Antisemitic Far-Left Muslim Congresswoman refuses to condemn the murder of two innocent Jews

[Rigby5]

Hamas chooses NEVER to break the cycle of war. This is on them, and we saw it from the very moment Gaza was handed over to the Arabs who now live in Gaza .

Wrong.
Hamas was forced to retaliate against the starvation blockade.

The violence was entirely started by the Zionists, going back to when Menachim Begin blew up the British peacekeepers in the King David Hotel, gunned down Folke Bernadotte, and started wiping out hundreds of native villages like Deir Yassin.

 

[Rigby5]

Actually Abraham is from Ur, Mesopotamia/Sumer. A bit distant from the Sinai. And he made his pact with YHWH about 2000 BC.
The real story involves feuding factions of the Anunnaki, Canaan being on the side opposite of Abraham's, but that's too involved a story for here.

BTW, massacre of defeated side was SOP in warfare back then. Exception being that the defeated might become slaves instead of be slaughtered.
Also, Sinai is part of the Middle East. Refresh on your geography.

Amusing you know the mind of YHWH.

Quran contradicts itself in many places. It's not organized chronologically. Message to Mohammad started out they should be pacifist, non violent. Later allowed to to fight in defense. Final instructions from Allah were to conquer and convert the whole planet, all of humanity.

While all Mideast civilizations likely come from the Sumerians, the Hebrew likely were nomadic sheep herders.
And for them to have had to go to Egypt due to a drought, they could not have been near the Jordan River, and had to have been near Egypt.
That makes the Sinai most likely, since that is also where they went first, after leaving Egypt.

And NO, it was not at all normal or common to massacre women and children.
The Hebrew were defeated by the Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Seleucids, and Romans, and never once massacred.

The Sinai is part of the Mideast, but the Zionists in Israel are mostly from Poland and Russia, which is not part of the Mideast.

I know the mind of god well enough when it comes to fairness and ethics.
Fairness and ethics are in our DNA, and intrinsic to all of us.
And it would be incredibly unfair and unethical for a god to have a Chosen People, or to favor one ground over another in any way.

There is nothing in the Quran that remotely justifies invasion or conquest in any way.
The closest it gets is that it says that if you have tried twice to make treaties and been betrayed twice, then give up and destroy them.
Not once did Mohammed ever invade anywhere.
All he did was to liberate areas under the illegal oppression of the Byzantines.

 

[Rigby5]

I have to give you credit for having a more rational retort than J'Roids or Karen558.

That said, Lancet measured excess deaths in Iraq from all causes.

The UN puts the number at 34,000 as of February .

UN Halves Its Estimate of Women and Children Killed in Gaza | Council on Foreign Relations

Between May 6 and May 8, the UN cut in half its estimates of the number of women and children killed in Gaza. The estimates were based on Hamas numbers and are a reminder that all fatality estimates coming from that source are unreliable.

www.cfr.org

The international Red Cross puts the number close to 95,000

International Red Cross Chief Says Gaza Conditions 'Worse' Than 'Hell on Earth' | Common Dreams

The president of the Red Cross condemns Israel's assault on Gaza, calling it a violation of human dignity. The situation worsens as aid sites are attacked, leaving many dead.

www.commondreams.org

I would go with the Lancet figures of over half a million murdered by Shock and Awe because we deliberately cut utilities in a desert, causing massive health problems, and disease by forcing people to drink swamp water.
Unlike any other war, we deliberately targeted civilians.

 

[Rigby5]

Fact is , the term "Islam" means "To Submit". It is a 7th Century Death cult started by a Pedophile Warlord. Now theologically speaking , the "Evil One" ,personalized as "The Devil" or Satan , is a trickster who will do anything to lure people into Hell. What better way than Tempting them with "Paradise"? In short ,Mohammed was the Anti-Christ and "Allah" is Satan. And Democracy and Islam are diametrically opposed.

Nonsense.
Mohammed is well documented as a merchant, and had no fighting history.
When he converted to Judaism, the Meccans attacked him and forced him to flee to Medina, where he was defended by the 12 Jewish tribes there.
It as the Jewish tribes who did his fighting and defeated the Meccans, converting all of the Arabian Peninsula to Islam.
Allah is just the translation of the word 'god' into Arabic.
It is not a name.

Democracy is system of government based on voting, and Islam is a set of ethical principles, so they have nothing at all to do with each other.

The closest they come to interacting is that Islam supports some social services, like for widows and orphans.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Wrong.
Hamas was forced to retaliate against the starvation blockade.

The violence was entirely started by the Zionists, going back to when Menachim Begin blew up the British peacekeepers in the King David Hotel, gunned down Folke Bernadotte, and started wiping out hundreds of native villages like Deir Yassin.

There was never a starvation blockade. Ships just had to clear customs and be searched for weapons before being allowed to dock in Gaza. The land accesses from Egypt were never blocked, goods flowed into Gaza that way. The only blockade was by Egypt not allowing Palestinians into Egypt. The Gazans brought that on themselves by their constant attacks on Israeli civilians with everything from rocks to bombardment rockets. Until after 10/7 Israel was supplying Gaza with free water power and medical care despite the constant acts of terrorism by Gazans of all ages and both sexes.

 

[Yarddog]

Wrong.
Hamas was forced to retaliate against the starvation blockade.

The violence was entirely started by the Zionists, going back to when Menachim Begin blew up the British peacekeepers in the King David Hotel, gunned down Folke Bernadotte, and started wiping out hundreds of native villages like Deir Yassin.

BULLSHIT! they were given greehouses to grow food and they tore them apart. Greenhouses that belonged to the Israeli settlers who were forced to leave by thei rown government. It was a pivitol moment and HAmas showed their true colors.

 

[toobfreak]

Hamas was forced to retaliate against the starvation blockade.

Why do you lie to protect a terror organization? Hamas has no business being there. They are not acting in their defense as they are the attackers, so they are not "forced" to do anything. They do not fight for the Palestinians, they only fight for themselves out of absolute hatred towards the Jews.

 

[Soupnazi630]

I would go with the Lancet figures of over half a million murdered by Shock and Awe because we deliberately cut utilities in a desert, causing massive health problems, and disease by forcing people to drink swamp water.
Unlike any other war, we deliberately targeted civilians.

We did not deliberately target civilians.

There was no swamp water to drink anywhere we bombed and you are a ******* liar

 

[Lisa558]

Why do you lie to protect a terror organization? Hamas has no business being there. They are not acting in their defense as they are the attackers, so they are not "forced" to do anything. They do not fight for the Palestinians, they only fight for themselves out of absolute hatred towards the Jews.

And the irony is that Rigby is on the other thread, crying about were being unfair to the illegal alien family of the Islamic terrorist who just tried to burn to death a dozen Jews by deporting them.

 

[Lisa558]

We did not deliberately target civilians.

There was no swamp water to drink anywhere we bombed and you are a ******* liar

This is what the HAMAS propagandists do: spread lies about Jews in order to drive more antisemitism.

The FACT is that - despite the Islamic terrorists’ efforts to increase the civilian death count - that Israel has maintained one of the lowest civilian-to-combatant ratios seen in war.

 

[JoeB131]

And the irony is that Rigby is on the other thread, crying about were being unfair to the illegal alien family of the Islamic terrorist who just tried to burn to death a dozen Jews by deporting them.

Well, the whole family didn't try to burn those people to death, just one mentally unstable guy.

Should the family have gotten him help if he was starting to unravel? Maybe.

But we don't punish families for what one member does.

 

[JoeB131]

This is what the HAMAS propagandists do: spread lies about Jews in order to drive more antisemitism.

The FACT is that - despite the Islamic terrorists’ efforts to increase the civilian death count - that Israel has maintained one of the lowest civilian-to-combatant ratios seen in war.

They've killed 3% of the population of Gaza, that's hardly a low body count.

Of course, you Zionists claim that ANY Palestinian is a combantant, and you show pictures of cosplaying kids to prove your point.

So your protestation mean next to nothing.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Well, the whole family didn't try to burn those people to death, just one mentally unstable guy.

Should the family have gotten him help if he was starting to unravel? Maybe.

But we don't punish families for what one member does.

Deporting people with expired visas is not punishing them.

 

[JoeB131]

Deporting people with expired visas is not punishing them.

Sure it is if you are signalling them out.

There are 510,000 immigrants with suspected overstays on their visas. The government is in no hurry to round them all up and throw them out.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Sure it is if you are signalling them out.

There are 510,000 immigrants with suspected overstays on their visas. The government is in no hurry to round them all up and throw them out.

Anybody you pick will claim to be singled out. The only practical way to find visa overstayers is when they come into contact with authority for some infraction or crime.

 

[JoeB131]

Anybody you pick will claim to be singled out. The only practical way to find visa overstayers is when they come into contact with authority for some infraction or crime.

Or you just follow the law, and don't single anyone out.

Perhaps adequately staff the asylum courts to determine who really qualifies.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Or you just follow the law, and don't single anyone out.

Perhaps adequately staff the asylum courts to determine who really qualifies.

How do you expel a visa-overstayer if you can't single them out?

 

[JoeB131]

How do you expel a visa-overstayer if you can't single them out?

YOu go through the process, you don't move someone to the head of the line because a relative broke the law.

 

[AZrailwhale]

YOu go through the process, you don't move someone to the head of the line because a relative broke the law.

Wrong. You expell them anytime you can find them. Or do you expect the INS to go door to door in every city and neighborhood in the USA?

 

[Lisa558]

Wrong. You expell them anytime you can find them. Or do you expect the INS to go door to door in every city and neighborhood in the USA?

Joel epitomizes what is wrong with radical leftists: he screams for American Jews to go back to Israel - and defends a family defends illegal Muslim antisemites whose father tried to burn alive 12 elderly Jews.

This is what American Jews are dealing with.