Another young woman falls victim to GOP abortion laws. RIP

[martybegan]

Yes I am sure you think thats what it is.

It's what it looks like to me, and anyone else not an abortion zealot.

 

[Zincwarrior]

It's what it looks like to me, and anyone else not an abortion zealot.

Yes thats what it looks like to an anti-abortion zealot. I understand.

 

[martybegan]

Yes thats what it looks like to an anti-abortion zealot. I understand.

I have a feeling self reflection isn't your strong suit.

Another AWFL?

 

[Zincwarrior]

I have a feeling self reflection isn't your strong suit.

I don't reflect in a mirror.

I understand your position, I just disagree with it for purposes of government intrusion.

 

[DStar777]

Yes thats what it looks like to an anti-abortion zealot. I understand

Then take it from someone who ISN'T an anti-abortion zealot (I'm not). I'm confused. What isn't clear in the law as written? This article ( A pregnant teenager died after trying to get care in three visits to Texas emergency rooms ), which you posted, says the following:

Texas’s abortion ban threatens prison time for interventions that end a fetal heartbeat, whether the pregnancy is wanted or not. It includes exceptions for life-threatening conditions, but still, doctors told ProPublica that confusion and fear about the potential legal repercussions are changing the way their colleagues treat pregnant patients with complications.

.. and here, from the law itself ( https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/billtext/pdf/SB00008F.pdf ) , is the exception to the ban:

Sec. 171.205. EXCEPTION FOR MEDICAL EMERGENCY; RECORDS. (a) Sections 171.203 and 171.204 do not apply if a physician believes a medical emergency exists that prevents compliance withthis subchapter.(b) A physician who performs or induces an abortion under circumstances described by Subsection (a) shall make written notations in the pregnant woman ’s medical record of: (1) the physician’s belief that a medical emergency necessitated the abortion; and (2) the medical condition of the pregnant woman that prevented compliance with this subchapter.

Why isn't this clear enough?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Then take it from someone who ISN'T an anti-abortion zealot (I'm not). I'm confused. What isn't clear in the law as written? This article ( A pregnant teenager died after trying to get care in three visits to Texas emergency rooms ), which you posted, says the following:

.. and here, from the law itself ( https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/billtext/pdf/SB00008F.pdf ) , is the exception to the ban:

Why isn't this clear enough?

This is a fair question. Paxton has threatened them. From said article:

A pregnant teenager died after trying to get care in three visits to Texas emergency rooms

It took 20 hours and three ER visits before doctors admitted the pregnant 18-year-old to the hospital as her condition worsened. She’s one of at least two women who died under Texas’ abortion ban.

www.texastribune.org

He has also made clear that he will bring charges against physicians for performing abortions if he decides that the cases don’t fall within Texas’ narrow medical exceptions.

Last year, he sent a letter threatening to prosecute a doctor who had received court approval to provide an emergency abortion for a Dallas woman. He insisted that the doctor and her patient had not proven how, precisely, the patient’s condition threatened her life.

Many doctors say this kind of message has encouraged doctors to “punt” patients instead of treating them.

Since the abortion bans went into effect, an OB-GYN at a major hospital in San Antonio has seen an uptick in pregnant patients being sent to them from across Southern Texas, as they suffer from complications that could easily be treated close to home.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Perhaps if you actually read the law, which I cited and linked to, you would understand it's quite clear in protecting the life of the mother. But your abortion zealotry clouds any rational thought or reasoning.

Nobody trusts these maniacs when they leave the law open to misinterpretation. With good reason.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I said nothing of the sort.

Voting Republican is a hazard to your health.

 

[westwall]

Such is the right's contempt for women.

Whereas the left forces young women to suffer men changing clothes in their locker rooms, and exposing themselves in their bathrooms, and stealing their sporting scholarships.

No, chones...it's you despicable leftists who hate women.

 

[westwall]

Voting Republican is a hazard to your health.

Tell that to all the women and children raped and murdered by the illegals Harris is importing, you asshole.

 

[Rawley]

Nobody trusts these maniacs when they leave the law open to misinterpretation. With good reason.

Even an abortion fanatic such as yourself can't misinterpret the statue when it says doctors can perform an abortion when "the mother ’s life is in danger."

 

[Rawley]

This is a fair question. Paxton has threatened them. From said article:

A pregnant teenager died after trying to get care in three visits to Texas emergency rooms

It took 20 hours and three ER visits before doctors admitted the pregnant 18-year-old to the hospital as her condition worsened. She’s one of at least two women who died under Texas’ abortion ban.

www.texastribune.org

He has also made clear that he will bring charges against physicians for performing abortions if he decides that the cases don’t fall within Texas’ narrow medical exceptions.

Last year, he sent a letter threatening to prosecute a doctor who had received court approval to provide an emergency abortion for a Dallas woman. He insisted that the doctor and her patient had not proven how, precisely, the patient’s condition threatened her life.

Many doctors say this kind of message has encouraged doctors to “punt” patients instead of treating them.

Since the abortion bans went into effect, an OB-GYN at a major hospital in San Antonio has seen an uptick in pregnant patients being sent to them from across Southern Texas, as they suffer from complications that could easily be treated close to home.

Do you have links to quotes from Paxton where he is explicitly threatening doctors?

 

[martybegan]

I don't reflect in a mirror.

I understand your position, I just disagree with it for purposes of government intrusion.

All law is government intrusion.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Even an abortion fanatic such as yourself can't misinterpret the statue when it says doctors can perform an abortion when "the mother ’s life is in danger."

Who decides that ? This is what happens when stupid politicians stick rheir beaks in something that doesnt need them.

Life in danger is not an exact description.

 

[Rawley]

Who decides that ?

Uh, her doctors.

This is what happens when stupid politicians stick rheir beaks in something that doesnt need them.

Life in danger is not an exact description.

Which words confuse you? If my doctor cannot tell when my life is in danger, I'm getting another doctor. Not sure how it works on your planet.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Uh, her doctors.

Again, the AG has threatened to criminally and civilly prosecute them.

 

[Rawley]

Again, the AG has threatened to criminally and civilly prosecute them.

Yes, you were going to get us links to quotes of Paxton threatening those doctors. Still working in it?

This law is three years old now. How many doctors has Paxton prosecuted in those three years for violating this law?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Yes, you were going to get us links to quotes of Paxton threatening those doctors. Still working in it?

This law is three years old now. How many doctors has Paxton prosecuted in those three years for violating this law?

I did. Reading must be difficult for you. Post 306.

 

[westwall]

I did. Reading must be difficult for you. Post 306.

That link goes nowhere for me

 

[Zincwarrior]

That link goes nowhere for me

read the quote. He sent a letter. Jeez your aggressive pursuit of ignorance is awe inspiring.