Apparently, grifting runs in the family.

Polishprince said:
President Trump has enough on his plate already as our President. Thinking that he hasn't delegated these interests for his boys to take care of is ridiculous.
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Believing he has put part of his personal fortune in the hands of Eric without telling him what to do, for a control freak who thinks he is smarter than everybody..........you can't possibly think that is true.

trump breaks multiple laws you folks yawn. He says he will only enforce parts of the Constitution, you folks say so what. He profits from biz deals with foreign countries while prez, your eyes roll over. It's absurd.
 
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berg80 said:
Believing he has put part of his personal fortune in the hands of Eric without telling him what to do, for a control freak who thinks he is smarter than everybody..........you can't possibly think that is true.

trump breaks multiple laws you folks yawn. He says he will only enforce parts of the Constitution, you folks say so what. He profits from biz deals with foreign countries will prez, your eyes roll over. It's absurd.
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Another of the many things I wonder about is whether the chaos is by design or just the way he is.

The constant hurricane of insults and attacks and lies and intimidation and trolling and stupid/ignorant/juvenile comments & posts just wears you down. There's no way to keep up with it, so it just becomes normalized, part of the background. Then, when he tosses out a CLEAR AND OBVIOUS grift or con or lie, everyone just yawns.

Is this planned, or is it just an innate quality that some people possess?
 
Mac1958 said:
Another of the many things I wonder about is whether the chaos is by design or just the way he is.

The constant hurricane of insults and attacks and lies and intimidation and trolling and stupid/ignorant/juvenile comments & posts just wears you down. There's no way to keep up with it, so it just becomes normalized, part of the background. Then, when he tosses out a CLEAR AND OBVIOUS grift or con or lie, everyone just yawns.

Is this planned, or is it just an innate quality that some people possess?
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I think of it in terms of the thuggery of the 1980's teams like the NY Knicks and Detroit Pistons. They committed so many fouls the refs started letting things go. They normalized a style of play that was against the rules and got away with it. The salient point being getting away with it. If trump's criminal behavior had been stopped when he began fleecing investors in his casino company, or fleecing students of his real estate school, or stealing money from his charity, or sexually molesting women, he wouldn't behave as though he is above the law.......above moral standards........above ethics rules. Plus, he's being enabled by The Following.

As for the intentionality behind the chaos, I do think flooding the zone is part of the plan.
 
berg80 said:

A Trump Family Push for Profit on Three Continents Breaks Historical Norms​

A contest of sorts has played out across Europe, the United States and the Middle East in recent days as President Trump’s two older sons have pursued a blitz of family moneymaking ventures capitalizing on their father’s name and power, each seemingly trying to outdo the other.

It is a rush to cash in that involves billions of dollars with few precedents in American history.

A luxury hotel in Dubai. A second high-end residential tower in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Two cryptocurrency ventures based in the United States. A new golf course and villa complex in Qatar. And a new private club in Washington. In many cases these new deals promoted over the last week will personally benefit not only Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr., but also President Trump himself.
www.nytimes.com

Donald Jr. and Eric Trump Pursue New Deals That Would Enrich President Trump

The president’s older sons, Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump, spent the past two weeks traveling the world and announcing deals, many of which will financially benefit their father.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

The boys are chips off the old block. Who would have guessed? Ivanka, she's no slouch either.

Ivanka Trump Wins China Trademarks, Then Her Father Vows to Save ZTE​

BEIJING — China this month awarded Ivanka Trump seven new trademarks across a broad collection of businesses, including books, housewares and cushions.

At around the same time, President Trump vowed to find a way to prevent a major Chinese telecommunications company from going bust, even though the company has a history of violating American limits on doing business with countries like Iran and North Korea.
www.nytimes.com

Ivanka Trump Wins China Trademarks, Then Her Father Vows to Save ZTE (Published 2018)

The timing is likely a coincidence, experts say, but the moves have renewed questions from critics about President Trump’s potential conflict of interest.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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But of course!
 
berg80 said:

A Trump Family Push for Profit on Three Continents Breaks Historical Norms​

A contest of sorts has played out across Europe, the United States and the Middle East in recent days as President Trump’s two older sons have pursued a blitz of family moneymaking ventures capitalizing on their father’s name and power, each seemingly trying to outdo the other.

It is a rush to cash in that involves billions of dollars with few precedents in American history.

A luxury hotel in Dubai. A second high-end residential tower in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Two cryptocurrency ventures based in the United States. A new golf course and villa complex in Qatar. And a new private club in Washington. In many cases these new deals promoted over the last week will personally benefit not only Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr., but also President Trump himself.
www.nytimes.com

Donald Jr. and Eric Trump Pursue New Deals That Would Enrich President Trump

The president’s older sons, Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump, spent the past two weeks traveling the world and announcing deals, many of which will financially benefit their father.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

The boys are chips off the old block. Who would have guessed? Ivanka, she's no slouch either.

Ivanka Trump Wins China Trademarks, Then Her Father Vows to Save ZTE​

BEIJING — China this month awarded Ivanka Trump seven new trademarks across a broad collection of businesses, including books, housewares and cushions.

At around the same time, President Trump vowed to find a way to prevent a major Chinese telecommunications company from going bust, even though the company has a history of violating American limits on doing business with countries like Iran and North Korea.
www.nytimes.com

Ivanka Trump Wins China Trademarks, Then Her Father Vows to Save ZTE (Published 2018)

The timing is likely a coincidence, experts say, but the moves have renewed questions from critics about President Trump’s potential conflict of interest.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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Damn I thought it'd be a Biden thread
 
Its common in banana republics-both countries and states. Thats why when they lose, they are usually charged with lots of bribery, stealing of funds etc. This is just the latest wrinkle.
 
berg80 said:

A Trump Family Push for Profit on Three Continents Breaks Historical Norms​

A contest of sorts has played out across Europe, the United States and the Middle East in recent days as President Trump’s two older sons have pursued a blitz of family moneymaking ventures capitalizing on their father’s name and power, each seemingly trying to outdo the other.

It is a rush to cash in that involves billions of dollars with few precedents in American history.

A luxury hotel in Dubai. A second high-end residential tower in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Two cryptocurrency ventures based in the United States. A new golf course and villa complex in Qatar. And a new private club in Washington. In many cases these new deals promoted over the last week will personally benefit not only Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr., but also President Trump himself.
www.nytimes.com

Donald Jr. and Eric Trump Pursue New Deals That Would Enrich President Trump

The president’s older sons, Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump, spent the past two weeks traveling the world and announcing deals, many of which will financially benefit their father.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

The boys are chips off the old block. Who would have guessed? Ivanka, she's no slouch either.

Ivanka Trump Wins China Trademarks, Then Her Father Vows to Save ZTE​

BEIJING — China this month awarded Ivanka Trump seven new trademarks across a broad collection of businesses, including books, housewares and cushions.

At around the same time, President Trump vowed to find a way to prevent a major Chinese telecommunications company from going bust, even though the company has a history of violating American limits on doing business with countries like Iran and North Korea.
www.nytimes.com

Ivanka Trump Wins China Trademarks, Then Her Father Vows to Save ZTE (Published 2018)

The timing is likely a coincidence, experts say, but the moves have renewed questions from critics about President Trump’s potential conflict of interest.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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Sooooooo, they are building things, not selling out the USA to foreigners.

Good to know.
 
berg80 said:

A Trump Family Push for Profit on Three Continents Breaks Historical Norms​

A contest of sorts has played out across Europe, the United States and the Middle East in recent days as President Trump’s two older sons have pursued a blitz of family moneymaking ventures capitalizing on their father’s name and power, each seemingly trying to outdo the other.

It is a rush to cash in that involves billions of dollars with few precedents in American history.

A luxury hotel in Dubai. A second high-end residential tower in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Two cryptocurrency ventures based in the United States. A new golf course and villa complex in Qatar. And a new private club in Washington. In many cases these new deals promoted over the last week will personally benefit not only Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr., but also President Trump himself.
www.nytimes.com

Donald Jr. and Eric Trump Pursue New Deals That Would Enrich President Trump

The president’s older sons, Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump, spent the past two weeks traveling the world and announcing deals, many of which will financially benefit their father.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

The boys are chips off the old block. Who would have guessed? Ivanka, she's no slouch either.

Ivanka Trump Wins China Trademarks, Then Her Father Vows to Save ZTE​

BEIJING — China this month awarded Ivanka Trump seven new trademarks across a broad collection of businesses, including books, housewares and cushions.

At around the same time, President Trump vowed to find a way to prevent a major Chinese telecommunications company from going bust, even though the company has a history of violating American limits on doing business with countries like Iran and North Korea.
www.nytimes.com

Ivanka Trump Wins China Trademarks, Then Her Father Vows to Save ZTE (Published 2018)

The timing is likely a coincidence, experts say, but the moves have renewed questions from critics about President Trump’s potential conflict of interest.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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Ivanka was investigated for fraud in the Trump Hotel Vancouver bankruptcy (her first), which happened during Trump's first administration. Donnie must be so proud - her first bankruptcy, and before her 40th birthday.

In a commencement speech address Trump gave last week, he talked about how last time he was President all of the world leaders were laughing at him and making jokes about him, and now they're all kissing his ass over the tariffs. This makes me wonder if Trump is destroying the US economy just to get even with the rest of the world's leaders who (STILL) see him as a moronic buffoon.

It's certainly NOT because your business leaders think it's a good idea, but then none of the people who oppose tariffs have ever gone bankrupt even once, much less 6 times, so what do THEY know about running anything???
 
SassyIrishLass said:
If Bidum hadn't pardoned his corrupt spawn he'd be a convicted felon.

You can't possibly be this stupid. It's an act, right?
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Trump is already a convicted felon, a convicted tax evader, a self-admitted serial rapist, adjudicated sex offender, convicted fraudster, and been impeached twice. The Trumps are ALL way ahead of Hunter Biden, and they don't have the excuse of childhood trauma, PTSD from the car crash, and the death of their brother, as an excuse for their illegal behaviour.

Biden's crimes harmed no one but himself, while the Trump's continue to defraud the public at every turn.

What's your point???
 
The Left: Show us any support Joe Biden ever profited from business dealings while President.

The Right: We cant BUT there was a note that said "the big guy 10%" while Joe wasnt in office AND Joe talked to his son with other people in the room.

The Left: Look at all the business dealings Donald is profiting off of while in office that are publicly available to see clear as day.

The Right: But Biden!
 
Dragonlady said:
Trump is already a convicted felon, a convicted tax evader, a self-admitted serial rapist, adjudicated sex offender, convicted fraudster, and been impeached twice. The Trumps are ALL way ahead of Hunter Biden, and they don't have the excuse of childhood trauma, PTSD from the car crash, and the death of their brother, as an excuse for their illegal behaviour.

Biden's crimes harmed no one but himself, while the Trump's continue to defraud the public at every turn.

What's your point???
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You twist yourself into pretzels looking ignorant
 
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