Any debate on global warming now OVER!?

[jc456]

Yeah it is. You just do not like it.

North American Ice Age, 50 million to 10k years ago, made North America a lot colder than today. So, yeah, there was more mountain ice. As North America moved SW and away from the North Pole, it got warmer, the 5+ million cubic miles of ice called Laurentide Ice Sheet melted, and the mountain ice shrank with that.

DUH....

Again, I provided a video explaining this and you still ignore the scientist in the video on why the ice melted in NA.

 

[westwall]

dude, I just posted the fking video for the second time. Are your memory skills that diminished now?

He refuses to look at anything that counters his silly beliefs.

 

[otto105]

Hey, did you know that AZ is a desert region? Guess what happens in deserts? it gets hot. So the climate hasn't changed as you just pointed out. Hot is hot. There's no difference between five over 100 days and 10 over 100 days because you have fking no clue how many times in the history of that area had over 10 100 degree days. Feel free to post that data for us? I know you won't because you can't, you're merely turretting nonsense as always.

How about 100 days over 100 degrees?

 

[otto105]

so you have nothing as always. boring.

One cannot debate a toddler.

Your denial makes you a toddler.

 

[jc456]

How about 100 days over 100 degrees?

what about it? it's a fking desert. Would never happen, but it's a desert and hot is what a desert is. It is the climate of the area.

 

[jc456]

One cannot debate a toddler.

Your denial makes you a toddler.

and yet you're here with your pacifier.

 

[otto105]

what about it? it's a fking desert. Would never happen, but it's a desert and hot is what a desert is. It is the climate of the area.

Yeah sure toddler

https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...l-phoenix-drop-below-100-degrees/75143812007/

I bet you don’t think CO2 has any effect on temperature too.

 

[alang1216]

Oil leaks continuously from undersea deposits on the ocean floor. These leaks are harmless because these are several types of bacteria that subsist on oil and excrete a harmless substance. Even oil spills like Deep Water Horizon are gobbled up by hungry bacteria.

Harmless to who? Should this 'gobbling' take decades?

Deepwater Horizon (DWH) spill began on April 10, 2010 and released 507 million liters of light Louisiana crude oil from 1600 m on the ocean floor into the Gulf of Mexico over an 87-day period. The DWH spill exposed a diversity of complex aquatic communities in the deep ocean, offshore pelagic areas, and coastal environments. Large scale persistent ecological effects included impacts to deep ocean corals, failed recruitment of oysters over multiple years, damage to coastal wetlands, and reduced dolphin, sea turtle, and seabird populations.

 

[ding]

Harmless to who? Should this 'gobbling' take decades?

Deepwater Horizon (DWH) spill began on April 10, 2010 and released 507 million liters of light Louisiana crude oil from 1600 m on the ocean floor into the Gulf of Mexico over an 87-day period. The DWH spill exposed a diversity of complex aquatic communities in the deep ocean, offshore pelagic areas, and coastal environments. Large scale persistent ecological effects included impacts to deep ocean corals, failed recruitment of oysters over multiple years, damage to coastal wetlands, and reduced dolphin, sea turtle, and seabird populations.

Maybe you should stop using petroleum products.

 

[alang1216]

Maybe you should stop using petroleum products.

I agree.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So the answer to the thread title requires context.

Is the debate still on, as far as what happens next with the climate? About details of the mechanisms of AGW?

Of course.

Is there still any serious debate over humans causing the rapid warming we are observing today?

No.

 

[ding]

I agree.

I guess that makes you a hypocrite. I don't have that problem. I don't see a problem. If anything we should be using more.

 

[ding]

So the answer to the thread title requires context.

Is the debate still on, as far as what happens next with the climate? About details of the mechanisms of AGW?

Of course.

Is there still any serious debate over humans causing the rapid warming we are observing today?

No.

I disagree. There is still "serious debate" and the warming isn't any different than any of the 30 other times the northern hemisphere deglaciated in the past 3 million years.

To argue it is settled is the antithesis of science. Science is never settled. And anyone who squelches challenges or investigation is a cunty little ***** that should be ***** slapped.

 

[EMH]

dude, I just posted the fking video for the second time. Are your memory skills that diminished now?

and that video has ZERO EVIDENCE of the direction of ocean currents 50, 100, 10k 100k years ago, ZERO.

Pure made up bullshit.

 

[EMH]

are they within 600 miles of the poles?

No, a few are. The Transantarctic Mountain range is.

90% Antarctica
7% Greenland
0.3% Ellesmere

The three ice ages have 97.3% of Earth ice. The rest is mountains and sea ice.

 

[EMH]

Again, I provided a video explaining this and you still ignore the scientist in the video on why the ice melted in NA.

Translation = I have beak and birdbrain. I have no understanding of tectonic plate movement, ice cores, ice age glacier speed, age of glacier ice by height, but I can parrot a Youtube video that is blown away here.... RIGHT HERE...

Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...

What is an ICE AGE? Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice...

www.usmessageboard.com

The lies of Milankovich Cycles aka McBullshit - where was land mass Antarctica 70 million years ago

McBullshit claims Antarctica has been on the South Pole forever, it never moved at all. And, while it is on the South Pole, it has rapidly gone from ice age to tropical paradise and back over and over.... a Dennis Quaid theory for sure... We know that Antarctica has 70 million year old...

www.usmessageboard.com

How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?

This is where the climate debate is now stuck. Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today. Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very...

www.usmessageboard.com

but I will insist my video is right, because I cannot debate basic science, but I can shout down and troll....

 

[EMH]

He refuses to look at anything that counters his silly beliefs.

There should be some reason to believe that it took only 75k years for an ice age that started in Northern Canada to put 2.5 mile thick glacier on Chicago.

The only reason to believe that is because the Co2 FRAUD desperately will not admit the truth that


Greenland froze while North America thawed.


What does the data say about 2.5 mile thick ice age glacier??


My side, which is just me now, since all of the pre 2010 reports on North American Ice Age online have been "canceled" and replaced by McBullshit, is that North America was covered with Ice Age glacier down to Chicago and beyond for 30-50 million years.


So we have a dispute, a healthy thing for SCIENCE...

What is the EVIDENCE???


1. LIFE

Any evidence of LIFE on Chicago for the past 50 million years .... NO

Any evidence of LIFE on Greenland.... YES

Ancient Greenland Was Actually Green

Greenland was once carpeted in lush forests, a new study shows.

www.livescience.com

The DNA is proof that sometime between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago, much of Greenland was especially green and covered in a boreal forest that was home to alder, spruce and pine trees, as well as insects such as butterflies and beetle

A 2-million-year-old ecosystem in Greenland uncovered by environmental DNA - Nature

Analysis of two-million-year-old ancient environmental DNA from the Kap København Formation in North Greenland shows there was an open boreal forest with diverse plant and animal species, of which several taxa have not previously been detected at the site, representing an ecosystem that has no...

www.nature.com

So it is fair to say that the ice covering Greenland started up north in the past 2 million years, got to the middle of Greenland 400-800k years ago, and flushed out the Vikings in the 1400s on the southern tip, since when the Vikings found the Southern Tip of Greenland, they called it GREENland because it was green and were able to farm there for centuries before the Greenland ice age pushed them off...


Any evidence of life on Antarctica?

antarctic dinosaurs 70 million years ago - Google Search

This Cretaceous period dinosaur lived about 70 million years ago, towards the end of the Mesozoic Era. A bipedal, long-necked, plant-eating dinosaur (a sauropod) was discovered in the Antarctic interior by William R. Hammer and his team in late 2003.


For the record, prior to 2010 nobody disputed that Antarctic ice was at least 40 million years old. McBullshit disputes that completely...


2. Speed of ice age glacier

Indeed, the data from Greenland above is the best data we have, since it is recent and conclusive. It took Greenland's ice age somewhere between 500k years and 2 million years from its beginning at the northern part of Greenland to get to where it is now.


That is WAY SLOWER than McBullshit suggests. Ice age glacier moves at a GLACIAL speed, in Greenland's case about a mile every thousand years. By this speed, an ice age beginning in Northern Canada would not get 1/10th of the way to Chicago in 75k years.




3. size of the glacier

Greenland's ice is not yet 2 miles thick anywhere. Below the Arctic Circle, Greenland's ice is under 1 mile thick.

Hence the claim of 2.5 mile thick glacier on Chicago being 75k years old is, well, NOT SUPPORTED BY DATA POINT GREENLAND at all.

Antarctica has 2.5 mile thick glacier. There is a dispute over the age of those too. McBullshit claims it is not that old and that while sitting on the South Pole Antarctica has frozen and thawed over and over like Dennis Quaid claimed in the movie "Day After Tomorrow"



4. ice cores

antarctic ice cores years - Google Search

The oldest continuous ice core records to date extend 123,000 years in Greenland and 800,000 years in Antarctica. Ice cores contain information about past temperature, and about many other aspects of the environment


And hence it is fair to say that the 2.5 mile thick glacier on Antarctica is WAY OLDER than 75k years... to put it mildly.

Even the Greenland ice is way older than that too, and it has yet to get to 2 miles thick



5. tectonic plate movement

Reiny recently claimed Greenland is part of North America. Not on my map. But it is on the SAME TECTONIC PLATE moving on the same vector because of the angle of the fault in the North Atlantic

north atlantic ocean floor map - Bing

Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you.

www.bing.com

That fault has pushed Greenland NW and Europe SE for tens of millions of years, and hence explains why all of Europe's glaciers are melting while Greenland went into ice age. It was also pushing North America NW until NA got to its closest point to the pole, and then NA started moving SW on the SAME VECTOR on a SPHERE...

Accepting the 600 miles to the pole = your land entered an ice age

North America would have been in ice age for 30-50 million years, and would have been where Greenland is today 30-50 million years ago. The accepted date of that prior to 2010 was 50 million years...




Hence, the evidence that the glaciers on Chicago 2.5 miles thick were 75k years old is contrary to ALL DATA ON ICE AGES AND GLACIERS on the planet today.

The ice cores prove glaciers 2.5 miles thick TODAY are WAY OLDER than 75k years.

So is McBullshit wrong??





and yes jc, your Youtube is Milankovich aka McBullshit

 

[westwall]

There should be some reason to believe that it took only 75k years for an ice age that started in Northern Canada to put 2.5 mile thick glacier on Chicago.

The only reason to believe that is because the Co2 FRAUD desperately will not admit the truth that


Greenland froze while North America thawed.


What does the data say about 2.5 mile thick ice age glacier??


My side, which is just me now, since all of the pre 2010 reports on North American Ice Age online have been "canceled" and replaced by McBullshit, is that North America was covered with Ice Age glacier down to Chicago and beyond for 30-50 million years.


So we have a dispute, a healthy thing for SCIENCE...

What is the EVIDENCE???


1. LIFE

Any evidence of LIFE on Chicago for the past 50 million years .... NO

Any evidence of LIFE on Greenland.... YES

Ancient Greenland Was Actually Green

Greenland was once carpeted in lush forests, a new study shows.

www.livescience.com

The DNA is proof that sometime between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago, much of Greenland was especially green and covered in a boreal forest that was home to alder, spruce and pine trees, as well as insects such as butterflies and beetle

A 2-million-year-old ecosystem in Greenland uncovered by environmental DNA - Nature

Analysis of two-million-year-old ancient environmental DNA from the Kap København Formation in North Greenland shows there was an open boreal forest with diverse plant and animal species, of which several taxa have not previously been detected at the site, representing an ecosystem that has no...

www.nature.com

So it is fair to say that the ice covering Greenland started up north in the past 2 million years, got to the middle of Greenland 400-800k years ago, and flushed out the Vikings in the 1400s on the southern tip, since when the Vikings found the Southern Tip of Greenland, they called it GREENland because it was green and were able to farm there for centuries before the Greenland ice age pushed them off...


Any evidence of life on Antarctica?

antarctic dinosaurs 70 million years ago - Google Search

This Cretaceous period dinosaur lived about 70 million years ago, towards the end of the Mesozoic Era. A bipedal, long-necked, plant-eating dinosaur (a sauropod) was discovered in the Antarctic interior by William R. Hammer and his team in late 2003.


For the record, prior to 2010 nobody disputed that Antarctic ice was at least 40 million years old. McBullshit disputes that completely...


2. Speed of ice age glacier

Indeed, the data from Greenland above is the best data we have, since it is recent and conclusive. It took Greenland's ice age somewhere between 500k years and 2 million years from its beginning at the northern part of Greenland to get to where it is now.


That is WAY SLOWER than McBullshit suggests. Ice age glacier moves at a GLACIAL speed, in Greenland's case about a mile every thousand years. By this speed, an ice age beginning in Northern Canada would not get 1/10th of the way to Chicago in 75k years.




3. size of the glacier

Greenland's ice is not yet 2 miles thick anywhere. Below the Arctic Circle, Greenland's ice is under 1 mile thick.

Hence the claim of 2.5 mile thick glacier on Chicago being 75k years old is, well, NOT SUPPORTED BY DATA POINT GREENLAND at all.

Antarctica has 2.5 mile thick glacier. There is a dispute over the age of those too. McBullshit claims it is not that old and that while sitting on the South Pole Antarctica has frozen and thawed over and over like Dennis Quaid claimed in the movie "Day After Tomorrow"



4. ice cores

antarctic ice cores years - Google Search

The oldest continuous ice core records to date extend 123,000 years in Greenland and 800,000 years in Antarctica. Ice cores contain information about past temperature, and about many other aspects of the environment


And hence it is fair to say that the 2.5 mile thick glacier on Antarctica is WAY OLDER than 75k years... to put it mildly.

Even the Greenland ice is way older than that too, and it has yet to get to 2 miles thick



5. tectonic plate movement

Reiny recently claimed Greenland is part of North America. Not on my map. But it is on the SAME TECTONIC PLATE moving on the same vector because of the angle of the fault in the North Atlantic

north atlantic ocean floor map - Bing

Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you.

www.bing.com

That fault has pushed Greenland NW and Europe SE for tens of millions of years, and hence explains why all of Europe's glaciers are melting while Greenland went into ice age. It was also pushing North America NW until NA got to its closest point to the pole, and then NA started moving SW on the SAME VECTOR on a SPHERE...

Accepting the 600 miles to the pole = your land entered an ice age

North America would have been in ice age for 30-50 million years, and would have been where Greenland is today 30-50 million years ago. The accepted date of that prior to 2010 was 50 million years...




Hence, the evidence that the glaciers on Chicago 2.5 miles thick were 75k years old is contrary to ALL DATA ON ICE AGES AND GLACIERS on the planet today.

The ice cores prove glaciers 2.5 miles thick TODAY are WAY OLDER than 75k years.

So is McBullshit wrong??





and yes jc, your Youtube is Milankovich aka McBullshit

CO2 has nothing to do with the creation of continental ice sheets.

 

[EMH]

CO2 has nothing to do with the creation of continental ice sheets.

That is the data.

Co2 does absolutely nothing = highly correlated satellite and balloon data

Greenland froze while North America thawed = how did Co2 do both at the same time?


There is no actual data that Co2 has anything at all to do with Earth temperature, only fudge.

 

[jc456]

Translation = I have beak and birdbrain. I have no understanding of tectonic plate movement, ice cores, ice age glacier speed, age of glacier ice by height, but I can parrot a Youtube video that is blown away here.... RIGHT HERE...

Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...

What is an ICE AGE? Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice...

www.usmessageboard.com

The lies of Milankovich Cycles aka McBullshit - where was land mass Antarctica 70 million years ago

McBullshit claims Antarctica has been on the South Pole forever, it never moved at all. And, while it is on the South Pole, it has rapidly gone from ice age to tropical paradise and back over and over.... a Dennis Quaid theory for sure... We know that Antarctica has 70 million year old...

www.usmessageboard.com

How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?

This is where the climate debate is now stuck. Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today. Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very...

www.usmessageboard.com

but I will insist my video is right, because I cannot debate basic science, but I can shout down and troll....

I gave you the video