An energy source using the multiplier effect

are the psychical principals of the machine correct?


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Tying energy sources together multiplies the energy output.

Below is a short description of how this machine works. It is based on the diagram of a machine titled “SeaEngine”, see attached

(1) cubic foot of displaced seawater has a lifting force of 64 pounds (USA) when held underwater.

The two-dimensional JPG drawing titled “SeaEngine” is a cross-sectional view of the ocean from a depth of 0 (1ATM) to a depth of 495 feet= 150.88 meters or (15ATM) +/- in water depth.

The diagram shows fifteen (15) balloons on the right moving up and 15 on the other side moving down. An easier way of envisioning this is to substitute the balloons with inverted umbrellas.

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When an umbrella rounds the bottom and starts to rise compressed air is pumped into the lower umbrella. The air in the umbrella will try to rise with a lifting force of 64-foot pounds per square foot.

The pull of gravity is naturalized because the same number of umbrellas going up are going down.

The drag or resistance on the system is the combined weight of the cables and umbrellas.

In this example each umbrella weighs 200 pounds. There are fifteen (15) umbrellas. The combined weight of the umbrellas is therefore (200X15) = 3,000 us pounds.

To overcome this resistance to rising 3,000/64 = 46.875 cubic feet of air needs to be injected in the lower umbrella. This will neutralize the resistance of weight.

The lifting force of any additional air injected into the system will add to its torque force.


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Compressing air takes way more power than you could possibly get out of it.
 
Compressing air takes way more power than you could possibly get out of it.
Principles to run the machine

[1] an enclosed container (Y) of air submerged in water has a lifting force (X) equal to the volume of the water displaced minus the weight of the container;

[2] connection multiple containers one on top of the other creates a combined lifting force of (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y) = (X)

(X) is greater than (Y).
To maintain the system the energy you need to sustain the machine is (Y) while in return you are getting (X)
Which is a greater lifting force than (Y)

Or so it seems to me
Comments please
 
Principles to run the machine

These are a few basic principles

[1] an enclosed container (X) of air submerged in water has a lifting force (Y) equal to the volume of the water displaced minus the weight of the container;

[2] connecting multiple containers one on top of the other creates a combined lifting force of (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)
Which is a greater lifting force than (Y);

[3] the energy needed to fill one container is equal to the energy needed to sustain the combined lifting force of the 10 (ten) containers referenced above;

Formula used (ATM/V1) X V1 = bubble size

Output of this machine is 118,428 pounds of lifting force moving at 3 feet per second at any one moment in time
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Principles to run the machine

[1] an enclosed container (Y) of air submerged in water has a lifting force (X) equal to the volume of the water displaced minus the weight of the container;

[2] connection multiple containers one on top of the other creates a combined lifting force of (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y) = (X)

(X) is greater than (Y).
To maintain the system the energy you need to sustain the machine is (Y) while in return you are getting (X)
Which is a greater lifting force than (Y)

Or so it seems to me
Comments please
Not sure you realize how much energy it takes to compress air and how much is lost to heat and friction. Perpetual motion machines cannot power themselves much less yield surplus energy. Before this became a scientific certainty scientists came up with all sorts of contraptions along the lines of an unbalanced wheel where one side was always heaver than the other. Some of them would spin for a surprisingly long time but they always run down. No such thing as energy out of nowhere.
 
Show me a working prototype.
I’m not sure what a picture of a working prototype would show that would be useful? In use the machine would be submerged in water extending down for hundreds of feet.

The drawing provided gives all the detail needed to make comments on its feasibility.

Fncceo, I do appreciate your interest.

Thanks for at least posting something

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Not sure you realize how much energy it takes to compress air and how much is lost to heat and friction.
These are a few basic principles

[1] an enclosed container (X) of air submerged in water has a lifting force (Y) equal to the volume of the water displaced minus the weight of the container;

[2] connecting multiple containers one on top of the other creates a combined lifting force of (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)=(X)
Which is a greater lifting force than (Y);
It is the multiplying effect that matters.
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The machine does not create surplus energy. What it does do is create a higher torque force.
Finally you say something on the right track. The machine does not create energy. As far as creating a higher torque , there are many more efficient ways of doing that such as gear ratios.

 

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