Approval Rating: 10th of Last 12 Presidents

[Annie]

Months ago I warned the cognitive dissonance between what the public put their approval ratings and their assessments on issues, it's taking hold now:

Poll: Less faith in Obama's economic abilities - USATODAY.com

Poll: Less faith in Obama's economic abilities
By Susan Page, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Qualms about President Obama's stewardship of the economy are growing, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, as Americans become more pessimistic about when they predict the recession will end.
At six months in office, Obama's 55% approval rating puts him 10th among the 12 post-World War II presidents at this point in their tenures. When he took office, he ranked seventh.,,,

 

[sealybobo]

Months ago I warned the cognitive dissonance between what the public put their approval ratings and their assessments on issues, it's taking hold now:

Poll: Less faith in Obama's economic abilities - USATODAY.com

Poll: Less faith in Obama's economic abilities
By Susan Page, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Qualms about President Obama's stewardship of the economy are growing, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, as Americans become more pessimistic about when they predict the recession will end.
At six months in office, Obama's 55% approval rating puts him 10th among the 12 post-World War II presidents at this point in their tenures. When he took office, he ranked seventh.,,,

Obama's at 61%, if you believe the numbers.

And is there any doubt why? I think it should be clear who's obstructing progress on all issues like Healthcare and the economy. Any time we try to fix something, the lobbyists come running in to pay off the politicians to obstruct.

And to those who say there is no difference between the two parties, you are admitting that the corporations do control the process. That means they own us. That means your vote doesn't count for shit. But clearly you don't care about the right to vote. If you did, the 2000 and 2004 elections would have upset you.

And so when you say Dems are no better, you are proving my point that corporations have gotten too powerful and involved in our politics. So checkmate either way.

I don't give a fuck about the Democrats. I just know the GOP is corrupt. The Dems aren't as corrupt because at least with them there is a chance.

Will they/we win on healthcare? Probably not. But remember, if the GOP were in charge, their position would be that healthcare is just fine and let the free markets decide. And give the healthcare giants more tax breaks.. Yea.

Boehner's approval rating is at 15%. But the corporate media wants you to believe that Obama's popularity is bad at 61%? Only because it was at 80%. People are just frustrated that he can't get anything done. But he won't lose in 2012. Who's gonna beat him?

 

[KMAN]

Great opinion booboo... evidentally the rest of the country is starting not to agree with you though....

 

[sealybobo]

Great opinion booboo... evidentally the rest of the country is starting not to agree with you though....

People are starting to question single payer/public option because of all the lies that are circulating. Their being feared by the lies. Its 10 or 15 sellout Democrats and a really good anti reform campaign that is blocking any results. We saw it all before in the 90's when they did this to Hillary.

Where is the liberal media on this? So this proves the media isn't really liberal. If it were, it would be pushing for a public plan. It would be calling out the blue dogs. So this proves the media is corporate controlled.

And why are people like John Kerry flip flopping on this? Why is Max Baucus against single payer? Don't say that they have "come to their senses" or that they are "centrist" democrat with common sense. It only makes you look stupid or like a liar, because you know they are getting $ from the healthcare industry to squash any reforms.

So you are an advocate of corporations calling all the shots. Don't ever say you want campaign or lobby reform. You'd be lying. You hate government so much you want the for profits to run/own the country. Really smart.

And the people are stupid. They are uninformed. Hell, you are informed as hell and you are still wrong. Imagine how easy it is for the under informed to be wrong. So imagine the masses who don't even pay close attention. They'll swallow any lie you tell them if enough of the media is on your side.

Holy shit Fox was soooo negative on the Dems last night. I couldn't watch.

 

[KMAN]

Great opinion booboo... evidentally the rest of the country is starting not to agree with you though....

People are starting to question single payer/public option because of all the lies that are circulating. Their being feared by the lies. Its 10 or 15 sellout Democrats and a really good anti reform campaign that is blocking any results. We saw it all before in the 90's when they did this to Hillary.

Where is the liberal media on this? So this proves the media isn't really liberal. If it were, it would be pushing for a public plan. It would be calling out the blue dogs. So this proves the media is corporate controlled.

And why are people like John Kerry flip flopping on this? Why is Max Baucus against single payer? Don't say that they have "come to their senses" or that they are "centrist" democrat with common sense. It only makes you look stupid or like a liar, because you know they are getting $ from the healthcare industry to squash any reforms.

So you are an advocate of corporations calling all the shots. Don't ever say you want campaign or lobby reform. You'd be lying. You hate government so much you want the for profits to run/own the country. Really smart.

And the people are stupid. They are uninformed. Hell, you are informed as hell and you are still wrong. Imagine how easy it is for the under informed to be wrong. So imagine the masses who don't even pay close attention. They'll swallow any lie you tell them if enough of the media is on your side.

Holy shit Fox was soooo negative on the Dems last night. I couldn't watch.

It's amazing how much you know about me but don't know about politics.... people are flipping on this because realize their taxes are going up and 2nd their voters don't want it....period... These politicians don't care about anything but votes... If their people wanted it they would vote for it... They are worried about their own ass come election time....It's not really that hard to figure for most of us...sheesh

Obama is not getting a free pass anymore and people are starting realize it...

 

[Oddball]

And the people are stupid. They are uninformed. Hell, you are informed as hell and you are still wrong. Imagine how easy it is for the under informed to be wrong. So imagine the masses who don't even pay close attention.

Good thing you exclude yourself from those "people", huh

 

[Meister]

Great opinion booboo... evidentally the rest of the country is starting not to agree with you though....

People are starting to question single payer/public option because of all the lies that are circulating. Their being feared by the lies. Its 10 or 15 sellout Democrats and a really good anti reform campaign that is blocking any results. We saw it all before in the 90's when they did this to Hillary.

Where is the liberal media on this? So this proves the media isn't really liberal. If it were, it would be pushing for a public plan. It would be calling out the blue dogs. So this proves the media is corporate controlled.

And why are people like John Kerry flip flopping on this? Why is Max Baucus against single payer? Don't say that they have "come to their senses" or that they are "centrist" democrat with common sense. It only makes you look stupid or like a liar, because you know they are getting $ from the healthcare industry to squash any reforms.

So you are an advocate of corporations calling all the shots. Don't ever say you want campaign or lobby reform. You'd be lying. You hate government so much you want the for profits to run/own the country. Really smart.

And the people are stupid. They are uninformed. Hell, you are informed as hell and you are still wrong. Imagine how easy it is for the under informed to be wrong. So imagine the masses who don't even pay close attention. They'll swallow any lie you tell them if enough of the media is on your side.

Holy shit Fox was soooo negative on the Dems last night. I couldn't watch.

Have you ever thought that it isn't everyone else that is wrong, bobo....but, it just might be you? But, don't change because good entertainment is hard to come by these days.

 

[sealybobo]

Great opinion booboo... evidentally the rest of the country is starting not to agree with you though....

People are starting to question single payer/public option because of all the lies that are circulating. Their being feared by the lies. Its 10 or 15 sellout Democrats and a really good anti reform campaign that is blocking any results. We saw it all before in the 90's when they did this to Hillary.

Where is the liberal media on this? So this proves the media isn't really liberal. If it were, it would be pushing for a public plan. It would be calling out the blue dogs. So this proves the media is corporate controlled.

And why are people like John Kerry flip flopping on this? Why is Max Baucus against single payer? Don't say that they have "come to their senses" or that they are "centrist" democrat with common sense. It only makes you look stupid or like a liar, because you know they are getting $ from the healthcare industry to squash any reforms.

So you are an advocate of corporations calling all the shots. Don't ever say you want campaign or lobby reform. You'd be lying. You hate government so much you want the for profits to run/own the country. Really smart.

And the people are stupid. They are uninformed. Hell, you are informed as hell and you are still wrong. Imagine how easy it is for the under informed to be wrong. So imagine the masses who don't even pay close attention. They'll swallow any lie you tell them if enough of the media is on your side.

Holy shit Fox was soooo negative on the Dems last night. I couldn't watch.

It's amazing how much you know about me but don't know about politics.... people are flipping on this because realize their taxes are going up and 2nd their voters don't want it....period... These politicians don't care about anything but votes... If their people wanted it they would vote for it... They are worried about their own ass come election time....It's not really that hard to figure for most of us...sheesh

Obama is not getting a free pass anymore and people are starting realize it...

And you claim to know whats going on?

People aren't flipping. They're being scared/lied to. Very effective. And the politicians that are flipping, well, follow the money buddy. And don't claim dems are corrupt too and then deny the ones taking $ from the healthcare lobbyists are not guilty, just because now you like the outcome. And don't cry about campaign finance or lobby reform, because you love how this system is corrupted. It works for you and the private companies. You're a dummy. I know that much. You think this benefits you? Stupid American voters. The rich ones aren't dumb, but you are not rich.

 

[sealybobo]

And the people are stupid. They are uninformed. Hell, you are informed as hell and you are still wrong. Imagine how easy it is for the under informed to be wrong. So imagine the masses who don't even pay close attention.

Good thing you exclude yourself from those "people", huh

Yes. You can't even grasp what I'm telling you. I'll try anyways. The Dems are no better when it comes to taking money from lobbyists, right?

And the Dems blocking healthcare reform are the ones that are taking money from the lobbyists.

But you won't admit that the GOP are taking money from lobbyists and working for them instead of us?

And now you want to say the blue dog dems are the honest ones?

And I didn't flip flop on my desire to reform healthcare, the sheeple of this country did. And so much for it being a liberal media if it was able to do that. Its amazing how many ways you are either wrong or lying.

We elected these mother fuckers to reform healthcare. I don't give a fuck about your fake ass public opinion polls.

When you trust your television, what you get is what you got, cause when they own the information oh, they can bend it all they want. John Mayer

 

[sealybobo]

Great opinion booboo... evidentally the rest of the country is starting not to agree with you though....

People are starting to question single payer/public option because of all the lies that are circulating. Their being feared by the lies. Its 10 or 15 sellout Democrats and a really good anti reform campaign that is blocking any results. We saw it all before in the 90's when they did this to Hillary.

Where is the liberal media on this? So this proves the media isn't really liberal. If it were, it would be pushing for a public plan. It would be calling out the blue dogs. So this proves the media is corporate controlled.

And why are people like John Kerry flip flopping on this? Why is Max Baucus against single payer? Don't say that they have "come to their senses" or that they are "centrist" democrat with common sense. It only makes you look stupid or like a liar, because you know they are getting $ from the healthcare industry to squash any reforms.

So you are an advocate of corporations calling all the shots. Don't ever say you want campaign or lobby reform. You'd be lying. You hate government so much you want the for profits to run/own the country. Really smart.

And the people are stupid. They are uninformed. Hell, you are informed as hell and you are still wrong. Imagine how easy it is for the under informed to be wrong. So imagine the masses who don't even pay close attention. They'll swallow any lie you tell them if enough of the media is on your side.

Holy shit Fox was soooo negative on the Dems last night. I couldn't watch.

Have you ever thought that it isn't everyone else that is wrong, bobo....but, it just might be you? But, don't change because good entertainment is hard to come by these days.

I'm not alone. And have you ever thought that maybe you are wrong?

Answer me those questions I asked earlier.

1. Which Dems are "just as bad" as Republicans?

I say its the blue dogs who are taking money from the healthcare lobbyists.

Or is it the socialist Democrats? But don't you guys suggest that Obama is a sellout too? But then he can't be a socialist.

I say the ones you call socialists are the ones who truly work for the American people. The blue dogs are the ones that are just as bad as the GOP, and they are the ones that are taking money from the lobbyists.

So you see which side of the argument you are on.

 

[Oddball]

I grasp just fine.

You're a room-temperature IQ shrieking moonbat, who talks shit about "people", while conveniently excluding himself from the "people" he's talking shit about.

 

[Meister]

People are starting to question single payer/public option because of all the lies that are circulating. Their being feared by the lies. Its 10 or 15 sellout Democrats and a really good anti reform campaign that is blocking any results. We saw it all before in the 90's when they did this to Hillary.

Where is the liberal media on this? So this proves the media isn't really liberal. If it were, it would be pushing for a public plan. It would be calling out the blue dogs. So this proves the media is corporate controlled.

And why are people like John Kerry flip flopping on this? Why is Max Baucus against single payer? Don't say that they have "come to their senses" or that they are "centrist" democrat with common sense. It only makes you look stupid or like a liar, because you know they are getting $ from the healthcare industry to squash any reforms.

So you are an advocate of corporations calling all the shots. Don't ever say you want campaign or lobby reform. You'd be lying. You hate government so much you want the for profits to run/own the country. Really smart.

And the people are stupid. They are uninformed. Hell, you are informed as hell and you are still wrong. Imagine how easy it is for the under informed to be wrong. So imagine the masses who don't even pay close attention. They'll swallow any lie you tell them if enough of the media is on your side.

Holy shit Fox was soooo negative on the Dems last night. I couldn't watch.

Have you ever thought that it isn't everyone else that is wrong, bobo....but, it just might be you? But, don't change because good entertainment is hard to come by these days.

I'm not alone. And have you ever thought that maybe you are wrong?

Answer me those questions I asked earlier.

1. Which Dems are "just as bad" as Republicans?

I say its the blue dogs who are taking money from the healthcare lobbyists.

Or is it the socialist Democrats? But don't you guys suggest that Obama is a sellout too? But then he can't be a socialist.

I say the ones you call socialists are the ones who truly work for the American people. The blue dogs are the ones that are just as bad as the GOP, and they are the ones that are taking money from the lobbyists.

So you see which side of the argument you are on.

Who's arguing? I'm just sayin that your entertainment on this board. I can't take you seriously booboo.

 

[Caligirl]

This is stupid.

Obama is in charge. Of course his approval is going to drop, did you think it would go up?

The republicans that might run in 2012, none of them are in office anymore (expcept pawlenty). THey have *nothing* to do but campaign and promise on friendly shows. They can't go anywhere in opinion but up!

Everyone knew when Obama was sworn in, that 2012 only depends on one thing - whether we are better in four years. Period. That's their platform in 2012. They don't need anything else. And if we're worse off, he loses. Period.

And you can bet your bottom dollar that when Obama turns to campaigning in 2012, with his silver speeches, approval of him will increase from wherever it is.

 

[GHook93]

I don't put much stock in approval polls of current presidents!

Remember that during his time Lincoln was one of the most hated Presidents. If there were approval polls back then he would have set a record. Now look at Lincoln the man is considered by many the best President in US history!

 

[midcan5]

I don't put much stock in approval polls of current presidents!

Remember that during his time Lincoln was one of the most hated Presidents. If there were approval polls back then he would have set a record. Now look at Lincoln the man is considered by many the best President in US history!

Excellent point, a tough job requires change that challenges the status quo, never a good thing for embedded power. FDR had the same problems.

 

[ba1614]

This is stupid.

Obama is in charge. Of course his approval is going to drop, did you think it would go up?

The republicans that might run in 2012, none of them are in office anymore (expcept pawlenty). THey have *nothing* to do but campaign and promise on friendly shows. They can't go anywhere in opinion but up!

Everyone knew when Obama was sworn in, that 2012 only depends on one thing - whether we are better in four years. Period. That's their platform in 2012. They don't need anything else. And if we're worse off, he loses. Period.

And you can bet your bottom dollar that when Obama turns to campaigning in 2012, with his silver speeches, approval of him will increase from wherever it is.

He'll be able to keep it close just by busing everyone in to vote that's living on the public dole.

 

[sealybobo]

I grasp just fine.

You're a room-temperature IQ shrieking moonbat, who talks shit about "people", while conveniently excluding himself from the "people" he's talking shit about.

That's because I get it and you people don't. Some of THEM do, but YOU don't. I think you all know who you are.

And see, my questions below prove you vote for the most corrupt party and you swallow their lies...

but you won't answer my questions because they back your fat ass into a corner. Its called the Socratic Method. I'm Greek. We invented that shit. We invented everything. So yes, while you are only one or two step out of the cave, I am a philosopher and whatever they call those people who follow the stars. No not the Enquirer stupid, Astronomers.

 

[sealybobo]

This is stupid.

Obama is in charge. Of course his approval is going to drop, did you think it would go up?

The republicans that might run in 2012, none of them are in office anymore (expcept pawlenty). THey have *nothing* to do but campaign and promise on friendly shows. They can't go anywhere in opinion but up!

Everyone knew when Obama was sworn in, that 2012 only depends on one thing - whether we are better in four years. Period. That's their platform in 2012. They don't need anything else. And if we're worse off, he loses. Period.

And you can bet your bottom dollar that when Obama turns to campaigning in 2012, with his silver speeches, approval of him will increase from wherever it is.

He'll be able to keep it close just by busing everyone in to vote that's living on the public dole.

Links to back up your rediculous statement? Like, how many people in Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc are living on the public dole and will sway those states. You got nothing to back that bullshit up with because its just right wing nonsense.

I just wonder if you know you are fos or are you brainwashed by rush and don't even know it.

 

[Maple]

Sealy Bobo I don't know how any of us can be obstructionists when your party controls the house the senate and the Presidency. Hell you even have a filibuster proof senate. Go blame yourselves.

 

[Caligirl]

This is stupid.

Obama is in charge. Of course his approval is going to drop, did you think it would go up?

The republicans that might run in 2012, none of them are in office anymore (expcept pawlenty). THey have *nothing* to do but campaign and promise on friendly shows. They can't go anywhere in opinion but up!

Everyone knew when Obama was sworn in, that 2012 only depends on one thing - whether we are better in four years. Period. That's their platform in 2012. They don't need anything else. And if we're worse off, he loses. Period.

And you can bet your bottom dollar that when Obama turns to campaigning in 2012, with his silver speeches, approval of him will increase from wherever it is.

He'll be able to keep it close just by busing everyone in to vote that's living on the public dole.

Links to back up your rediculous statement? Like, how many people in Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc are living on the public dole and will sway those states. You got nothing to back that bullshit up with because its just right wing nonsense.

I just wonder if you know you are fos or are you brainwashed by rush and don't even know it.

(he was making a joke.)