An uber dumb idea

[Wolfstrike]

Uber started service with self driving cars (with driver by controls)

DMV told Uber they were in violation of driving laws and told them to cease.

Uber says there cars are not in violation.

A taxi cab driver released a dash cam of a driverless Uber car running a red light, 3 seconds after it turned red

 

[Maryland Patriot]

I can pretty much tell you that I wont be getting into any car that is missing the driver. Im old school, Im all about thinking that an actual driver is a pretty important part of the equation. I know,, call me silly

 

[waltky]

Uber Self-Driving Car Test Moves From California to Arizona...

Uber Moves Self-Driving Cars From California to Arizona
December 22, 2016 — A fleet of self-driving Uber cars left for Arizona on Thursday after they were banned from California roads over safety concerns.

The announcement came after Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey took to social media Wednesday and Thursday touting Arizona as an alternative to California for the ride-hailing company to test out its self-driving cars. Ducey, a Republican, sent tweets advertising Arizona's friendly business environment, saying Uber should ditch California for the Grand Canyon state. Uber said in a statement that it had shipped its cars to Arizona and will be expanding its self-driving pilot program in the next few weeks.

The company hasn't announced a date when the cars will be tested, nor did it provide details about how many cars were included. Uber previously had 16 self-driving cars registered in California. “Arizona welcomes Uber self-driving cars with open arms and wide open roads. While California puts the brakes on innovation and change with more bureaucracy and more regulation, Arizona is paving the way for new technology and new businesses,” Ducey said in a written statement. Ducey spokesman Daniel Scarpinato said the governor has been a strong supporter of driverless car technology and new business models, signing an executive order in August 2015 supporting the testing of such cars in Arizona. Uber faced immediate backlash after it launched its California testing in San Francisco last week.

An Uber driverless car is displayed in a garage in San Francisco, Dec. 13, 2016. Uber announced Dec. 22, 2016, it is moving its self-driving cars to Arizona.​

The California Department of Motor Vehicles had threatened legal action if Uber kept the cars on the road, saying they needed the same special permit as the 20 other companies testing self-driving technology in California. Uber said it doesn't need that permit because the cars are not sophisticated enough to continuously drive themselves. Still, the company promotes the cars as “self-driving.” The ride-hailing company and state regulators negotiated for a week, but Uber pulled its cars off California roads Wednesday after state officials announced they would revoke the vehicle registrations of all 16 self-driving cars. The DMV said the registrations for the vehicles were wrongly issued because they were not properly marked as test vehicles. It invited Uber to seek a permit so their vehicles could operate legally in California — an offer the company said it did not plan to accept.

Uber said on Wednesday it was looking for other places to test out the cars but remained 100 percent committed to California and would redouble its efforts “to develop workable statewide rules.” Ducey called California's rules “over-regulation.” It's unclear which if any regulations exist in Arizona that would apply to the testing of self-driving cars. The executive order Ducey signed last year calls for the state's public safety and transportation departments to take steps toward allowing for the testing of self-driving cars. “This is about economic development, but it's also about changing the way we live and work. Arizona is proud to be open for business. California may not want you, but we do,” he said in a statement.

Uber Moves Self-Driving Cars From California to Arizona

 

[TheOldSchool]

I can pretty much tell you that I wont be getting into any car that is missing the driver. Im old school, Im all about thinking that an actual driver is a pretty important part of the equation. I know,, call me silly

How dare you I'M Oldschool!!!

 

[Pogo]

I can pretty much tell you that I wont be getting into any car that is missing the driver. Im old school, Im all about thinking that an actual driver is a pretty important part of the equation. I know,, call me silly

Hey I get into a car missing a driver every time I go somewhere.

They'll rip the steering wheel out of my cold dead hands.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

I can pretty much tell you that I wont be getting into any car that is missing the driver. Im old school, Im all about thinking that an actual driver is a pretty important part of the equation. I know,, call me silly

How dare you I'M Oldschool!!!

Identity theft.
Wait till you find out what your new mortgage is on that beach house you bought me.
Thank you. (would be rude not to give thanks.)

 

[NightFox]

I can pretty much tell you that I wont be getting into any car that is missing the driver. Im old school, Im all about thinking that an actual driver is a pretty important part of the equation. I know,, call me silly

I dunno about that, have you seen some of the fucking idiot drivers we have on our roads? You know the ones; the morons driving down the street with their faces planted into their smartphones; the women driving while applying make-up; the idiots coasting along at 20 miles below the speed limit in the fast lane; etc...etc...,

Maybe driver less cars aren't such a bad idea.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

I can pretty much tell you that I wont be getting into any car that is missing the driver. Im old school, Im all about thinking that an actual driver is a pretty important part of the equation. I know,, call me silly

I dunno about that, have you seen some of the fucking idiot drivers we have on our roads? You know the ones; the morons driving down the street with their faces planted into their smartphones; the women driving while applying make-up; the idiots coasting along at 20 miles below the speed limit in the fast lane; etc...etc...,

Maybe driver less cars aren't such a bad idea.

You have a valid point. and I am honestly agreeing with you on this one. There are some freaking idiots out there. And to be honest, I would be one lying sack o poo if I said Ive never drifted lanes while preoccupied with something more important than the lives of those people around me, like, the cd player, or the GPS. But, I digress.
Just the other night in Annapolis at rush hour some guy in a pickup drifted into oncoming traffic on one of the two lane roads here (178), the woman coming the other direction saw him and tried to avoid him but he ended up hitting her head on on, on the shoulder of her side of the road. He died, she lived as far as I know. Senseless. had he been in an automated car, I doubt that would have happened.
Even with the proof looking me right in the face, I dont think I would be comfortable with sitting in the back seat of a car that was operating without human intervention, as in, a driver.
Then look at the other benefits to this, how many older people that have lost their license due to health or aging issues that are currently stuck at home with no way to get around, like to shop, or pick up their medications, make Dr appointments etc... would be able to continue living independently long past what they can now.
I would still have to pack extra undershorts before embarking on a journey in one of these cars.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

i dont trust these driverless cars, all it takes is a nearly naked hot white babe walking on the sidewalk, and the passenger could get really hurt when the car gets her attention for 5 seconds!

 

[Iceweasel]

Uber is hemorrhaging money, I guess this is their way of trying to make ends meet. I hope driverless cars are not licensed for a long while. Can a car look up the road head of traffic and anticipate a problem?

 

[NightFox]

Uber is hemorrhaging money, I guess this is their way of trying to make ends meet. I hope driverless cars are not licensed for a long while. Can a car look up the road head of traffic and anticipate a problem?

Yep, actually they can potentially do it better than humans can since they have access to a far greater number of simultaneous data inputs and aren't vulnerable to subjective decisions.

 

[percysunshine]

Uber started service with self driving cars (with driver by controls)

DMV told Uber they were in violation of driving laws and told them to cease.

Uber says there cars are not in violation.

A taxi cab driver released a dash cam of a driverless Uber car running a red light, 3 seconds after it turned red

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Uber has a point. Their claim is that they are not doing anything different than Tesla autopilot, and want the rules to be applied uniformly to all cars. They will probably win a legal battle on that one. What is happening to Uber, and to Airbnb, is a political campaign to get the services banned. It does not take a rocket scientist to know why. They are taking market share from established monopolies.

 

[Iceweasel]

Uber is hemorrhaging money, I guess this is their way of trying to make ends meet. I hope driverless cars are not licensed for a long while. Can a car look up the road head of traffic and anticipate a problem?

Yep, actually they can potentially do it better than humans can since they have access to a far greater number of simultaneous data inputs and aren't vulnerable to subjective decisions.

Bullshit. Kids on bicycles or dogs aren't "data points". They are unpredictable entities that can't be computed.

 

[NightFox]

Uber is hemorrhaging money, I guess this is their way of trying to make ends meet. I hope driverless cars are not licensed for a long while. Can a car look up the road head of traffic and anticipate a problem?

Yep, actually they can potentially do it better than humans can since they have access to a far greater number of simultaneous data inputs and aren't vulnerable to subjective decisions.

Bullshit. Kids on bicycles or dogs aren't "data points". They are unpredictable entities that can't be computed.

Umm... you're thinking too small.

With the proper infrastructure, the car could "talk" to the road (think "smart road"), other cars, traffic cameras, satellites, and a plethora of other environmental sensors and "see" "kids on bicycles", dogs, etc.., far sooner than a human can not to mention predict where those potential problems are actually going to be at X moment in time far sooner and far more accurately than a human can all that while knowing exactly what the physical road and other environmental conditions are and how said conditions will affect the performance (e.g. braking) of the vehicle.

We're in the infancy stages right now but it's a pretty safe bet that the technology will evolve quickly since there are huge incentives (both economic and social) for it and in the long run it will lead to far safer, more efficient roads and less traffic related deaths.

 

[Moonglow]

Uber is hemorrhaging money, I guess this is their way of trying to make ends meet. I hope driverless cars are not licensed for a long while. Can a car look up the road head of traffic and anticipate a problem?

Yep, actually they can potentially do it better than humans can since they have access to a far greater number of simultaneous data inputs and aren't vulnerable to subjective decisions.

Or playing with passenger's boobs..

 

[Iceweasel]

Uber is hemorrhaging money, I guess this is their way of trying to make ends meet. I hope driverless cars are not licensed for a long while. Can a car look up the road head of traffic and anticipate a problem?

Yep, actually they can potentially do it better than humans can since they have access to a far greater number of simultaneous data inputs and aren't vulnerable to subjective decisions.

Bullshit. Kids on bicycles or dogs aren't "data points". They are unpredictable entities that can't be computed.

Umm... you're thinking too small.

With the proper infrastructure, the car could "talk" to the road (think "smart road"), other cars, traffic cameras, satellites, and a plethora of other environmental sensors and "see" "kids on bicycles", dogs, etc.., far sooner than a human can not to mention predict where those potential problems are actually going to be at X moment in time far sooner and far more accurately than a human can all that while knowing exactly what the physical road and other environmental conditions are and how said conditions will affect the performance (e.g. braking) of the vehicle.

We're in the infancy stages right now but it's a pretty safe bet that the technology will evolve quickly since there are huge incentives (both economic and social) for it and in the long run it will lead to far safer, more efficient roads and less traffic related deaths.

You're think too abstract. Sorta blew your own theory out of the water with "with the proper infrastructure" and "we're in the infancy stages". We ain't got it yet and outfitting every road in America and AI on a human level or above is a ways off.

I don't know how driverless cars are legal now, I guess people need to die first. But when you operate a business your safety standards go way up.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Uber is hemorrhaging money, I guess this is their way of trying to make ends meet. I hope driverless cars are not licensed for a long while. Can a car look up the road head of traffic and anticipate a problem?

Yep, actually they can potentially do it better than humans can since they have access to a far greater number of simultaneous data inputs and aren't vulnerable to subjective decisions.

Bullshit. Kids on bicycles or dogs aren't "data points". They are unpredictable entities that can't be computed.

Umm... you're thinking too small.

With the proper infrastructure, the car could "talk" to the road (think "smart road"), other cars, traffic cameras, satellites, and a plethora of other environmental sensors and "see" "kids on bicycles", dogs, etc.., far sooner than a human can not to mention predict where those potential problems are actually going to be at X moment in time far sooner and far more accurately than a human can all that while knowing exactly what the physical road and other environmental conditions are and how said conditions will affect the performance (e.g. braking) of the vehicle.

We're in the infancy stages right now but it's a pretty safe bet that the technology will evolve quickly since there are huge incentives (both economic and social) for it and in the long run it will lead to far safer, more efficient roads and less traffic related deaths.

rarely have I seen a drunk car.
That alone is worth a major consideration when discussing the pro's and con's of this technology. Not being old enough to remember (and I dont get to say that very often anymore) I wonder what type of fears there were with something as simple as cruise control. That would have been another benchmark in automotive technology that took away driver control to some small degree.
Im not comfortable with it personally, but one has to consider that its not possible that these things will always be tailored around my personal feelings on the matter. Got to go with the flow or end up left behind.

 

[NightFox]

Uber is hemorrhaging money, I guess this is their way of trying to make ends meet. I hope driverless cars are not licensed for a long while. Can a car look up the road head of traffic and anticipate a problem?

Yep, actually they can potentially do it better than humans can since they have access to a far greater number of simultaneous data inputs and aren't vulnerable to subjective decisions.

Bullshit. Kids on bicycles or dogs aren't "data points". They are unpredictable entities that can't be computed.

Umm... you're thinking too small.

With the proper infrastructure, the car could "talk" to the road (think "smart road"), other cars, traffic cameras, satellites, and a plethora of other environmental sensors and "see" "kids on bicycles", dogs, etc.., far sooner than a human can not to mention predict where those potential problems are actually going to be at X moment in time far sooner and far more accurately than a human can all that while knowing exactly what the physical road and other environmental conditions are and how said conditions will affect the performance (e.g. braking) of the vehicle.

We're in the infancy stages right now but it's a pretty safe bet that the technology will evolve quickly since there are huge incentives (both economic and social) for it and in the long run it will lead to far safer, more efficient roads and less traffic related deaths.

You're think too abstract. Sorta blew your own theory out of the water with "with the proper infrastructure" and "we're in the infancy stages". We ain't got it yet and outfitting every road in America and AI on a human level or above is a ways off.

We ain't got it yet but 15 years ago we didn't have the infrastructure to support the current crop of mobile technologies that are ubiquitous today but yet here we are, the incentives are all there for us to develop and implement the necessary infrastructure for wide scale adoption of driver less cars in relatively short order.

.. .and if you've forgotten the original question posed by you WAS "Can a car look up the road head of traffic and anticipate a problem?", to which I responded "yep" and proceeded to explain exactly how that is possible and how it will be greatly expanded in the future.

As far as the driver less cars available on the road today, while the technology is still limited by lack of infrastructure and nascent vehicle technology they are still quite capable with respect to safety, especially when one considers just how dangerous many drivers currently on the road are, they're just not anywhere near where they are going to be.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Uber is hemorrhaging money, I guess this is their way of trying to make ends meet. I hope driverless cars are not licensed for a long while. Can a car look up the road head of traffic and anticipate a problem?

Yep, actually they can potentially do it better than humans can since they have access to a far greater number of simultaneous data inputs and aren't vulnerable to subjective decisions.

Or playing with passenger's boobs..

and then on the other hand, just think, heading out to the beach for the weekend, you pick up a hot babe thats wearing only a string bikini, your wife is already at the hotel waiting for you to arrive. You set the car to head on down the road for you and while the car is rolling down the highway at 65mph, you are in the back seat knocking off a piece.

 

[Iceweasel]

Uber is hemorrhaging money, I guess this is their way of trying to make ends meet. I hope driverless cars are not licensed for a long while. Can a car look up the road head of traffic and anticipate a problem?

Yep, actually they can potentially do it better than humans can since they have access to a far greater number of simultaneous data inputs and aren't vulnerable to subjective decisions.

Or playing with passenger's boobs..

and then on the other hand, just think, heading out to the beach for the weekend, you pick up a hot babe thats wearing only a string bikini, your wife is already at the hotel waiting for you to arrive. You set the car to head on down the road for you and while the car is rolling down the highway at 65mph, you are in the back seat knocking off a piece.

I think some people are at least watching porn movies. I'm all for automated driving but not before we can do it safely.