied territories in which Israel had the status of occupying Power --- when it is actually under the authority of the Israeli Defense Force (Article 42 of the Hague Regulation).

It is often generalized that the Gaza Strip, the West Bank and East Jerusalem remain described as occupied Palestinian territories (oPt) and Israel has continued to have the status of Occupying Power. But the question remains, when did the Palestinians ever establish sovereignty over any of those territories? While one can argue that the Palestinians Declared Independence in 1988, has the State of Palestine ever established Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations (A/RES/2625)? Does it act as a nation that is committed to the Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State? Is it really a nation, or something else?

(ANNEX in OBSERVATION)

Resolution 242 (1967)
of 22 November 1967 ​

S/RES/242
The Security Council,

Expressing its continuing concern with the grave situation in the Middle East,

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security,

Emphasizing further that all Member States in their acceptance of the Charter of the United Nations have undertaken a commitment to act in accordance with Article 2 of the Charter,

1. Affirms that the fulfilment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles:

(i) Withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;

(ii) Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force;​

2. Affirms further the necessity

(a) For guaranteeing freedom of navigation through international waterways in the area;

(b) For achieving a just settlement of the refugee problem;

(c) For guaranteeing the territorial inviolability and political independence of every State in the area, through measures including the establishment of demilitarized zones;​

3. Requests the Secretary-General to designate a Special Representative to proceed to the Middle East to establish and maintain contacts with the States concerned in order to promote agreement and assist efforts to achieve a peaceful and accepted settlement in accordance with the provisions and principles in this resolution;

4. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Security Council on the progress of the efforts of the

Special Representative as soon as possible.
Adopted unanimously at the 1382nd meeting. ​

Resolution 338 (1973)
of 22 October 1973 ​

S/RES/338
The Security Council

1. Calls upon all parties to the present fighting to cease all firing and terminate all military activity immediately, no later than 12 hours after the moment of the adoption of this decision, in the positions they now occupy;

2. Calls upon the parties concerned to start immediately after the cease-fire the implementation of Security Council resolution 242 (1967) in all of its parts;

3. Decides that, immediately and concurrently with the cease-fire, negotiations shall start between the parties concerned under appropriate auspices aimed at establishing a just and durable peace in the Middle East.

Adopted at the 1747th meeting by 14 votes to none.​

1/​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Phoenall]

Try again as CUSTOMARY INTERNATIONAL LAW is on Israel's side and clearly states they can occupy enemy territory for the defence of its citizens and does not have to give up the occupation until a peace deal is signed. Unless you have been given a team Palestine copy of the Geneva conventions

Then state the law, moron!

Geneva conventions, you know the rules of war agreed by the P.A. You cant educate idiots that are fixated on their JEW HATREDS AND NAZI ANTI SEMITISM can you

 

[Phoenall]

Res 242 for starters that details the Palestine problem and clearly says that the Palestinians have to stop all acts of belligerence and talk peace and mutual borders. Try reading the authors notes on the finished article and you will see this spelt out.

242 doesn't say anything about negotiating borders. It does tell Israel to get the **** off land that isn't theirs.

You're such a dumbass! You constantly repeat debunked talking points.

Just as I constantly repeat the section of 242 that does say they need to negotiate mutual borders

United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


Operative Paragraph One "Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles:
(i) Withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;
(ii) Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force." [4]