anyone have a problem with

[danielpalos]

Trump pushing this?

White House may include mandatory E-Verify in immigration proposal

Yes, we a naturalization clause not an immigration clause. All foreign nationals in the US should be known to the general government and be federally identified. We should have no illegal problem or any illegal underclass.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Trump pushing this?

White House may include mandatory E-Verify in immigration proposal

I have a problem with ANY program ANY government thinks they have the authority to force me to participate in.

Left or right; conservative or liberal; Democrat or Republican, I say Hell no to control.

Nonsense.

Ensuring employers hire only those authorized to work in the US is necessary, proper, and constitutional.

It absolutely is NOT nor has been ruled as such. Employers should not have to be de facto agents for the government; the employer owns the job they create (we aren't socialist yet, Bernie); and the United States Supreme Court has ruled that it is not a crime for undocumented foreigners to be IN the U.S. without authorization.

Do we have a problem? Yes? It will NOT, however be resolved with big government socialism

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Trump pushing this?

White House may include mandatory E-Verify in immigration proposal

Yes, we a naturalization clause not an immigration clause. All foreign nationals in the US should be known to the general government and be federally identified. We should have no illegal problem or any illegal underclass.

Naturalization applies to citizenship; it has NOTHING to do with people coming here to participate in the free market.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Relevant reading...

''E-Verify almost certainly will be used for purposes unrelated to immigration. One potential use of E-Verify is to limit the job prospects of anyone whose lifestyle displeases the government. This could include those accused of failing to pay their fair share in taxes, those who homeschool or do not vaccinate their children, or those who own firearms.

Unscrupulous government officials could use E-Verify against those who practice antiwar, anti-tax, anti-surveillance, and anti-Federal Reserve activism. Those who consider this unlikely should remember the long history of the IRS targeting the political enemies of those in power and the use of anti-terrorism laws to harass antiwar activists. They should also consider the current moves to outlaw certain types of “politically incorrect” speech, such as disputing the alleged “consensus” regarding climate change.

Claiming that mandatory E-Verify is necessary to stop illegal immigration does not make it constitutional. Furthermore, having to ask the federal government for permission before obtaining a job is a characteristic of authoritarian societies, not free ones. History shows that mandatory E-Verify’s use will expand beyond immigration enforcement and could be used as a tool of political repression. All those who value liberty should oppose mandatory E-Verify.''

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[Porter Rockwell]

Relevant reading...

''E-Verify almost certainly will be used for purposes unrelated to immigration. One potential use of E-Verify is to limit the job prospects of anyone whose lifestyle displeases the government. This could include those accused of failing to pay their fair share in taxes, those who homeschool or do not vaccinate their children, or those who own firearms.

Unscrupulous government officials could use E-Verify against those who practice antiwar, anti-tax, anti-surveillance, and anti-Federal Reserve activism. Those who consider this unlikely should remember the long history of the IRS targeting the political enemies of those in power and the use of anti-terrorism laws to harass antiwar activists. They should also consider the current moves to outlaw certain types of “politically incorrect” speech, such as disputing the alleged “consensus” regarding climate change.

Claiming that mandatory E-Verify is necessary to stop illegal immigration does not make it constitutional. Furthermore, having to ask the federal government for permission before obtaining a job is a characteristic of authoritarian societies, not free ones. History shows that mandatory E-Verify’s use will expand beyond immigration enforcement and could be used as a tool of political repression. All those who value liberty should oppose mandatory E-Verify.''

Continued - E-Verify Threatens Us All

It is on that point that the right is as screwed up as they come. When the government possesses that much information on anyone, they cannot rebel against tyranny in government.

Trump isn't God and the political pendulum has a tendency to swing back and forth unpredictably. Thank you for an excellent post.

 

[danielpalos]

Trump pushing this?

White House may include mandatory E-Verify in immigration proposal

Yes, we a naturalization clause not an immigration clause. All foreign nationals in the US should be known to the general government and be federally identified. We should have no illegal problem or any illegal underclass.

Naturalization applies to citizenship; it has NOTHING to do with people coming here to participate in the free market.

it precludes an immigration clause. We should have no illegal problem or an illegal underclass with a naturalization clause.

We should have no illegal problem and should have more visitors to the US spending more money. Tourism is the first, second, or third largest employer in twenty-nine States.