Antisemitic Far-Left Muslim Congresswoman refuses to condemn the murder of two innocent Jews

I’ve noticed when subhuman Palestinians or their supporters murder American Jews in cold blood or set them on fire (as in DC last week and Colorado yesterday), antisemites like IM2 and JoeB blame JEWS for it instead of the subhuman HAMAS supporters.

Subhuman? are you sure that you aren't the ironic reincarnation of Dr. Goebbels?

I don't blame anyone for those attacks except the people who did them. Just like I don't blame the environmentalists for the Unabomber.

The point is, violence begets violence. You can't murder 53,000 people and NOT expect to tick off a few crazies.

The problem is you consider the Palestinians subhuman, but you think the lives of a few Jews are sacred.

I think all lives are sacred.

You people have spend so long hating the Nazis that you've become the Nazis.
 
True. Israel acted preemptively to save itself from destruction by Arab enemies ready to attack.

But the antisemites will blame Jews no matter what. Now they’re blaming Jews for the deranged Muslim illegal who set them on fire. They’re saying the Jews should have been armed.

So what was their excuse in 1956 when they tried to help the UK take the Suez Canal? Or when they blew up the USS Liberty? Or when they ran Rachel Corry over with a bulldozer? Or when they sent Jonathan Pollard to steal secret information?

There's always an excuse for your bad behavior.
 
True. Israel acted preemptively to save itself from destruction by Arab enemies ready to attack.

But the antisemites will blame Jews no matter what. Now they’re blaming Jews for the deranged Muslim illegal who set them on fire. They’re saying the Jews should have been armed.
Somebody should have been.. I've been to many pro Israel marches, there was always a heavy police presence there , if not I would have shot the guy myself.. we should never be complacent when it comes to Jew haters
 
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Israel has peace treaties with unelected, despotic governments.

The one time they let Egypt vote on what kind of government they should have, they elected the most radical Islamist they could find, who was promptly overthrown by the military.

And I should point all those countries have voted against Israel on resolutions regarding Gaza, as have most of Latin American, Asia, Europe, and Africa.
So has you're benefactor China.... Swalwell
 
So has you're benefactor China.... Swalwell
Correcting your ignorance on China would be a full time job.

You missed my point entirely. A bunch of despots signing meaningless agreements that Israel isn't so bad sometimes doesn't mean your average Arab hates them less.

Especially after Trump gave away the store to get those agreements.
 
Correcting your ignorance on China would be a full time job.

You missed my point entirely. A bunch of despots signing meaningless agreements that Israel isn't so bad sometimes doesn't mean your average Arab hates them less.

Especially after Trump gave away the store to get those agreements.
You're hopeful wishful thinking that the Jews are going to be driven into the sea is just that .....your Jew hating pipe dream...get lost Swalwell
 
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You're hopeful wishful thinking that the Jews are going to be driven into the sea is just that .....your Jew hating pipe dream...get lost Swalwell
Actually, pretty much inevitable.

Not the driving into the sea part, but eventually, the Apartheid regime in Israel will end for the same reason that it ended in South Africa.

The question is, will the Arabs be as accommodating as blacks were in South Africa, and how loud will the Jews whine, anyway.
 
Actually, pretty much inevitable.

Not the driving into the sea part, but eventually, the Apartheid regime in Israel will end for the same reason that it ended in South Africa.

The question is, will the Arabs be as accommodating as blacks were in South Africa, and how loud will the Jews whine, anyway.

2 million Arabs live in Israel proper and they certainly don't want to be ruled by Islamic fundamentalists you f****** moron.... Chinese Communist supporters and Jew haters just don't seem to understand that fact
 
So you come off as a mark, and you think that is someone else's fault.

Crime is a symptom, not a moral condemnation.

Maybe that person was hungry or mentally ill or struggling with addiction, but you only saw a scary black man was mean to you.
No. It's in their blood
 
Subhuman? are you sure that you aren't the ironic reincarnation of Dr. Goebbels?

I don't blame anyone for those attacks except the people who did them. Just like I don't blame the environmentalists for the Unabomber.

The point is, violence begets violence. You can't murder 53,000 people and NOT expect to tick off a few crazies.

The problem is you consider the Palestinians subhuman, but you think the lives of a few Jews are sacred.

I think all lives are sacred.

You people have spend so long hating the Nazis that you've become the Nazis.
I agree, all lives are sacred. However, that isn't the problem. What do you believe the problem is?
 
I agree, all lives are sacred. However, that isn't the problem. What do you believe the problem is?
Joey Swalwell uses casually numbers put out by a terrorist organization who shoots their own people in the back who attempt to flee .. who steal food aid then use it to keep their citizens under control , who hide behind women and children.....this guy also sides with China over his own country along his islamist sympathies because he's weak pathetic, and easily manipulated just what the Chinese are looking for weak, lonely men🙄
 
Joey Swalwell uses casually numbers put out by a terrorist organization who shoots their own people in the back who attempt to flee .. who steal food aid then use it to keep their citizens under control , who hide behind women and children.....this guy also sides with China over his own country along his islamist sympathies because he's weak pathetic, and easily manipulated just what the Chinese are looking for weak, lonely men🙄
Calling them "men" is quite a stretch.
 
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Subhuman? are you sure that you aren't the ironic reincarnation of Dr. Goebbels?

I don't blame anyone for those attacks except the people who did them. Just like I don't blame the environmentalists for the Unabomber.

The point is, violence begets violence. You can't murder 53,000 people and NOT expect to tick off a few crazies.

The problem is you consider the Palestinians subhuman, but you think the lives of a few Jews are sacred.

I think all lives are sacred.

You people have spend so long hating the Nazis that you've become the Nazis.
The Palestinians have been murdering Jews in both retail and wholesale lots since the turn of the eighteenth century. In Ottoman days, the Jews weren't even allowed to defend themselves against abuse by Muslims. "In the Ottoman Empire, Jews and Christians were considered dhimmi by the majority Muslim population. Muslims in the Ottoman Empire used the Qur'anic concept of dhimmi to place certain restrictions on Jews living in the region. For example, some of the restrictions placed on Jews in the Ottoman Empire were included, but not limited to, a special tax, a requirement to wear special clothing, and a ban on carrying guns, riding horses, building or repairing places of worship, and having public processions or public worship".
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Arabs sometimes claim that, as Semites, they cannot possibly be anti-Semitic. This, however, is a semantic distortion that ignores the reality of Arab discrimination and hostility toward Jews. Arabs, like any other people, can indeed be anti-Semitic.

The term anti-Semite was coined in Germany in 1879 by Wilhelm Marr to refer to the anti-Jewish manifestations of the period and to give Jew-hatred a more scientific-sounding name.(1) "Anti-Semitism" has been accepted and understood to mean hatred of the Jewish people.

While Jewish communities in Arab and Islamic countries fared better overall than those in Christian lands in Europe, Jews were no strangers to persecution and humiliation among the Arabs and Muslim. As Princeton University historian Bernard Lewis has written: The Golden Age of equal rights was a myth, and belief in it was a result, more than a cause, of Jewish sympathy for Islam.(2)

Muhammad, the founder of Islam, traveled to Medina in 622 A.D. to attract followers to his new faith. When the Jews of Medina refused to convert and rejected Muhammad, two of the major Jewish tribes were expelled; in 627, Muhammad's followers killed between 600 and 900 of the men, and divided the surviving Jewish women and children amongst themselves.(3)

The Muslim attitude toward Jews is reflected in various verses throughout the Koran, the holy book of the Islamic faith. They [the Children of Israel] were consigned to humiliation and wretchedness. They brought the wrath of God upon themselves, and this because they used to deny God's signs and kill His Prophets unjustly and because they disobeyed and were transgressors (Sura 2:61). According to the Koran, the Jews try to introduce corruption (5:64), have always been disobedient (5:78), and are enemies of Allah, the Prophet and the angels (2:9798).​

The Dhimmi

Still, as People of the Book, Jews (and Christians) are protected under Islamic law. The traditional concept of the dhimma (writ of protection) was extended by Muslim conquerors to Christians and Jews in exchange for their subordination to the Muslims. Peoples subjected to Muslim rule usually had a choice between death and conversion, but Jews and Christians, who adhered to the Scriptures, were allowed as dhimmis (protected persons) to practice their faith. This protection did little, however, to insure that Jews and Christians were treated well by the Muslims. On the contrary, an integral aspect of the dhimma was that, being an infidel, he had to openly acknowledge the superiority of the true believer – the Muslim.

In the early years of the Islamic conquest, the tribute (or jizya), paid as a yearly poll tax, symbolized the subordination of the dhimmi. Later, the inferior status of Jews and Christians was reinforced through a series of regulations that governed the behavior of the dhimmi. Dhimmis, on pain of death, were forbidden to mock or criticize the Koran, Islam or Muhammad, to proselytize among Muslims or to touch a Muslim woman (though a Muslim man could take a nonMuslim as a wife).

Dhimmis were excluded from public office and armed service, and were forbidden to bear arms. They were not allowed to ride horses or camels, to build synagogues or churches taller than mosques, to construct houses higher than those of Muslims or to drink wine in public. They were not allowed to pray or mourn in loud voices-as that might offend the Muslims. The dhimmi had to show public deference toward Muslims-always yielding them the center of the road. The dhimmi was not allowed to give evidence in court against a Muslim, and his oath was unacceptable in an Islamic court. To defend himself, the dhimmi would have to purchase Muslim witnesses at great expense. This left the dhimmi with little legal recourse when harmed by a Muslim.(4)

Dhimmis were also forced to wear distinctive clothing. In the ninth century, for example, Baghdad’s Caliph al-Mutawakkil designated a yellow badge for Jews, setting a precedent that would be followed centuries later in Nazi Germany.(5)

Violence Against Jews

At various times, Jews in Muslim lands were able to live in relative peace and thrive culturally and economically. The position of the Jews was never secure, however, and changes in the political or social climate would often lead to persecution, violence and death. Jews were generally viewed with contempt by their Muslim neighbors; peaceful coexistence between the two groups involved the subordination and degradation of the Jews.

When Jews were perceived as having achieved too comfortable a position in Islamic society, anti-Semitism would surface, often with devastating results: On December 30, 1066, Joseph HaNagid, the Jewish vizier of Granada, Spain, was crucified by an Arab mob that proceeded to raze the Jewish quarter of the city and slaughter its 5,000 inhabitants. The riot was incited by Muslim preachers who had angrily objected to what they saw as inordinate Jewish political power.

Similarly, in 1465, Arab mobs in Fez slaughtered thousands of Jews, leaving only 11 alive, after a Jewish deputy vizier treated a Muslim woman in an offensive manner. The killings touched off a wave of similar massacres throughout Morocco.(6)

Other mass murders of Jews in Arab lands occurred in Morocco in the 8th century, where whole communities were wiped out by Muslim ruler Idris I; North Africa in the 12th century, where the Almohads either forcibly converted or decimated several communities; Libya in 1785, where Ali Burzi Pasha murdered hundreds of Jews; Algiers, where Jews were massacred in 1805, 1815 and 1830 and Marrakesh, Morocco, where more than 300 hundred Jews were murdered between 1864 and 1880.(7)

Decrees ordering the destruction of synagogues were enacted in Egypt and Syria (1014, 1293-4, 1301-2), Iraq (854-859, 1344) and Yemen (1676). Despite the Koran's prohibition, Jews were forced to convert to Islam or face death in Yemen (1165 and 1678), Morocco (1275, 1465 and 1790-92) and Baghdad (1333 and 1344).(8)

As distinguished Orientalist G.E. von Grunebaum has written:​

It would not be difficult to put together the names of a very sizeable number of Jewish subjects or citizens of the Islamic area who have attained to high rank, to power, to great financial influence, to significant and recognized intellectual attainment; and the same could be done for Christians. But it would again not be difficult to compile a lengthy list of persecutions, arbitrary confiscations, attempted forced conversions, or pogroms.(9)
The situation of Jews in Arab lands reached a low point in the 19th century. Jews in most of North Africa (including Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and Morocco) were forced to live in ghettos. In Morocco, which contained the largest Jewish community in the Islamic Diaspora, Jews were made to walk barefoot or wear shoes of straw when outside the ghetto. Even Muslim children participated in the degradation of Jews, by throwing stones at them or harassing them in other ways. The frequency of anti-Jewish violence increased, and many Jews were executed on charges of apostasy. Ritual murder accusations against the Jews became commonplace in the Ottoman Empire.(10)

By the twentieth century, the status of the dhimmi in Muslim lands had not significantly improved. H.E.W. Young, British Vice Consul in Mosul, wrote in 1909:​

The attitude of the Muslims toward the Christians and the Jews is that of a master towards slaves, whom he treats with a certain lordly tolerance so long as they keep their place. Any sign of pretension to equality is promptly repressed.(11)
The danger for Jews became even greater as a showdown approached in the UN over partition in 1947. The Syrian delegate, Faris el-Khouri, warned: Unless the Palestine problem is settled, we shall have difficulty in protecting and safeguarding the Jews in the Arab world.(12)

More than a thousand Jews were killed in anti-Jewish rioting during the 1940s in Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Syria, and Yemen.(13) This helped trigger the mass exodus of Jews from Arab countries."​


Jews were third or even fourth-class residents of the Middle East.
 
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oh, was that it? Then why did they try to sink the USS Liberty?
Fog of war. You claim to be a veteran, you should know how often the chain of command screws things up with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, let alone what the commander is thinking.
 
2 million Arabs live in Israel proper and they certainly don't want to be ruled by Islamic fundamentalists you f****** moron....

Then give all Arabs a vote and let them elect any party they want. Let's see what the result is. Require Likud and Labor to include them in coalitions.

Chinese Communist supporters and Jew haters just don't seem to understand that fact
Yawn, your argument is weak, buddy. You know you guys are in the wrong.

Joey Swalwell uses casually numbers put out by a terrorist organization who shoots their own people in the back who attempt to flee .. who steal food aid then use it to keep their citizens under control , who hide behind women and children.....

Well, I haven't seen any numbers that anyone else has put out that are credible.

this guy also sides with China over his own country along his islamist sympathies because he's weak pathetic, and easily manipulated just what the Chinese are looking for weak, lonely men
Trump isn't "My country". I served while he avoided the draft.

Because he has a beef with China or Harvard doesn't mean I have to.
 
Fog of war. You claim to be a veteran, you should know how often the chain of command screws things up with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, let alone what the commander is thinking.

I'm pretty sure I've never bombed something that was 400 foot long and clearly marked as an allied ship. I'm positive I didn't do this three times.

I used to stick up for the Zionists on the LIberty, until I started learning the facts.

The Palestinians have been murdering Jews in both retail and wholesale lots since the turn of the eighteenth century. In Ottoman days, the Jews weren't even allowed to defend themselves against abuse by Muslims. "In the Ottoman Empire, Jews and Christians were considered dhimmi by the majority Muslim population. Muslims in the Ottoman Empire used the Qur'anic concept of dhimmi to place certain restrictions on Jews living in the region. For example, some of the restrictions placed on Jews in the Ottoman Empire were included, but not limited to, a special tax, a requirement to wear special clothing, and a ban on carrying guns, riding horses, building or repairing places of worship, and having public processions or public worship".

Okay, reality check. Jews were treated a lot better in the Ottoman Empire than they were in Europe. It's why so many fled there before 1948.
 
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