Another major idiotic Biden decision!!!

Timing is everything. Right now the left is trying to stir up the right to get a patriot led “Mega-major civil disruption” so it an be squashed and used as an excused to ban and confiscate firearms.

At this moment there is not enough support for an uprising. If the Democrats are rigging elections there will be the necessary support in perhaps a decade. We still have time to use the system to vote the Democrats out and I hope we will. Peaceful change is always better than violent change if it can be accomplished.

Our nation could also break apart peacefully For example Texas might just decide to leave the Union followed by several other states. Why stay in a Union when you live on a border the nation refuses to enforce. Of course if our nation spits we will probably end up ruled by the Chinese (especially if we ever give up our right to own firearms.)

Not if most of us agree to split the country up in half like I've been promoting. The two new countries can unite to stand up to foreign enemies, but be two completely different countries.

Could you imagine how great it would be never to have to put up with liberal bullshit ever again? No liberals around would be like heaven on earth.
 
Not if most of us agree to split the country up in half like I've been promoting. The two new countries can unite to stand up to foreign enemies, but be two completely different countries.

Could you imagine how great it would be never to have to put up with liberal bullshit ever again? No liberals around would be like heaven on earth.
Interesting possibility. I doubt the liberals will go along with it. Still, I personally like it.

How would you handle the cuddly socialist programs like Social Security and Medicare?
 
Normally, I would say that you have a right to expound these ideas.. But today, those words are stirring up the fruitcakes with the ARs. I support your right to express yourself but when it goes into application then this is where Patriots like me will stand. You are advocating finishing what Rump and his bunch started for Jan6. I took an oath 5 times promising that I would stand against you and what you want. The part of the oath is "Domestic Terrorists".
Where did I say I supported violence? I want to see a peaceful split up of the nation if we can’t resolve the differences we face. I said that first I advocated voting to change the system.

Read my post again. …

Timing is everything. Right now the left is trying to stir up the right to get a patriot led “Mega-major civil disruption” so it an be squashed and used as an excuse to ban and confiscate firearms.

At this moment there is not enough support for an uprising. If the Democrats are rigging elections there will be the necessary support in perhaps a decade. We still have time to use the system to vote the Democrats out and I hope we will. Peaceful change is always better than violent change if it can be accomplished.

Our nation could also break apart peacefully For example Texas might just decide to leave the Union followed by several other states. Why stay in a Union when you live on a border the nation refuses to enforce. Of course if our nation spits we will probably end up ruled by the Chinese (especially if we ever give up our right to own firearms.)


Point out to me where I am stirring up fruitcakes with AR-15s and are you insinuating all Trump supporters are fruitcakes?

I clearly stated there isn’t enough support at this time for overthrowing our government because the Democrats are rigging elections. In a decade of so there may be undeniable evidence that they are and even if so that doesn’t mean we need a war to rectify the situation. First we always try peaceful means. An armed uprising is appropriate to overthrow a tyrannical government. At this time we do not have a tyrannical government. We do have an incompetent banana republic run by corrupt Democrats, the military industrial complex and a bunch of liberal news media outlets pushing Democrat propaganda.

Thanks for your service and your patriotism. I also took an oath to defend my nation and am a Viet Nam Era vet. After I left the service I worked for a defense contractor and held a security clearance for 37 years before I retired. I worked in secure rooms with coded entry doors, authorized access lists and alarms in the ceilings and walls.
 
Interesting possibility. I doubt the liberals will go along with it. Still, I personally like it.

How would you handle the cuddly socialist programs like Social Security and Medicare?

That too will be divided evenly. Afterwards each country can handle those issues the way they like. We can keep the same system or develop a different system entirely. I would think on our side those programs will be funded and ran by each state the way it should have been done in the first place.
 
That too will be divided evenly. Afterwards each country can handle those issues the way they like. We can keep the same system or develop a different system entirely. I would think on our side those programs will be funded and ran by each state the way it should have been done in the first place.
I would imagine the cuddly social programs will do better in the more conservative states as there are fewer corrupt politicians.
 
I would imagine the cuddly social programs will do better in the more conservative states as there are fewer corrupt politicians.

Eventually social programs became blackmail like we seen this past election. The left were making claims of Republicans cutting benefits from SS and Medicare if they get leadership of Congress. Or course it was a giant lie like they put out there every election, but it's what they use to maintain power.

In a conservative country that would not be an issue because most conservatives are self-reliant. Currently the left is trying to create even more government dependency. For instance if you call up your cable/ internet provider, and ask them how you could lower your bill, they will give you a government website. You fill out the form and government will subsidize your cable/ internet with federal money. I never went there, but from what I understand the income limits are very high. So down the road, perhaps next election, if enough people sign on to this program, the Democrats will be blackmailing people by saying the Republicans will get rid of your discounted or free cable/ internet. That's how it works.
 
Eventually social programs became blackmail like we seen this past election. The left were making claims of Republicans cutting benefits from SS and Medicare if they get leadership of Congress. Or course it was a giant lie like they put out there every election, but it's what they use to maintain power.

In a conservative country that would not be an issue because most conservatives are self-reliant. Currently the left is trying to create even more government dependency. For instance if you call up your cable/ internet provider, and ask them how you could lower your bill, they will give you a government website. You fill out the form and government will subsidize your cable/ internet with federal money. I never went there, but from what I understand the income limits are very high. So down the road, perhaps next election, if enough people sign on to this program, the Democrats will be blackmailing people by saying the Republicans will get rid of your discounted or free cable/ internet. That's how it works.
I like how Joe Biden made promises about paying off college loans before the election.
 
Where did I say I supported violence? I want to see a peaceful split up of the nation if we can’t resolve the differences we face. I said that first I advocated voting to change the system.

Read my post again. …

Timing is everything. Right now the left is trying to stir up the right to get a patriot led “Mega-major civil disruption” so it an be squashed and used as an excuse to ban and confiscate firearms.

At this moment there is not enough support for an uprising. If the Democrats are rigging elections there will be the necessary support in perhaps a decade. We still have time to use the system to vote the Democrats out and I hope we will. Peaceful change is always better than violent change if it can be accomplished.

Our nation could also break apart peacefully For example Texas might just decide to leave the Union followed by several other states. Why stay in a Union when you live on a border the nation refuses to enforce. Of course if our nation spits we will probably end up ruled by the Chinese (especially if we ever give up our right to own firearms.)


Point out to me where I am stirring up fruitcakes with AR-15s and are you insinuating all Trump supporters are fruitcakes?

I clearly stated there isn’t enough support at this time for overthrowing our government because the Democrats are rigging elections. In a decade of so there may be undeniable evidence that they are and even if so that doesn’t mean we need a war to rectify the situation. First we always try peaceful means. An armed uprising is appropriate to overthrow a tyrannical government. At this time we do not have a tyrannical government. We do have an incompetent banana republic run by corrupt Democrats, the military industrial complex and a bunch of liberal news media outlets pushing Democrat propaganda.

Thanks for your service and your patriotism. I also took an oath to defend my nation and am a Viet Nam Era vet. After I left the service I worked for a defense contractor and held a security clearance for 37 years before I retired. I worked in secure rooms with coded entry doors, authorized access lists and alarms in the ceilings and walls.

Thank you, Brother. Then you should know that there will never be a peaceful breakup of the United States.
 
Thank you, Brother. Then you should know that there will never be a peaceful breakup of the United States.
It is unlikely but would be preferable to a bloody break up.

I do know I have no interest in living in a Marist socialist society like the Democrats are pushing. I have absolutely no interest in living in a nation like Cuba or Venezuela.



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It is unlikely but would be preferable to a bloody break up.

I do know I have no interest in living in a Marist socialist society like the Democrats are pushing. I have absolutely no interest in living in a nation like Cuba or Venezuela.

Yet you would allow the formation of the 1930 Italian Fascist Government. I( have visited both what was called a Communist Government (Poland before the breakup) and a fascist government under Franco. I didn't see any violence in Poland. And the Polizi left us alone. Spain was a different thing.
Both of these were done in person in 1971.

We were just about back to the gate at a military base when were stopped by the Gendarmes at gun point. We were two minutes late past Curfew. We were made to stand at attention while they went on to us. They had one of us guys step forward. Then they beat the daylights out of him with nightsticks. The US Airforce Gateguards had to just stay out of it since we were on Spanish controlled property. You "Heroes" would have tried to stop them. (and you would be dead). When they got finished, they allowed us to help our buddy to the front gate while they laughed their asses off. What could be done afterwards? Nothing. The Gendarmes had permission to kill us all had the wanted to and nothing would have been said by anyone. The translation of the word Gendarme is Police. Think about some that recently ran for President wanting the Cops to do such things. And there are a couple running that also would work towards that same thing.

In Poland, the same infraction probably would have been done the same way. Socialism can lead to dictatorship but it's actually Oligarchy. Fascism is just the control of the other Capitalist side of things which is also Oligarchy but can turn into a Dictatorship pretty fast. The Left Right gauge is not linear. It's circular. The US was well on the way to Fascism just recently. You don't wish it to go Socialist by forcing it into Fascism. There is a reason people like me won't allow it to go either way.

Now, reread your old oath. You may be working to become exactly what fear the most.






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