Antarctica has grown ice for more than 2.7 million years, disproving "interglacials" completely

[Anomalism]

There is no warming going on in fact its colder

You apparently don't understand the situation beyond what's outside your window.

 

[Hafar1014]

You apparently don't understand the situation beyond what's outside your window.

Whats outside my window is called empirical evidence

 

[Anomalism]

Whats outside my window is called empirical evidence

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Okay bud.

 

[Hafar1014]

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Okay bud.

Renewable energy is dead, no one cares about climate change, we are now building nuclear and fossil fuel sources, greenhouse gass control by the EPA has been ended, The era of climate change fear is over and Trump killed it

 

[Anomalism]

Renewable energy is dead, no one cares about climate change, we are now building nuclear and fossil fuel sources, greenhouse gass control by the EPA has been ended, The era of climate change fear is over and Trump killed it

You should do a victory lap. Well done.

 

[Hafar1014]

You should do a victory lap. Well done.

We will all be better off as many costs will now come down

 

[Anomalism]

We will all be better off as many costs will now come down

Right.

None of that changes physics though, that thing you don't understand.

 

[Hafar1014]

Right.

None of that changes physics though, that thing you don't understand.

Fake science isnt reality

 

[Anomalism]

Fake science isnt reality

It's not fake just because you don't understand it.

 

[EMH]

Satellites, radiosondes, and surface instruments all show tropospheric warming;

FUDGED satellite and balloon data show "warming" that DID NOT EXIST in the ACTUAL DATA.

ocean heat content from Argo floats shows massive

which, if true, would result in a massive increase in cane activity, but that isn't happening...

The physics isn’t hypothetical.

Now it is "the physics." Pretty funny.

Physics states that

warming oceans produce more and bigger hurricanes - not happening
net ongoing ice melt would raise ocean levels and surface air pressure - not happening
warming the atmosphere would increase surface air pressure - not happening


and that's why Physics is now "the physics" for CO2 FRAUD....

 

[EMH]

It's not fake just because you don't understand it.

Can you show us a photo documenting ocean rise?

And if you can't why can't you....

 

[EMH]

The era of climate change fear is over and Trump killed it

It needs to be prosecuted and ruled a fraud in court. That should have happened in 2007, but Mukasey and every AG since have covered up for Alliance for Treason. The case is there.

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The Left is never going to accept "because Trump said so."

 

[Anomalism]

FUDGED satellite and balloon data show "warming" that DID NOT EXIST in the ACTUAL DATA.





which, if true, would result in a massive increase in cane activity, but that isn't happening...







Now it is "the physics." Pretty funny.

Physics states that

warming oceans produce more and bigger hurricanes - not happening
net ongoing ice melt would raise ocean levels and surface air pressure - not happening
warming the atmosphere would increase surface air pressure - not happening


and that's why Physics is now "the physics" for CO2 FRAUD....

You’re stacking misunderstandings on top of each other and calling it physics.

First...
Raw radiances are not temperatures. Satellites measure microwave/IR intensity, not air temperature directly. Converting radiance into temperature requires calibration for orbital decay, sensor drift, and viewing geometry. That’s not fudging, it’s literally how radiometry works in every field, including astronomy, medical imaging, and remote sensing.

Second: ocean heat content vs hurricanes.
There is no physical law that says “more ocean heat = more hurricanes”. Hurricanes require specific atmospheric conditions: wind shear, humidity profiles, pressure patterns, and ocean stratification. You can increase total ocean heat content without increasing hurricane frequency.

Third: sea level and air pressure.
Sea level rise is directly measured by satellite altimetry and tide gauges and is about 3-4 mm per year. That is not supposed to cause a noticeable change in surface air pressure. Air pressure depends on the total mass of the atmosphere.

Fourth: “warming atmosphere increases surface air pressure”.
This is just wrong. Warmer air expands and becomes less dense. Heating air tends to lower surface pressure locally, not raise it. That’s literally why low-pressure systems exist.

Fifth: UV vs IR energy.
You’re confusing photon energy with climate forcing. Yes, a UV photon carries more energy than an IR photon. But almost all UV is absorbed in the stratosphere by ozone, not in the troposphere or ocean. That energy does not participate in surface warming.

Climate forcing depends on where energy is deposited and how long it stays there, not how energetic one photon is. IR absorbed by CO2 is deposited exactly where it matters: the lower atmosphere, and it is repeatedly re-emitted and trapped. That’s radiative transfer, not “weaker EM”.

Sixth: “no warming in oceans = no more hurricanes”.
This is circular logic. You’re using hurricanes as your thermometer and then claiming the thermometer disproves the thermometer. Ocean heat content is measured directly by Argo floats down to 2000 meters. Hurricanes are weather; ocean heat content is thermodynamics.

Seventh: models always show warming.
False. Climate models show cooling when you remove greenhouse forcing. They reproduce ice ages, volcanic cooling, and orbital cycles. They only show persistent warming when greenhouse gases increase, because that’s what radiative transfer equations predict.

You are rejecting direct measurements, misunderstanding how instruments work, misapplying fluid dynamics, and inventing physical laws that don’t exist.

 

[EMH]

This guy is really a giant waste of time...

There is no physical law that says “more ocean heat = more hurricanes”.

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Yes, warming oceans are directly linked to more intense, destructive, and potentially larger hurricanes. As oceans absorb over 90% of global warming heat, higher sea surface temperatures provide more energy, enabling storms to develop stronger winds, hold more water for heavier rainfall, and cause more severe coastal flooding.

 

[Anomalism]

Can you show us a photo documenting ocean rise?

And if you can't why can't you....

Sea level rise isn’t documented with a single before/after photo any more than gravity is documented with a selfie of an apple falling.
Sea level is measured with satellite altimetry and tide gauges distributed globally.

Those instruments directly measure the height of the ocean relative to Earth’s center of mass and coastal reference points. They produce continuous time series, not anecdotes.

A photograph can’t establish global sea level because...
The ocean moves (tides, waves, storms, currents).
Land moves (subsidence, uplift, erosion).
A photo has no absolute vertical reference frame.

So if your standard of evidence is “I need a picture I personally find intuitive,” you’re not doing science; you’re doing vibes. And the universe does not care about vibes.

 

[EMH]

Sea level rise isn’t documented with a single before/after photo any more than gravity is documented with a selfie of an apple falling.
Sea level is measured with satellite altimetry and tide gauges distributed globally.

Those instruments directly measure the height of the ocean relative to Earth’s center of mass and coastal reference points. They produce continuous time series, not anecdotes.

A photograph can’t establish global sea level because...
The ocean moves (tides, waves, storms, currents).
Land moves (subsidence, uplift, erosion).
A photo has no absolute vertical reference frame.

So if your standard of evidence is “I need a picture I personally find intuitive,” you’re not doing science; you’re doing vibes. And the universe does not care about vibes.

The message is "believe the FUDGE, not your own eyes."


There is NO OCEAN RISE because there is NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT...

 

[Anomalism]

This guy is really a giant waste of time...








Goog AI

Yes, warming oceans are directly linked to more intense, destructive, and potentially larger hurricanes. As oceans absorb over 90% of global warming heat, higher sea surface temperatures provide more energy, enabling storms to develop stronger winds, hold more water for heavier rainfall, and cause more severe coastal flooding.

You’re mixing up climate statistics with individual weather events. There is no physical law that says “more ocean heat = more hurricanes every year.”

The actual physics says...

Warmer oceans increase the available energy for tropical cyclones.

That raises the upper bound on storm intensity and rainfall.

It shifts the probability distribution, not the yearly count.

So the correct claim is:

Warming oceans make strong storms more likely and stronger on average, not guaranteed every season.

Hurricane frequency depends on wind shear, atmospheric stability, dust, El Nino/La Nina, etc. Those can suppress storms even in a warmer world.

This is basic fluid dynamics + thermodynamics:
warmer water > higher enthalpy flux > lower central pressure > stronger potential storms.

But the system is chaotic, so you don’t get monotonic yearly trends.

Demanding more hurricanes every year or it’s fake is like demanding stock markets go up every day if the economy is growing.

That’s not how stochastic systems work.

You’re confusing trend in a distribution with guaranteed outcomes in single realizations. That’s a statistics error.

 

[Anomalism]

The message is "believe the FUDGE, not your own eyes."


There is NO OCEAN RISE because there is NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT...

“Believe the fudge, not your own eyes” only works if your eyes are actually capable of measuring the thing in question. They aren’t. Sea level rise is on the order of 3-4 millimeters per year, far smaller than tides, waves, storms, erosion, land subsidence, or seasonal variation. A couple of photos taken a century apart have zero resolving power for detecting a global, millimeter-scale trend in a chaotic fluid system with a moving land surface.

Are you also going to deny continental drift because your house didn’t move? If your standard of evidence is “I must be able to visually perceive it with my own eyes,” then you also have to reject GPS, plate tectonics, atomic clocks, and basically all modern measurement. Reality doesn’t scale itself to human intuition. Instruments exist precisely because our senses are terrible at precision.

 

[EMH]

It shifts the probability distribution, not the yearly count.

This is the CO2 FRAUD's new talking point. Immediately after lying about the cane that hit Jamaica...


not more storms because more ocean surface is greater than 80F, oh no, that wouldn't cause more canes - LOL!!!

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In reality, they are lying about the strength of the canes, "fudging canes..."

Thread 'Was Melissa really a Cat 5 or a Cat 1 hoax?'

Oct 29, 2025

Show me where it looks like a Cat 5 hit...

jamaica photos - Google Search

Those photos all look like a Cat 1 max.

jamaica photos - Bing

Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you.

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Like "ocean rise," the question now is

CAN YOU SHOW US A PHOTO of "CAT 5 DAMAGE" on Jamaica, because that's not what the photos show as of now....

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[Anomalism]

This is the CO2 FRAUD's new talking point. Immediately after lying about the cane that hit Jamaica...


not more storms because more ocean surface is greater than 80F, oh no, that wouldn't cause more canes - LOL!!!

Google Search

In reality, they are lying about the strength of the canes, "fudging canes..."

Thread 'Was Melissa really a Cat 5 or a Cat 1 hoax?'

Oct 29, 2025

Show me where it looks like a Cat 5 hit...

jamaica photos - Google Search

Those photos all look like a Cat 1 max.

jamaica photos - Bing

Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you.

www.bing.com

Like "ocean rise," the question now is

CAN YOU SHOW US A PHOTO of "CAT 5 DAMAGE" on Jamaica, because that's not what the photos show as of now....

• EMH
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You’re conflating intensity and frequency with chaos and averages. Warming oceans don’t automatically produce more storms in a given year; they shift the probability distribution so extreme storms become more likely and more intense when conditions allow. That’s observed in hurricane energy and rainfall metrics, not just raw counts. Claiming fudged canes ignores the physics.