And You Wonder Why People Question Elections In The US

[OKTexas]

U.S. Election Integrity Compares Poorly to Other Democracies

A 2019 report published by the Electoral Integrity Project, an independent project based out of Harvard University, found that U.S. elections from July 2012 through December 2018 rated "lower than any other long-established democracies and affluent societies." Each country in the index was given a score out of 100 based on assessments of the quality of each of its elections – including categories such as electoral laws, voter registration and voting process – one month after polls closed.
The U.S. score of 61 – the same score as Mexico and Panama – is the second-lowest among liberal democracies and much lower than other countries in the Americas region, including Costa Rica, Uruguay and Chile. Denmark, Finland and Norway are among the top-ranked countries in the index, all with scores in the 80s.


Wow, the US ranks right down there with Mexico and Panama, we should be soooo proud.

Your thoughts?

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US is not rated highly not because of election fraud but because of suppression of voter rights, gerrymandering, misinformation campaigns, lack of cybersecurity, and undermine confidence in the electoral process.

Confidence in the electoral process should be questioned. When you have the media that are suppose to be holding politicians accountable to the people, becoming advocates for one side and putting out not just misinformation but pure propaganda, there can be no fair elections. Also voter suppression is a freaking myth, record turnouts in all States proves that.

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You are giving the standard argument used in third world countries to discredit democratic elections, misinformation and propaganda by the media and political factions will mislead voters. The basic idea is you can't trust democratic election results because you can't trust the voters because they are easily led and not capable of making rational decisions. Since you have no faith in our electoral system, maybe you should propose something different.

Politicians, media, social media and PACs all lie with impunity, until there is criminal liability attached, nothing will change. People selling toothpaste are subject to more stringent laws.

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Each side will continue to lie just as they have in the past because that is what the opposition does. Hitting high when the opposition hits low is not a winning philosophy in American politics. Our political system is the result of having a democratic society and free elections where freedom of speech is paramount. Our electoral system may have it's flaws but it far better than the alternative, authoritarian elections.

When the media carries the water for one side there can be no free elections. The electorate has to be informed, not constantly lied to and propagandized.

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When a very large segment of the population, over 80 million voters believe that Trump at best, is a poor choice for president and at worst an immoral megalomania totally lacking in empathy, how would you expect mainstream media to react? The media certainly shapes public opinion but also reflects public opinion.

Yeah, you can fabricate all kinds of warped justifications in your little commie mind. That won't change the fact that 96+% negative MSM coverage for 4+ years, and them refusing to give him credit for any of the great things he did for this country, that made them nothing but propagandist. They reflected only the portion of public opinion that they agreed with. None of you are worth the powder it'd take to blow your brains out.

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[Flopper]

U.S. Election Integrity Compares Poorly to Other Democracies

A 2019 report published by the Electoral Integrity Project, an independent project based out of Harvard University, found that U.S. elections from July 2012 through December 2018 rated "lower than any other long-established democracies and affluent societies." Each country in the index was given a score out of 100 based on assessments of the quality of each of its elections – including categories such as electoral laws, voter registration and voting process – one month after polls closed.
The U.S. score of 61 – the same score as Mexico and Panama – is the second-lowest among liberal democracies and much lower than other countries in the Americas region, including Costa Rica, Uruguay and Chile. Denmark, Finland and Norway are among the top-ranked countries in the index, all with scores in the 80s.


Wow, the US ranks right down there with Mexico and Panama, we should be soooo proud.

Your thoughts?

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US is not rated highly not because of election fraud but because of suppression of voter rights, gerrymandering, misinformation campaigns, lack of cybersecurity, and undermine confidence in the electoral process.

Confidence in the electoral process should be questioned. When you have the media that are suppose to be holding politicians accountable to the people, becoming advocates for one side and putting out not just misinformation but pure propaganda, there can be no fair elections. Also voter suppression is a freaking myth, record turnouts in all States proves that.

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You are giving the standard argument used in third world countries to discredit democratic elections, misinformation and propaganda by the media and political factions will mislead voters. The basic idea is you can't trust democratic election results because you can't trust the voters because they are easily led and not capable of making rational decisions. Since you have no faith in our electoral system, maybe you should propose something different.

Politicians, media, social media and PACs all lie with impunity, until there is criminal liability attached, nothing will change. People selling toothpaste are subject to more stringent laws.

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Each side will continue to lie just as they have in the past because that is what the opposition does. Hitting high when the opposition hits low is not a winning philosophy in American politics. Our political system is the result of having a democratic society and free elections where freedom of speech is paramount. Our electoral system may have it's flaws but it far better than the alternative, authoritarian elections.

When the media carries the water for one side there can be no free elections. The electorate has to be informed, not constantly lied to and propagandized.

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When a very large segment of the population, over 80 million voters believe that Trump at best, is a poor choice for president and at worst an immoral megalomania totally lacking in empathy, how would you expect mainstream media to react? The media certainly shapes public opinion but also reflects public opinion.

Yeah, you can fabricate all kinds of warped justifications in your little commie mind. That won't change the fact that 96+% negative MSM coverage for 4+ years, and them refusing to give him credit for any of the great things he did for this country, that made them nothing but propagandist. They reflected only the portion of public opinion that they agreed with. None of you are worth the powder it'd take to blow your brains out.

What the fuck is MSM?

 

[Thevolunteerwino]

U.S. Election Integrity Compares Poorly to Other Democracies

A 2019 report published by the Electoral Integrity Project, an independent project based out of Harvard University, found that U.S. elections from July 2012 through December 2018 rated "lower than any other long-established democracies and affluent societies." Each country in the index was given a score out of 100 based on assessments of the quality of each of its elections – including categories such as electoral laws, voter registration and voting process – one month after polls closed.
The U.S. score of 61 – the same score as Mexico and Panama – is the second-lowest among liberal democracies and much lower than other countries in the Americas region, including Costa Rica, Uruguay and Chile. Denmark, Finland and Norway are among the top-ranked countries in the index, all with scores in the 80s.


Wow, the US ranks right down there with Mexico and Panama, we should be soooo proud.

Your thoughts?

.

US is not rated highly not because of election fraud but because of suppression of voter rights, gerrymandering, misinformation campaigns, lack of cybersecurity, and undermine confidence in the electoral process.

Confidence in the electoral process should be questioned. When you have the media that are suppose to be holding politicians accountable to the people, becoming advocates for one side and putting out not just misinformation but pure propaganda, there can be no fair elections. Also voter suppression is a freaking myth, record turnouts in all States proves that.

.

You are giving the standard argument used in third world countries to discredit democratic elections, misinformation and propaganda by the media and political factions will mislead voters. The basic idea is you can't trust democratic election results because you can't trust the voters because they are easily led and not capable of making rational decisions. Since you have no faith in our electoral system, maybe you should propose something different.

Politicians, media, social media and PACs all lie with impunity, until there is criminal liability attached, nothing will change. People selling toothpaste are subject to more stringent laws.

.

Each side will continue to lie just as they have in the past because that is what the opposition does. Hitting high when the opposition hits low is not a winning philosophy in American politics. Our political system is the result of having a democratic society and free elections where freedom of speech is paramount. Our electoral system may have it's flaws but it far better than the alternative, authoritarian elections.

When the media carries the water for one side there can be no free elections. The electorate has to be informed, not constantly lied to and propagandized.

.

When a very large segment of the population, over 80 million voters believe that Trump at best, is a poor choice for president and at worst an immoral megalomania totally lacking in empathy, how would you expect mainstream media to react? The media certainly shapes public opinion but also reflects public opinion.

Yeah, you can fabricate all kinds of warped justifications in your little commie mind. That won't change the fact that 96+% negative MSM coverage for 4+ years, and them refusing to give him credit for any of the great things he did for this country, that made them nothing but propagandist. They reflected only the portion of public opinion that they agreed with. None of you are worth the powder it'd take to blow your brains out.

What the fuck is MSM?

Main stream media

 

[OKTexas]

U.S. Election Integrity Compares Poorly to Other Democracies

A 2019 report published by the Electoral Integrity Project, an independent project based out of Harvard University, found that U.S. elections from July 2012 through December 2018 rated "lower than any other long-established democracies and affluent societies." Each country in the index was given a score out of 100 based on assessments of the quality of each of its elections – including categories such as electoral laws, voter registration and voting process – one month after polls closed.
The U.S. score of 61 – the same score as Mexico and Panama – is the second-lowest among liberal democracies and much lower than other countries in the Americas region, including Costa Rica, Uruguay and Chile. Denmark, Finland and Norway are among the top-ranked countries in the index, all with scores in the 80s.


Wow, the US ranks right down there with Mexico and Panama, we should be soooo proud.

Your thoughts?

.

US is not rated highly not because of election fraud but because of suppression of voter rights, gerrymandering, misinformation campaigns, lack of cybersecurity, and undermine confidence in the electoral process.

Confidence in the electoral process should be questioned. When you have the media that are suppose to be holding politicians accountable to the people, becoming advocates for one side and putting out not just misinformation but pure propaganda, there can be no fair elections. Also voter suppression is a freaking myth, record turnouts in all States proves that.

.

You are giving the standard argument used in third world countries to discredit democratic elections, misinformation and propaganda by the media and political factions will mislead voters. The basic idea is you can't trust democratic election results because you can't trust the voters because they are easily led and not capable of making rational decisions. Since you have no faith in our electoral system, maybe you should propose something different.

Politicians, media, social media and PACs all lie with impunity, until there is criminal liability attached, nothing will change. People selling toothpaste are subject to more stringent laws.

.

Each side will continue to lie just as they have in the past because that is what the opposition does. Hitting high when the opposition hits low is not a winning philosophy in American politics. Our political system is the result of having a democratic society and free elections where freedom of speech is paramount. Our electoral system may have it's flaws but it far better than the alternative, authoritarian elections.

When the media carries the water for one side there can be no free elections. The electorate has to be informed, not constantly lied to and propagandized.

.

When a very large segment of the population, over 80 million voters believe that Trump at best, is a poor choice for president and at worst an immoral megalomania totally lacking in empathy, how would you expect mainstream media to react? The media certainly shapes public opinion but also reflects public opinion.

Yeah, you can fabricate all kinds of warped justifications in your little commie mind. That won't change the fact that 96+% negative MSM coverage for 4+ years, and them refusing to give him credit for any of the great things he did for this country, that made them nothing but propagandist. They reflected only the portion of public opinion that they agreed with. None of you are worth the powder it'd take to blow your brains out.

What the fuck is MSM?

Wow, I really appreciate you opening your mouth and proving you're stupid. Carry on commie.

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[schmidlap]

U.S. Election Integrity Compares Poorly to Other Democracies

The 2020 election should restore faith in democracy for any who might have been wavering. Scrupulous oversight, certifications by Republican governors, secretaries of state, attorneys general, often after multiple recounts, a plethora of frivolous legal challenges ruled meritless by dozens of judges, Republicans and even Trump-appointees concluded, all the way up to the Supreme Court, insure their integrity. The fact that the results were entirely consistent with expectations - Americans having relentlessly disapproved of Trump for four years in independent survey after independent survey - is an additional affirmation of the reliability of America's democratic process, of course.

The alternative, self-serving proposition that the Cry Baby Loser posited with no evidence - that he won in a landslide - was obviously pulled out of his butt and would be best shoved back in.

 

[Flopper]

U.S. Election Integrity Compares Poorly to Other Democracies

The 2020 election should restore faith in democracy for any who might have been wavering. Scrupulous oversight, certifications by Republican governors, secretaries of state, attorneys general, often after multiple recounts, a plethora of frivolous legal challenges ruled meritless by dozens of judges, Republicans and even Trump-appointees concluded, all the way up to the Supreme Court, insure their integrity. The fact that the results were entirely consistent with expectations - Americans having relentlessly disapproved of Trump for four years in independent survey after independent survey - is an additional affirmation of the reliability of America's democratic process, of course.

The alternative, self-serving proposition that the Cry Baby Loser posited with no evidence - that he won in a landslide - was obviously pulled out of his butt and would be best shoved back in.

Stealing a presidential election would be incredibly difficult because it is actually 50 separate elections conducted under different rules using different voting technologies from different companies. Determining which states to target and how many votes to change in each state before the votes are counted might make a good movie and certainly some good conspiracy theories but it is not a subject for serious debate. By far the greatest danger of election fraud is local elections.

 

[Captain Caveman]

U.S. Election Integrity Compares Poorly to Other Democracies

A 2019 report published by the Electoral Integrity Project, an independent project based out of Harvard University, found that U.S. elections from July 2012 through December 2018 rated "lower than any other long-established democracies and affluent societies." Each country in the index was given a score out of 100 based on assessments of the quality of each of its elections – including categories such as electoral laws, voter registration and voting process – one month after polls closed.
The U.S. score of 61 – the same score as Mexico and Panama – is the second-lowest among liberal democracies and much lower than other countries in the Americas region, including Costa Rica, Uruguay and Chile. Denmark, Finland and Norway are among the top-ranked countries in the index, all with scores in the 80s.


Wow, the US ranks right down there with Mexico and Panama, we should be soooo proud.

Your thoughts?

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I would compare America's 2020 election on par with a rigged Middle Eastern country's election.

 

[schmidlap]

I would compare America's 2020 election on par with a rigged Middle Eastern country's election.

That is just the sort of thing one would expect a Trump cultist whose devotion is based upon emotion to fantasize.

A rational perspective provides a radically different point of view in which most Americans simply voted consistent with their relentless disapproval of Cry Baby Loser over four years when finally given the opportunity to do so.

The expected result was further confirmed by multiple recounts, certifications by Republican governors, secretaries of state, attorneys general, dozens of judges, and Trump's own sycophantic AG. Sentient beings concur.

Elsewhere, among those who loathe democratic self-governance, this is the mindless attitude that shows contempt for evidence and logic:

"I WON IN A LANDSLIDE!"

"TRUMP WON IN A LANDSLIDE!"​

 

[forkup]

U.S. Election Integrity Compares Poorly to Other Democracies

A 2019 report published by the Electoral Integrity Project, an independent project based out of Harvard University, found that U.S. elections from July 2012 through December 2018 rated "lower than any other long-established democracies and affluent societies." Each country in the index was given a score out of 100 based on assessments of the quality of each of its elections – including categories such as electoral laws, voter registration and voting process – one month after polls closed.
The U.S. score of 61 – the same score as Mexico and Panama – is the second-lowest among liberal democracies and much lower than other countries in the Americas region, including Costa Rica, Uruguay and Chile. Denmark, Finland and Norway are among the top-ranked countries in the index, all with scores in the 80s.


Wow, the US ranks right down there with Mexico and Panama, we should be soooo proud.

Your thoughts?

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I would compare America's 2020 election on par with a rigged Middle Eastern country's election.

And you base this on a rigorous examination of the facts, presented to judges who ruled favorably on that right?

 

[Captain Caveman]

That is just the sort of thing one would expect a Trump cultis

I'm a Brit you dumbass. Keep your Trump and paedo Biden.

 

[Captain Caveman]

And you base this on a rigorous examination of the facts, presented to judges who ruled favorably on that right?

No, observation over the years in UK's news.

 

[schmidlap]

And you base this on a rigorous examination of the facts, presented to judges who ruled favorably on that right?

They are very emotional folks. The heart has its reasons that reason knows not of.

 

[schmidlap]

I'm a Brit you dumbass. Keep your Trump and paedo Biden.

Brits are not immune to Trumpery. Americans elected Biden.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I'm a Brit you dumbass. Keep your Trump and paedo Biden.

Brits are not immune to Trumpery. Americans elected Biden.

Yes, they elected a guy that sniffs and fondles children. I believe he's known as Paedo Joe. We have laws against that sort of thing in the UK but Democrats elect them in the US. Bizarre.

 

[schmidlap]

Yes, they elected a guy that sniffs and fondles children. I believe he's known as Paedo Joe. We have laws against that sort of thing in the UK but Democrats elect them in the US. Bizarre.

Pissy Trump bum kissers would snivel about anyone Americans elected to clean up after their disgraced Cry Baby, of course.

What about all those pedophile pizza parties in the back of Cesar 'False Flag' Sayoc's TrumpMobile? (Joe always orders his with double anchovies!)

 

[Flopper]

U.S. Election Integrity Compares Poorly to Other Democracies

A 2019 report published by the Electoral Integrity Project, an independent project based out of Harvard University, found that U.S. elections from July 2012 through December 2018 rated "lower than any other long-established democracies and affluent societies." Each country in the index was given a score out of 100 based on assessments of the quality of each of its elections – including categories such as electoral laws, voter registration and voting process – one month after polls closed.
The U.S. score of 61 – the same score as Mexico and Panama – is the second-lowest among liberal democracies and much lower than other countries in the Americas region, including Costa Rica, Uruguay and Chile. Denmark, Finland and Norway are among the top-ranked countries in the index, all with scores in the 80s.


Wow, the US ranks right down there with Mexico and Panama, we should be soooo proud.

Your thoughts?

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The following is an update of US performance in the 2020 election with key findings.

1.Election experts overwhelmingly rejected claims of widespread fraud occurring in their state during the balloting and vote tabulation stages of the 2020 U.S. elections. These assessments are fully consistent with evidence from the courts and the series of reports by state officials, federal agencies, and other authoritative sources.

2.At the same time, this does not imply that experts believe that the performance of all stages in the 2020 American elections should be given a clean bill of health. Many commentators have been too quick to assume that if claims of voter fraud are baseless, and turnout rose, then other stages of the contest are likely to have worked equally well across all states. But election experts identified a series of structural problems undermining American democracy. As repeatedly highlighted in previous EIP reports, 5 of these include: Electoral laws and gerrymandered districts favoring incumbents; campaign coverage by local press and TV news lacking fairness and balance while social media amplified misinformation; campaign finance lacking transparency and equitable access; communities of color experiencing difficulties in registering and voting; women and minorities candidates encountering barriers to elected office; and, the declaration of results generating lengthy disputes. At the same time, several strengths in the electoral process were also identified, namely: the fair and efficient management of electoral procedures and voting processes, and the professional performance of electoral authorities.

3.Finally,expert assessments also indicate that compared with 2016, the performance of this contest displays several warning flags, namely worsening confidence in the integrity of American elections and falling public trust, challenges to legitimacy arising from threats of campaign violence, legal disputes about the process and results, and public protests about the outcome, as well as growing attempts at voter suppression. Some of the worst fears of foreign meddling and outright violence did not materialize during the election and its immediate aftermath, although these potential risks persist. To prevent further deterioration of public confidence in future elections, this report recommends that structural weaknesses should be addressed.

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[OKTexas]

I would compare America's 2020 election on par with a rigged Middle Eastern country's election.

That is just the sort of thing one would expect a Trump cultist whose devotion is based upon emotion to fantasize.

A rational perspective provides a radically different point of view in which most Americans simply voted consistent with their relentless disapproval of Cry Baby Loser over four years when finally given the opportunity to do so.

The expected result was further confirmed by multiple recounts, certifications by Republican governors, secretaries of state, attorneys general, dozens of judges, and Trump's own sycophantic AG. Sentient beings concur.

Elsewhere, among those who loathe democratic self-governance, this is the mindless attitude that shows contempt for evidence and logic:

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"I WON IN A LANDSLIDE!"

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"TRUMP WON IN A LANDSLIDE!"​

And it only took States violating their own laws, Constitutions and the US Constitution to do it. You must really be proud.

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[EvilCat Breath]

U.S. Election Integrity Compares Poorly to Other Democracies

A 2019 report published by the Electoral Integrity Project, an independent project based out of Harvard University, found that U.S. elections from July 2012 through December 2018 rated "lower than any other long-established democracies and affluent societies." Each country in the index was given a score out of 100 based on assessments of the quality of each of its elections – including categories such as electoral laws, voter registration and voting process – one month after polls closed.
The U.S. score of 61 – the same score as Mexico and Panama – is the second-lowest among liberal democracies and much lower than other countries in the Americas region, including Costa Rica, Uruguay and Chile. Denmark, Finland and Norway are among the top-ranked countries in the index, all with scores in the 80s.


Wow, the US ranks right down there with Mexico and Panama, we should be soooo proud.

Your thoughts?

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Too high.
We are more like North Korea or Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

U.S. Election Integrity Compares Poorly to Other Democracies

The 2020 election should restore faith in democracy for any who might have been wavering. Scrupulous oversight, certifications by Republican governors, secretaries of state, attorneys general, often after multiple recounts, a plethora of frivolous legal challenges ruled meritless by dozens of judges, Republicans and even Trump-appointees concluded, all the way up to the Supreme Court, insure their integrity. The fact that the results were entirely consistent with expectations - Americans having relentlessly disapproved of Trump for four years in independent survey after independent survey - is an additional affirmation of the reliability of America's democratic process, of course.

The alternative, self-serving proposition that the Cry Baby Loser posited with no evidence - that he won in a landslide - was obviously pulled out of his butt and would be best shoved back in.

Ok...after that stupidity.........

I'm conviniced this is RightWingers Sock Puppet account

 

[OKTexas]

U.S. Election Integrity Compares Poorly to Other Democracies

A 2019 report published by the Electoral Integrity Project, an independent project based out of Harvard University, found that U.S. elections from July 2012 through December 2018 rated "lower than any other long-established democracies and affluent societies." Each country in the index was given a score out of 100 based on assessments of the quality of each of its elections – including categories such as electoral laws, voter registration and voting process – one month after polls closed.
The U.S. score of 61 – the same score as Mexico and Panama – is the second-lowest among liberal democracies and much lower than other countries in the Americas region, including Costa Rica, Uruguay and Chile. Denmark, Finland and Norway are among the top-ranked countries in the index, all with scores in the 80s.


Wow, the US ranks right down there with Mexico and Panama, we should be soooo proud.

Your thoughts?

.

I would compare America's 2020 election on par with a rigged Middle Eastern country's election.

And you base this on a rigorous examination of the facts, presented to judges who ruled favorably on that right?

The only judge that considered the merits of a case ruled in favor of Trump, the rest took every opportunity to not rule and cited every technicality in the book as an excuse not to review the merits of the cases.

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