Any debate on global warming now OVER!?

[ding]

I gave you one link as explained by nasa

Sure, but I don't get from that link what you are getting from that link. So can you walk me through your logic of how that link says increased CO2 leads to colder temperatures? Because I don't believe you understand what you read. In fact, it's saying the exact opposite of what you are saying. So either you didn't read it or you didn't understand what you read.

 

[jc456]

Sure, but I don't get from that link what you are getting from that link. So can you walk me through your logic of how that link says increased CO2 leads to colder temperatures? Because I don't believe you understand what you read. In fact, it's saying the exact opposite of what you are saying. So either you didn't read it or you didn't understand what you read.

No

 

[abu afak]

Yup, the debate is Over.
Skookerasbil LOST.
He Started the Wrongest thread EVER made here with his NINE Year running "Skeptics are Winning" thread in 2013-2022.
Nailed it!
Astonishing Call in 2013!

And it's looking like 2024 might beat 2023!


`

 

[ding]

the Wrongest thread

The wrongest thread?

 

[skookerasbil]

So temperatures all over the country....ball busting cold and the AP reporting today that "more frequent cold spells can be expected due to global warming".

But wait....

Just tuned in CNN at 6pm to hear about the California fires...they reported "this is what happens in a warming world"

Oh well...now it's perfectly clear....

 

[EMH]

So temperatures all over the country....ball busting cold and the AP reporting today that "more frequent cold spells can be expected due to global warming".

But wait....

Just tuned in CNN at 6pm to hear about the California fires...they reported "this is what happens in a warming world"

Oh well...now it's perfectly clear....

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Just how dumb does one have to be to believe that??

Wow...


DESPERATE, CO2 FRAUD is... and very very worried about Trump's DOJ...

 

[skookerasbil]

Whoooops

New England energy policy prices off the hook expensive.

https://www.realclearenergy.org/art...f_regional_green_energy_policies_1083120.html

Who's not winning?

 

[skookerasbil]

Thread on it's way to all time ePiCness in the ENVIRONMENT Forum

 

[cnm]

Nailed it!
Astonishing Call in 2013!

It's a gift.

 

[luiza]

If you think we should just hide our heads in the sand and hope God saves us, you are demented beyond help.

Clown .
That is what you said .
Not me .

Think before you write .

 

[skookerasbil]

Oooooops

Even I missed what a gigantic kicks in the nuts the election loss was on liberals climate change policy efforts.

A bOOming kick....

The 2024 Presidential Election Will Make or Break U.S. Climate Action

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Oooooops

A facial to all the climate crusaders....and have to say, after 15 years in this forum, I'm laughing.

"A funny thing happened as the WaPo tried to map out half a billion years of global temperatures and the "disaster of global warming""

No global warming...not even close

MSM Journos Inadvertently Reveal Shocking Truth About Global Warming | ZeroHedge

Btw...note the source on the graph in the article

What debate ?

 

[jc456]

What debate ?

Exactly, what debate?

 

[cnm]

There's no debate. The coolists have melted into a steaming puddle of irrelevance.

Kudos for the wrongest thread ever though.

 

[EMH]

There's no debate. The coolists have melted into a steaming puddle of irrelevance.

Kudos for the wrongest thread ever though.

To refute "Global Warming" does not require proof of cooling, it just requires proof of NO WARMING....

as in what the data actually reads...

NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING in the OCEANS
NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT
NO BREAKOUT in CANE ACTIVITY
NO OCEAN RISE
NO RISE IN SURFACE AIR PRESSURE


"warming" REFUTED

 

[ding]

To refute "Global Warming" does not require proof of cooling, it just requires proof of NO WARMING....

as in what the data actually reads...

NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING in the OCEANS
NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT
NO BREAKOUT in CANE ACTIVITY
NO OCEAN RISE
NO RISE IN SURFACE AIR PRESSURE


"warming" REFUTED

The atmosphere is warming.
The oceans are warming.
There is ongoing deglaciation.
Sea level is rising.

And all of that is perfectly natural during an interglacial period when the northern hemisphere is deglaciating.

Hurricanes are statistical weather events and are meaningless in this discussion and prove nothing either way.

You don't understand surface air pressure at all so your conclusion is flawed.

Tell me more about that fake physics degree you have.

 

[EMH]

The atmosphere is warming.

not according to the highly correlated satellite and balloon data

The oceans are warming

Hawaii isn't warming, proving neither is Pacific Ocean.

There is no breakout in hurricane activity, proving oceans are not warming

There is ongoing deglaciation

But you cannot show us ONE SINGLE PHOTO of "ocean rise" because there is NO OCEAN RISE

And SAP would be increasing if ice was melting and releasing compressed gas back into atmosphere, but SAP is NOT INCREASING, refuting the narrative entirely





You are exhibit A of a taxpayer funded CO2 FRAUD "faux skeptic." You insist all FUDGED FRAUD is "real data" when it obviously is not. You run away from climate questions. You cannot refute one word of LAND NEAR THE POLES. You are just a cocksucking taxpayer funded Zionist Fascist SCUMBAG SCIENCE INVALID who endlessly argues

WATER CAUSES ICE

 

[ding]

not according to the highly correlated satellite and balloon data





Hawaii isn't warming, proving neither is Pacific Ocean.

There is no breakout in hurricane activity, proving oceans are not warming





But you cannot show us ONE SINGLE PHOTO of "ocean rise" because there is NO OCEAN RISE

And SAP would be increasing if ice was melting and releasing compressed gas back into atmosphere, but SAP is NOT INCREASING, refuting the narrative entirely





You are exhibit A of a taxpayer funded CO2 FRAUD "faux skeptic." You insist all FUDGED FRAUD is "real data" when it obviously is not. You run away from climate questions. You cannot refute one word of LAND NEAR THE POLES. You are just a cocksucking taxpayer funded Zionist Fascist SCUMBAG SCIENCE INVALID who endlessly argues

WATER CAUSES ICE

Tell me more about your fake physics degree. That way I will be better able to explain your errors to you.

 

[jc456]

The atmosphere is warming.

How so? Atmosphere temperatures change daily warm to cool. So explain please.

The oceans are warming.

Again, where are they warming? No increase in Hurricanes has occurred, which would be a key indicator as we've been told.

There is ongoing deglaciation.

Deglaciation has been happening for a long while now. Ice takes time to melt.

Sea level is rising.

Where is sea level rising? I've asked in here before, CrusaderFrank and I have used Guam island that hasn't moved or sunk yet. So specifically, where is sea rise at?

And all of that is perfectly natural during an interglacial period when the northern hemisphere is deglaciating.

Agree that any activity is all natural.

Hurricanes are statistical weather events and are meaningless in this discussion and prove nothing either way.

No increase in hurricanes disproves any additional warming of the oceans.

 

[ding]

How so? Atmosphere temperatures change daily warm to cool. So explain please.

I agree that global temperature reconstructions are bullshit and that coming up with a single temperature for the planet is fraught with potential error. The best way to know what the planet is doing is not from global temperature reconstructions but from ice core data from the northern hemisphere polar region and from understanding the temperature ranges of previous interglacial glacial periods.

You might ask why polar regions? Or why northern hemisphere? Which are excellent questions because until one understands how the planet's unique landmass distribution is driving the planet's climate then questions like is the planet warming or should the planet be warming are meaningless because they have no proper context of what is normal.

But to directly answer your question....

Much of the last 10.000 years has been as warm or warmer than today so in that regard today's global average temperature is not out of range.

Greenland Ice Core ^

The current warming trend began ~400 years ago at the end of the little ice age which was 200 to 250 years before the industrial revolution began.

If we look at past interglacial periods we see that the present interglacial period is 2C cooler than previous interglacials and that is with 120 ppm more atmospheric CO2. So the present interglacial is still in its normal range. And in fact, from an empirical perspective one must ask why it wouldn't continue to warm naturally until the next glacial period began. After all this is the trend of the past 3 million years.