Zone1 And it shall be like in the days of Noah.................

[Votto]

Luke 17:26

26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.

It is interesting that the Bible warns of a second type of great Deluge event where God will have to intervene on man's behalf to save the human race. But what triggered the Great Deluge event to being with? Well, we are given clues as to what happened.

Genesis 6:2

That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

The Bible does not really get into what occurred other than these few verses, hints as to what actually happened but were expounded upon in the book of Enoch at length. In Enoch, we are told that other worldly beings, aka, demonic entities, later referred to as the Nephilim, came to earth to reproduce with human beings, creating a superhuman race of beings who who were giants and who also provided forbidden knowledge that further oppressed the human race. The combination of superhuman strength and ability along with the power of the forbidden knowledge they brought, equaled an end game of humanity being snuffed out entirely. If it had not been for the Great Deluge, humanity would have ceased to be. And there is a great deal of evidence for this as we have uncovered more and more prehistory architecture sites that show massive monuments that defy explanation along with other forms of technology mankind developed in ancient times, a lot of which was seemingly lost for no apparent reason. In fact, these structures were a worldwide phenomenon along with all ancient cultures around the globe speaking of "giants" as a ruling class of elites.

But today, mankind seemingly has recreated the Nephilim via AI. Here you have once again an entity that no doubt will someday have superhuman ability, not only on a physical level, but one in knowledge as well. Is AI the trigger mechanism for the great day of the Lord to come about in order for God to save mankind from himself once again?

 

[EMH]

minor problem - not enough H2O on Earth to actually drown out the land...

 

[Votto]

minor problem - not enough H2O on Earth to actually drown out the land...

Two things.

1. Scientists Discover Massive Hidden Ocean 400 Miles Beneath Earth’s Surface
Scientist are only just beginning to learn about the hidden oceans under the earths crust. In the book of Enoch, for example, it says that God released the water from the deep.

2. The mystery of the firmament, that is, the preflood atmosphere.



It is a theological mystery as to what those waters above were, but are no more. Whatever it was, those waters more than likely came down and helped flood the globe.

In fact, ancient cultures around the globe have myth stories about the firmament, just like they do about giants and a great flood worldwide.

 

[MarcATL]

Itching ears. Itching ears. Don't forget that one OP.

 

[Votto]

Itching ears. Itching ears. Don't forget that one OP.

Mankind's first fall was after knowledge, devoid of wisdom

That is why the forbidden tree was named the knowledge of good and evil. Don't you think that that seems odd to name a tree that?

Knowledge empowers, and as we all know, power corrupts.

Thus, knowledge without wisdom brings death.

It's just a fact of life

Your average Left wing atheist loon only wants knowledge and could care less about wisdom. That is why many say they like science but hate religion.

 

[luiza]

Luke 17:26

26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.

It is interesting that the Bible warns of a second type of great Deluge event where God will have to intervene on man's behalf to save the human race. But what triggered the Great Deluge event to being with? Well, we are given clues as to what happened.

Genesis 6:2

That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

The Bible does not really get into what occurred other than these few verses, hints as to what actually happened but were expounded upon in the book of Enoch at length. In Enoch, we are told that other worldly beings, aka, demonic entities, later referred to as the Nephilim, came to earth to reproduce with human beings, creating a superhuman race of beings who who were giants and who also provided forbidden knowledge that further oppressed the human race. The combination of superhuman strength and ability along with the power of the forbidden knowledge they brought, equaled an end game of humanity being snuffed out entirely. If it had not been for the Great Deluge, humanity would have ceased to be. And there is a great deal of evidence for this as we have uncovered more and more prehistory architecture sites that show massive monuments that defy explanation along with other forms of technology mankind developed in ancient times, a lot of which was seemingly lost for no apparent reason. In fact, these structures were a worldwide phenomenon along with all ancient cultures around the globe speaking of "giants" as a ruling class of elites.

But today, mankind seemingly has recreated the Nephilim via AI. Here you have once again an entity that no doubt will someday have superhuman ability, not only on a physical level, but one in knowledge as well. Is AI the trigger mechanism for the great day of the Lord to come about in order for God to save mankind from himself once again?

There's a major event every 6000 years .

With the magnetic poles shifting fast and the whole field weakening dramatically , we could shortly be in big trouble .

Near extinction at Pole Reversal events -- see underground cities and networks in US , China and Russia .


Nothing much said yet in the mainstream .
Deliberate suppression ?
Naturally .

The phoney Warming / Climate narratives are probably being used as Deflection to keep the irritating Sheeple looking the wrong way . As usual .

 

[DennisPTate]

Luke 17:26

26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.

It is interesting that the Bible warns of a second type of great Deluge event where God will have to intervene on man's behalf to save the human race. But what triggered the Great Deluge event to being with? Well, we are given clues as to what happened.

Genesis 6:2

That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

The Bible does not really get into what occurred other than these few verses, hints as to what actually happened but were expounded upon in the book of Enoch at length. In Enoch, we are told that other worldly beings, aka, demonic entities, later referred to as the Nephilim, came to earth to reproduce with human beings, creating a superhuman race of beings who who were giants and who also provided forbidden knowledge that further oppressed the human race. The combination of superhuman strength and ability along with the power of the forbidden knowledge they brought, equaled an end game of humanity being snuffed out entirely. If it had not been for the Great Deluge, humanity would have ceased to be. And there is a great deal of evidence for this as we have uncovered more and more prehistory architecture sites that show massive monuments that defy explanation along with other forms of technology mankind developed in ancient times, a lot of which was seemingly lost for no apparent reason. In fact, these structures were a worldwide phenomenon along with all ancient cultures around the globe speaking of "giants" as a ruling class of elites.

But today, mankind seemingly has recreated the Nephilim via AI. Here you have once again an entity that no doubt will someday have superhuman ability, not only on a physical level, but one in knowledge as well. Is AI the trigger mechanism for the great day of the Lord to come about in order for God to save mankind from himself once again?

Would you like to pursue information related to the possibility that genetic engineering, cloning, robotics and other amazing technology may have existed even before the time of Moses?

I don't want to hijack your thread if this idea is annoying to you.

[The Book of Jasher chapter 4]

And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals.



19 And the Lord said, I will blot out man that I created from the face of the earth, yea from man to the birds of the air, together with cattle and beasts that are in the field for I repent that I made them.



20 And all men who walked in the ways of the Lord, died in those days, before the Lord brought the evil upon man which he had declared, for this was from the Lord, that they should not see the evil which the Lord spoke of concerning the sons of men.



21 And Noah found grace in the sight of the Lord, and the Lord chose him and his children to raise up seed from them upon the face of the whole earth.

Book of Jasher, Chapter 4 | Internet Sacred Text Archive

Christianity: 1 And all the days that Enoch lived upon earth, were three hundred and sixty-five years.

sacred-texts.com

 

[Votto]

Would you like to pursue information related to the possibility that genetic engineering, cloning, robotics and other amazing technology may have existed even before the time of Moses?

I don't want to hijack your thread if this idea is annoying to you.

Go for it.

What do you have?

 

[DennisPTate]

Go for it.

What do you have?

Actually quite a lot and from many different sources.

Some of the info is in this other discussion:

Zone1 Post in thread 'Is a massive dump of information on the UFO phenomena coming out?'

Jan 10, 2026

I am hopeful that the following lecture that has a bit of a "Congressional Hearing" flavour about it is the beginning of a massive dump of information about the UFO phenomena?

This lecture may be useful to many of us who have friends who will tend to reject information unless it is shown to fit with the Bible.

Near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai Th. D. does a great job of giving us all the names of UFO experts who have done their very best to put the truth out there to all of us.



New Revelation on the Coming Alien Disclosure—Don’t Fall for It!



Here is...

• BothWings

• 

Egyptian or Sumerian hieroglyphics on what appears to be reverse engineered alien craft is an interesting place to begin!

[Kevin Zadai] :
"Now, this is backed up by people that were eyewitness, too, as well, that I
have talked to. They have pieces of these beams that have these hieroglyphics on it,
which is not a known language, but we have found these to be on other craft that
have been down
in later years. So, these symbols show up a couple of different
places. What I'm trying to do is coordinate if it is ancient Egyptian, or ancient Sumer.
Sumer is the area of Mesopotamia where God called Abram. It was in Ur the
Chaldees. It's in Southeaste
rn Iraq, right south of Babylon. Nimrod escaped there at
the time that God came down and confused their language. Nimrod ran over to
Mesopotamia to the end there and was in the area where Abraham was and so that's
very interesting.

That language of the Sumerians is gone and it's a dead language. There is one
person I know of, but I don't know if he's still alive, but there is a professor on the
East Coast, I think in South Carolina, that has the ability to read Sumer, and he was
able
to translate recordings of aliens who had been speaking, and it was recorded.
He said that it is Sumerian. It was satan himself talking, but it was one of these
creatures, one of these gray creatures. If you are interested in that, it is called
Encounters
of the Fourth Kind. It was an HBO documentary. You don't want to
watch it because it's a documentary and the stuff on there is live recordings of UFOs
by police film, and also an encounter where this demonic entity enters into the room
and speaks Sumerian
, and they were able to translate it through this one professor." [Kevin Zadai, They Must Go, Level 1, [Emphasis mine].

They Must Go

Then again... I have to admit that "Operation Paperclip" muddies the water?!

Operation Paperclip was a secret United States intelligence program in which more than 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians were taken from former Nazi Germany to the US for government employment after the end of World War II in Europe, between 1945 and 1959; several were confirmed to be former members of the Nazi Party, including the SS or the SA.

The effort began in earnest in 1945, as the Allies advanced into Germany and discovered a wealth of scientific talent and advanced research that had contributed to Germany's wartime technological advancements. The US Joint Chiefs of Staff officially established Operation Overcast (operations "Overcast" and "Paperclip" were related, and the terms are often used interchangeably) on July 20, 1945, with the dual aims of leveraging German expertise for the ongoing war effort against Japan and to bolster US postwar military research. The operation, conducted by the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA), was largely actioned by special agents of the US Army's Counterintelligence Corps (CIC). Many selected scientists were involved in the Nazi rocket program, aviation, or chemical/biological warfare. The Soviet Union in the following year conducted a similar program, called Operation Osoaviakhim, that emphasized many of the same fields of research.

Operation Paperclip - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And some of the most interesting modern evidence of aliens being involved with us humans for decades, centuries and even millennia... may be:

When I admit that "Operation Paperclip" muddies the water I mean that perhaps Hitler may have forced now unknown Jewish scientists on the Einstein level [or even on the Nikola Tesla, level], to develop technology for Hitler..... as opposed to being tortured? The fact that Jewish George Soros survived WWII is proof that there were ways that Jewish scientists could stay alive during The Holocaust.

 

[DennisPTate]

There's a major event every 6000 years .

With the magnetic poles shifting fast and the whole field weakening dramatically , we could shortly be in big trouble .

Near extinction at Pole Reversal events -- see underground cities and networks in US , China and Russia .


Nothing much said yet in the mainstream .
Deliberate suppression ?
Naturally .

The phoney Warming / Climate narratives are probably being used as Deflection to keep the irritating Sheeple looking the wrong way . As usual .

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dr. Albert Einstein's long time friend Immanuel Velikovsky had Dr. Einstein convinced of what could be termed HAB Theory for many years until perhaps the pressure got too intense even for Dr. Einstein.

Zone1 Thread 'Did the ADDITION of H2O to Antarctica keep ocean levels stable for centuries?'

Jan 31, 2026

Was the ADDITION of H2O to Antarctica the number one reason that ocean levels have not risen in not only DECADES but actually centuries?

During my 2008 campaign for public office in Nova Scotia, a well read elderly gentleman from Latvia made me aware of the following:

"Let us consider Antarctica for a moment.
We have already seen that it is big. It has a land area of 5.5
million square miles, and is presently covered by something in excess
of seven million cubic miles of ice weighing an estimated 19
quadrillion tons (19 followed by 15 zeros). What worries the
theorists of earth-crust...

• DennisPTate
• Replies: 17
• Forum: Clean Debate Zone

 

[BreezeWood]

It is interesting that the Bible warns of a second type of great Deluge event where God will have to intervene on man's behalf to save the human race. But what triggered the Great Deluge event to being with? Well, we are given clues as to what happened.

- all would have been evil w/ the passing of noah who was more good than evil, the intervention destroyed beforehand the evil to give humanity a second chance. to triumph good vs evil the heavenly goal granted a&e at their request for self determination.

the heavens will not intervene again from the noah'n conflagration - the treasure beyond the rainbow is the everlasting.

But today, mankind seemingly has recreated ...

- the false desert religions beginning w/ judaism the 1st century events, jesus repudiated, false commandments et al to return to the true path of self determination, liberation theology.

 

[luiza]

Actually quite a lot and from many different sources.

A thread on Antarctica would be great .
The Sheeple can label it anyway they choose , but there is something very odd going on down there .
You still are totally banned from flying over the Pole area and the place is , imho , at minimum the home for another
HAARP type of project .
"Ours" or theirs ? !!!!

I have never forgotten when John Kerry went down there actually missing the Trumpfy first election voting day ( another Prince of Darkness) .
The Pope also visited , as did Pooters ,and Buzz Aldrin was sent back home even more deranged .
Did a few Elohim fly in to give Deep State top Elite their working briefs ?

As for Velikovsky .
He and Tesla make Einstein look the second rate plagiarist he really was .

And yes ,
It would start with pre-war Nazi interest , followed up by Operation High Jump and Operation Paper Clip .

Much more fun than the stupid US party system which is just one party working for ------ certain outsiders who sometimes visit the deep South etc etc ???

 

[Votto]

Actually quite a lot and from many different sources.

Some of the info is in this other discussion:

Zone1 Post in thread 'Is a massive dump of information on the UFO phenomena coming out?'

Jan 10, 2026

I am hopeful that the following lecture that has a bit of a "Congressional Hearing" flavour about it is the beginning of a massive dump of information about the UFO phenomena?

This lecture may be useful to many of us who have friends who will tend to reject information unless it is shown to fit with the Bible.

Near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai Th. D. does a great job of giving us all the names of UFO experts who have done their very best to put the truth out there to all of us.



New Revelation on the Coming Alien Disclosure—Don’t Fall for It!



Here is...

• BothWings

• 

Egyptian or Sumerian hieroglyphics on what appears to be reverse engineered alien craft is an interesting place to begin!





Then again... I have to admit that "Operation Paperclip" muddies the water?!




And some of the most interesting modern evidence of aliens being involved with us humans for decades, centuries and even millennia... may be:

When I admit that "Operation Paperclip" muddies the water I mean that perhaps Hitler may have forced now unknown Jewish scientists on the Einstein level [or even on the Nikola Tesla, level], to develop technology for Hitler..... as opposed to being tortured? The fact that Jewish George Soros survived WWII is proof that there were ways that Jewish scientists could stay alive during The Holocaust.

This is what freaks me out.



It's all historical knowledge that links ancient cultures all around the world.

For example, they all have the same Garden of Eden tale, along with flood tale, along with giants tale, etc.

And their architecture, that is prehistoric building all looks the same, opting mostly for pyramids, with buildings and technology that they simply should not have had. And then it all stopped all around the world at the same time, that is unexplained, suggesting cataclysm as most of their knowledge disappeared with it. In fact, most of the temples to the gods we see in places like Greece and Rome were built upon the foundations of prehistoric construction. They probably built them to the unknown gods that built those structures, structures they did not come close to duplicating in terms of precision and size. You can clearly see the difference if you compare the base of the monuments to the rest of the standing structures.

Here is an unsettling question, what is the difference between God and aliens? For me, alien means completely foreign, something that would be impossible of such a God made us.

Clearly, something is off here.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Mankind's first fall was after knowledge, devoid of wisdom

That is why the forbidden tree was named the knowledge of good and evil. Don't you think that that seems odd to name a tree that?

Knowledge empowers, and as we all know, power corrupts

It isn't the "Tree of Knowledge", it is the Tree of the Knowledge of GOOD AND EVIL.

This was a CHOICE God forced upon Mankind -- to look to God to understand "good and evil", or DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES what is good and evil.

Because they decided to REJECT GOD, and His rule in their lives, God has left Mankind to suffer the consequences of life without God.

That ends soon

 

[Votto]

It isn't the "Tree of Knowledge", it is the Tree of the Knowledge of GOOD AND EVIL.

This was a CHOICE God forced upon Mankind -- to look to God to understand "good and evil", or DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES what is good and evil.

Because they decided to REJECT GOD, and His rule in their lives, God has left Mankind to suffer the consequences of life without God.

That ends soon

Notice how the serpent tried to entice them to partake of the tree. He said that their eyes will be opened and they will be as gods.

The serpent made it sound as if God was withholding certain knowledge from them that was desirable, even though God told them they were either not ready for such knowledge, or would never be ready for it.

This issue is, man is finite, and as such, there will always be certain areas of knowledge that they do not have, or if they have it, they do not have the wisdom to use it properly. That is why we need God. That is why we need faith. That is why we will always require faith in God. It is because mankind will always be confronted with the unknown, and in such cases, must rely on God to direct us regarding what we do not know.

To sum up, the whole story is about who will be your God? Will it be you or the real God? In which scenario will you be better off?

Most do not choose the former. Unfortunately, most will choose knowledge over God in order to try and empower themselves, with the presumption that based on that power it will be superior or equal to that power of the Almighty, which is just silly. And it is all based on the premise that God is withholding what is best from us so that will miss out on something that is better than God himself.

 

[Votto]

Who are the Watchers spoken of by the ancient historians who gave the people technology and knowledge?



From a religious standpoint, you would probably refer to them as spiritual beings.

From a secular standpoint, you would probably say they were aliens.

Either way, they are what they are. And if the "Watchers" could assume human form and mate with human women. like described in Genesis, what is the real difference between the alien and demon?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Notice how the serpent tried to entice them to partake of the tree. He said that their eyes will be opened and they will be as gods.

The serpent made it sound as if God was withholding certain knowledge from them that was desirable, even though God told them they were either not ready for such knowledge, or would never be ready for it.

This issue is, man is finite, and as such, there will always be certain areas of knowledge that they do not have, or if they have it, they do not have the wisdom to use it properly. That is why we need God. That is why we need faith. That is why we will always require faith in God. It is because mankind will always be confronted with the unknown, and in such cases, must rely on God to direct us regarding what we do not know.

To sum up, the whole story is about who will be your God? Will it be you or the real God? In which scenario will you be better off?

Most do not choose the former. Unfortunately, most will choose knowledge over God in order to try and empower themselves, with the presumption that based on that power it will be superior or equal to that power of the Almighty, which is just silly. And it is all based on the premise that God is withholding what is best from us so that will miss out on something that is better than God himself.

The choice was made in Eden. We failed, so we were driven out of Eden
If we are made in the image of God, then our behavior, especially as Christians, should REFLECT God in everything we do on this earth.

 

[onefour1]

Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Galatians 4:6
And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

1 John 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Some have supposed that angels of God or Heavenly beings came down among those on earth and had intercourse which produced giants and that they were not human. No where in the Bible does it specify this interpretation. The sons of God in Genesis 6 refers to those who were born among the righteous followers of God. But they began to intermingle with the non-believers on the earth who were the sons and daughters of men. Because they intermingled with non-believers this caused many to fall away from the true teachings of God and wickedness began to spread over the earth. Giants does not imply aliens came upon the earth and bred with humans. Certain peoples with genes that gave them larger bodies came together and started a race of larger humans. So this is why there were giants upon the earth.

 

[EMH]

Two things.

1. Scientists Discover Massive Hidden Ocean 400 Miles Beneath Earth’s Surface
Scientist are only just beginning to learn about the hidden oceans under the earths crust. In the book of Enoch, for example, it says that God released the water from the deep.

2. The mystery of the firmament, that is, the preflood atmosphere.



It is a theological mystery as to what those waters above were, but are no more. Whatever it was, those waters more than likely came down and helped flood the globe.

In fact, ancient cultures around the globe have myth stories about the firmament, just like they do about giants and a great flood worldwide.

Moses was a Midianite who was offed on top of MT Sinai by joshua and the levites, and his levite fraud replacement needed 40 days to grow a beard, since all ancient Egyptian construction workers were clean shaven because of lice. The Midianite tribe didn't go for it or the 2 stone tablets smashed into the ground, so they got the "Mt Sinai treatment" for noticing truth the Zionist Fascists didn't want you to notice, they were all offed... reason - they were "dancing."

According to Jews, Jesus was a really sick awful person who got exactly what he deserved. He bilked 5k morons out of everything, enslaved them, eventually trying to starve them. Not one person "healed" ever testified. None of the "disciples" who bolted on him when the authorities showed up "testified" either. Jesus refused to heal a leper in the trial, how "Christian" of him.


Question - how deep is Earth's crust......

 

[DennisPTate]

A thread on Antarctica would be great .
The Sheeple can label it anyway they choose , but there is something very odd going on down there .
You still are totally banned from flying over the Pole area and the place is , imho , at minimum the home for another
HAARP type of project .
"Ours" or theirs ? !!!!

I have never forgotten when John Kerry went down there actually missing the Trumpfy first election voting day ( another Prince of Darkness) .
The Pope also visited , as did Pooters ,and Buzz Aldrin was sent back home even more deranged .
Did a few Elohim fly in to give Deep State top Elite their working briefs ?

As for Velikovsky .
He and Tesla make Einstein look the second rate plagiarist he really was .

And yes ,
It would start with pre-war Nazi interest , followed up by Operation High Jump and Operation Paper Clip .

Much more fun than the stupid US party system which is just one party working for ------ certain outsiders who sometimes visit the deep South etc etc ???

Yes, Immanuel Velikovsky and Nikola Tesla were playing in a higher league even than Dr. Albert Einstein!

I believe that that is absolutely true!