Another young woman falls victim to GOP abortion laws. RIP

[DukeU]

Heard of the heartbeat bill? Once a heart beat is detected, abortions are completely banned from being performed in texas.

Good.

 

[krichton]

Good.

Go ahead and tell that to the parents and the husband of the woman who just died because her fetus still had a heartbeat even though it wasn't viable.

 

[Arlette]

So they think that's what would have happened under the law as written?? Show me.

Nobody is looking forward to defend themselves in court, not even over a BS charge.

 

[JoeB131]

So, this seems to be a common twisting of facts by liberals. This woman didn't just have a miscarriage as it seems they are trying to make this out to be. This was a botched abortion by either the woman who died or someone who gave her whatever to abort the baby. So, if the woman would have given birth instead of killing her child, she would still be alive today.

Do you actually have proof this was a botched abortion, or are you just lying like a Mormon?

 

[Cougarbear]

Do you actually have proof this was a botched abortion, or are you just lying like a Mormon?

She was pregnant and the article said she attempted an abortion. Why else would this be an abortion issue if this weren't true? Women have died giving birth forever. It happens. This is clearly a late term abortion gone bad. Never should have been done but she did it herself and then came to the hospital. But, it was either too late or the doctors screwed up because they feared for their licenses because of the crazy abortion right nonsense.

 

[JoeB131]

She was pregnant and the article said she attempted an abortion. Why else would this be an abortion issue if this weren't true? Women have died giving birth forever. It happens. This is clearly a late term abortion gone bad. Never should have been done but she did it herself and then came to the hospital. But, it was either too late or the doctors screwed up because they feared for their licenses because of the crazy abortion right nonsense.

Read the fucking article, you Mormon Twat.

Texas woman died after being denied miscarriage care due to abortion ban, report finds

Josseli Barnica died days state passed six-week abortion ban and doctors delayed treatment, ProPublica reports

www.theguardian.com

Barnica went to the hospital with cramps when she was just over 17 weeks pregnant on 2 September 2021, the day after the Texas six-week abortion ban took effect, according to ProPublica. (Texas enacted the ban almost a year before Roe was overturned; it now bans abortion from conception.) When her bleeding worsened the following day, Barnica returned to the hospital, where a doctor concluded that a miscarriage was “in progress”. Another soon concluded that a miscarriage was “inevitable”.

Barnica’s cervix was dilated at nearly 9cm, a condition that left her vulnerable to fast-acting infections, ProPublica reported. Normally, in cases like Barnica’s doctors will offer medication to speed up labor or perform a procedure to empty the uterus.

But Barnica’s fetus still had a heartbeat. And under the Texas ban, doctors could not intervene unless a “medical emergency” – a term that was not defined in the law – developed.

Within days, she was back at the hospital, where she died of sepsis involving “products of conception”, according to her autopsy report. Her widowed husband is now raising their four-year-old daughter, ProPublica reported.

 

[Grumblenuts]

She was pregnant and the article said she attempted an abortion.

Quote where the article says she attempted an abortion.

 

[Cougarbear]

Read the fucking article, you Mormon Twat.

Texas woman died after being denied miscarriage care due to abortion ban, report finds

Josseli Barnica died days state passed six-week abortion ban and doctors delayed treatment, ProPublica reports

www.theguardian.com

Barnica went to the hospital with cramps when she was just over 17 weeks pregnant on 2 September 2021, the day after the Texas six-week abortion ban took effect, according to ProPublica. (Texas enacted the ban almost a year before Roe was overturned; it now bans abortion from conception.) When her bleeding worsened the following day, Barnica returned to the hospital, where a doctor concluded that a miscarriage was “in progress”. Another soon concluded that a miscarriage was “inevitable”.

Barnica’s cervix was dilated at nearly 9cm, a condition that left her vulnerable to fast-acting infections, ProPublica reported. Normally, in cases like Barnica’s doctors will offer medication to speed up labor or perform a procedure to empty the uterus.

But Barnica’s fetus still had a heartbeat. And under the Texas ban, doctors could not intervene unless a “medical emergency” – a term that was not defined in the law – developed.

Within days, she was back at the hospital, where she died of sepsis involving “products of conception”, according to her autopsy report. Her widowed husband is now raising their four-year-old daughter, ProPublica reported.

The situation had nothing to do with the law. The law said medical emergency and if the mother was in danger. So, this had nothing to do with the law or religion. This had to do with only bad judgment of the doctors. You atheist twit.

 

[JoeB131]

The situation had nothing to do with the law. The law said medical emergency and if the mother was in danger. So, this had nothing to do with the law or religion. This had to do with only bad judgment of the doctors. You atheist twit.

You do realize that without this law and it's ambiguities, the doctors never would have hesitated, right?

Clearly, someone in that hospital thought that "If we perform this abortion, we can be charged with murder!" So instead of just performing the abortion like a sensible person would, they waited for the fetus to die on it's own, by which time the woman was also doomed.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The situation had nothing to do with the law. The law said medical emergency and if the mother was in danger. So, this had nothing to do with the law or religion. This had to do with only bad judgment of the doctors. You atheist twit.

The law is badly drafted in order to create confusion and prevent doctors from giving treatment.
This iss GOP America.

 

[SweetSue92]

The law is badly drafted in order to create confusion and prevent doctors from giving treatment.
This iss GOP America.

It was medical malpractice. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

It was medical malpractice. Nothing more, nothing less.

You want to think that because it enables you to shift guilt. We all know the GOP killed her.

 

[HeyNorm]

Of course they do

And they know saving the woman's life is within the law

They are only feigning ignorance

Can you imagine the court case. The defense argues that “emergency” is not defined in the law.

The prosecution brings up a series of doctors and asks them if they ever performed emergency procedures to save the lives of their patients. One after the next state they have.

The argument over the definition dies there.

 

[HeyNorm]

The lawyers are stopping them.

Not hardly.


Yes, we did now.

So you’re accusing lawyers of practicing medicine without a license?

Do tell.

 

[HeyNorm]

Why though?

It is hers more than anyone else's, it's dependent on her for its existence, it's part of her body.

Well property laws originated centuries before the USA existed and those laws were enacted to protect the wealthy.

Are you? I don't see that.

Man, you are the king of deflection. The question wasn’t how old the law was, but why have them in the first place.

 

[Mac-7]

Can you imagine the court case. The defense argues that “emergency” is not defined in the law.

The prosecution brings up a series of doctors and asks them if they ever performed emergency procedures to save the lives of their patients. One after the next state they have.

The argument over the definition dies there.

Dems will judge shop and take it up the line toward the supreme court

 

[JoeB131]

It was medical malpractice. Nothing more, nothing less.

Malpractice that happened because the doctors were trying to comply with a terrible law, Islamophobic Twat.

 

[Lesh]

Malpractice that happened because the doctors were trying to comply with a terrible law, Islamophobic Twat.

And they want this shit in every state

Interesting point. These laws were never put on a ballot.

Right wing state legislatures passed them

Even NY has had right wing legislatures and Republican Governors

If we are not careful it could happen anywhere… not just red states

 

[Lesh]

You do realize that without this law and it's ambiguities, the doctors never would have hesitated, right?

Clearly, someone in that hospital thought that "If we perform this abortion, we can be charged with murder!" So instead of just performing the abortion like a sensible person would, they waited for the fetus to die on it's own, by which time the woman was also doomed.

How many women have to die before we fix this mess.

It starts tomorrow.

Vote these freaks out of office

Dog catcher to the White House

 

[Cougarbear]

You do realize that without this law and it's ambiguities, the doctors never would have hesitated, right?

Clearly, someone in that hospital thought that "If we perform this abortion, we can be charged with murder!" So instead of just performing the abortion like a sensible person would, they waited for the fetus to die on it's own, by which time the woman was also doomed.

You are making assumptions not based on facts. Here’s a fact. People die in hospitals all the time from various diseases and illnesses because of misdiagnosis and human error. Science is not settled and never will be. That’s why they call a doctor’s business, “A Practice.” Same with laws. The 1st and 2nd amendments are plainly written. But Atheists and Democrats can’t read them without interjecting their own sick beliefs into them.