An alternative solution to Venezuela's drug boat problem

[JGalt]

First of all, I believe the Trump administration's heavy-handed attacks on Venezuelan drug boats was a justifiable military operation. It's pretty obvious that we had intelligence as to what was being transported on those boats. However from this point on, we should address this in a different manner. The US Southern Command should now back off of their attacks, allowing the cartel smugglers to become confident that they can continue their operations without being attacked.

The next step would be to employ helicopter gunships to intercept and capture some of those boats and the personnel on them. They are most likely armed with only a few AK-47s, but given the choice of surrendering or dying, they probably wouldn't put up much of a fight. And the drugs confiscated from those boats would show the world why we are involved in this operation.

What say ye?

 

[Anarchy666]

First of all, I believe the Trump administration's heavy-handed attacks on Venezuelan drug boats was a justifiable military operation. It's pretty obvious that we had intelligence as to what was being transported on those boats. However from this point on, we should address this in a different manner. The US Southern Command should now back off of their attacks, allowing the cartel smugglers to become confident that they can continue their operations without being attacked.

The next step would be to employ helicopter gunships to intercept and capture some of those boats and the personnel on them. They are most likely armed with only a few AK-47s, but given the choice of surrendering or dying, they probably wouldn't put up much of a fight. And the drugs confiscated from those boats would show the world why we are involved in this operation.

What say ye?

It would be nice but I don't think Trump is smart enough for that unfortunately

 

[JGalt]

It would be nice but I don't think Trump is smart enough for that unfortunately

He doesn't have to be smart enough, the US military is plenty smart.

Of course, there's always the chance that narcoterrorists could take out a helicopter gunship with an AK-47, and the loss of American lives would be a tragedy.

 

[rightwinger]

In response to the attacks, Venezuelan drug runners have shifted to new boats

 

[MisterBeale]

The next step would be to employ helicopter gunships to intercept and capture some of those boats and the personnel on them.

That will never happen. The deep state and military industrial complex doesn't want any sort of evidence. Hard evidence would destroy their narrative and the supposed casus belli for the up-coming unconstitutionally started war.

Just as the government never gave us any evidence that Saddam Hussein had any links to terrorist groups, this whole operation is predicated on the narrative that Maduro and his pals are in leagues with drug runners. . . w/o actually giving the public any proof.


Gee. . . . we have been here before, haven't we?

 

[sparky]

Perhaps addressing Maduro's payin' off Congress first might have some results ~S~

 

[gipper]

That will never happen. The deep state and military industrial complex doesn't want any sort of evidence. Hard evidence would destroy their narrative and the supposed casus belli for the up-coming unconstitutionally started war.

Just as the government never gave us any evidence that Saddam Hussein had any links to terrorist groups, this whole operation is predicated on the narrative that Maduro and his pals are in leagues with drug runners. . . w/o actually giving the public any proof.


Gee. . . . we have been here before, haven't we?

Yes we have been here before but somehow many Americans still can’t see the pattern, even though it’s evident.

As Nazi Goring said long ago…Hermann Göring stated during his interview with American psychologist Gustave M. Gilbert in his jail cell on April 18, 1946, that "the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country".

 

[Manonthestreet]

I give you ISIS

 

[MisterBeale]

Murder for Christmas?

By ordering the annihilation of people in speedboats in the Caribbean, Trump and Hegseth have assumed powers that numerous laws forbid, writes Andrew P. Napolitano. By Andrew P. Napolitano When Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth posted a meme of Franklin the Turtle, the amiable child’s cartoo

consortiumnews.com

By ordering the annihilation of people in speedboats in the Caribbean, Trump and Hegseth have assumed powers that numerous laws forbid, writes Andrew P. Napolitano.
December 4, 2025

". . . .Based on evidence he says he has and chooses not to share, Trump has designated these folks in the speedboats as “narco-terrorists” and argued that his designation offers him legal authority to kill them.

But “narco-terrorist” is a political phrase, not a legal one. There is no such designation or defined term in American law. Labeling them confers no additional legal authority.

Lawyers in the Office of Legal Counsel of the Department of Justice who advise the attorney general on the meaning of the law have apparently authored a legal opinion informing her that she can tell the president what he wants to hear; that it is lawful to kill these boat people.

This is the same office that told President George W. Bush that he could legally torture prisoners and President Barack Obama that he could legally kill unindicted Americans — including a child — overseas.

Neither the president nor the attorney general will produce this legal opinion for public scrutiny.

These killings constitute murder under federal law and under international law, and persons who use the force of government to commit murder may themselves be prosecuted for it in U.S. courts, courts of the countries from which their victims came, and in international courts.

These killings constitute murder because none of the 81 dead boat people was engaged in any violence at the times of their deaths. . . . "

https://www.axios.com/2025/12/03/pete-hegseth-impeachment-democrat-shri-thanedar

 

[Votto]

First of all, I believe the Trump administration's heavy-handed attacks on Venezuelan drug boats was a justifiable military operation. It's pretty obvious that we had intelligence as to what was being transported on those boats. However from this point on, we should address this in a different manner. The US Southern Command should now back off of their attacks, allowing the cartel smugglers to become confident that they can continue their operations without being attacked.

The next step would be to employ helicopter gunships to intercept and capture some of those boats and the personnel on them. They are most likely armed with only a few AK-47s, but given the choice of surrendering or dying, they probably wouldn't put up much of a fight. And the drugs confiscated from those boats would show the world why we are involved in this operation.

What say ye?

No, they need to send silent drones to these warlords, and attack at random inopportune times anywhere in the world, and not report any of it.

Obama did this, and even killed a US citizen who he deemed a terrorist, and the media said nothing.

 

[Manonthestreet]

No, they need to send silent drones to these warlords, and attack at random inopportune times anywhere in the world, and not report any of it.

Obama did this, and even killed a US citizen who he deemed a terrorist, and the media said nothing.

who droned the Bridal party

 

[MisterBeale]

Yes we have been here before but somehow many Americans still can’t see the pattern, even though it’s evident.

As Nazi Goring said long ago…Hermann Göring stated during his interview with American psychologist Gustave M. Gilbert in his jail cell on April 18, 1946, that "the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country".

Overthrow: Trump Authorizes CIA Covert Ops Targeting Venezuela's Maduro | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[sparky]

This is the same office that told President George W. Bush that he could legally torture prisoners and President Barack Obama that he could legally kill unindicted Americans — including a child — overseas.

meanwhile some former DOJ's are getting indictments in their Xmas stockings Mr B......~S~

 

[MisterBeale]

meanwhile some former DOJ's are getting indictments in their Xmas stockings Mr B......~S~

Comey Faces Indictment, but His Real Crimes Remain Untouched › American Greatness

We have no idea whether the current DOJ indictments will lead to a conviction of James Comey, namely that he authorized FBI subordinates to leak to the media and then lied about it…

amgreatness.com

". . . We also know of the crimes or unethical conduct for which James Comey is not currently being indicted or investigated.

He is not being charged with pleading amnesia or ignorance in 2018—e.g., “I didn’t know,” “I couldn’t recall,” “I didn’t remember”—a reported 245 times while under oath to House investigators and misleading them.

He is not being charged with leaking in 2017 a confidential FBI memo of a conversation with then President Trump—which he improperly stored in his personal safe, in violation of FBI protocols—to the New York Times via a third-party Columbia professor.

He is not being charged for falsely assuring the President of the United States in 2017 that he was not the object of the current Crossfire Hurricane “Russian collusion” investigation—when, in fact, Trump, as the Mueller investigation revealed, was the real target of almost that entire ruse.

He is not being charged for deliberately leaking an FBI memo of a conversation with President Trump for the purpose of injuring him by prompting the appointment of his friend and predecessor, Robert Mueller, as a special counsel to investigate the supposed crimes of Donald Trump. Comey’s gambit resulted in a 22-month and $30 million administration hiatus, only to find no actionable wrongdoing by Trump. . . "

 

[gipper]

Murder for Christmas?

By ordering the annihilation of people in speedboats in the Caribbean, Trump and Hegseth have assumed powers that numerous laws forbid, writes Andrew P. Napolitano. By Andrew P. Napolitano When Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth posted a meme of Franklin the Turtle, the amiable child’s cartoo

consortiumnews.com

By ordering the annihilation of people in speedboats in the Caribbean, Trump and Hegseth have assumed powers that numerous laws forbid, writes Andrew P. Napolitano.
December 4, 2025

". . . .Based on evidence he says he has and chooses not to share, Trump has designated these folks in the speedboats as “narco-terrorists” and argued that his designation offers him legal authority to kill them.

But “narco-terrorist” is a political phrase, not a legal one. There is no such designation or defined term in American law. Labeling them confers no additional legal authority.

Lawyers in the Office of Legal Counsel of the Department of Justice who advise the attorney general on the meaning of the law have apparently authored a legal opinion informing her that she can tell the president what he wants to hear; that it is lawful to kill these boat people.

This is the same office that told President George W. Bush that he could legally torture prisoners and President Barack Obama that he could legally kill unindicted Americans — including a child — overseas.

Neither the president nor the attorney general will produce this legal opinion for public scrutiny.

These killings constitute murder under federal law and under international law, and persons who use the force of government to commit murder may themselves be prosecuted for it in U.S. courts, courts of the countries from which their victims came, and in international courts.

These killings constitute murder because none of the 81 dead boat people was engaged in any violence at the times of their deaths. . . . "
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https://www.axios.com/2025/12/03/pete-hegseth-impeachment-democrat-shri-thanedar

Don should be impeached and removed for these unconstitutional war crimes (as should have most of his recent warmongering predecessors). Of course, the Constitution is meaningless now and the establishment demands non-stop war…and dumb duped feeble-minded Americans support this.

 

[Hafar1014]

Don should be impeached and removed for these unconstitutional war crimes (as should have most of his recent warmongering predecessors). Of course, the Constitution is meaningless now and the establishment demands non-stop war…and dumb duped feeble-minded Americans support this.

Lets give him a medal for fighting the war on drugs while democrats opened the border and let them flood in. Why do democrats love criminals and drug dealers. What a great image

 

[MisterBeale]

Don should be impeached and removed for these unconstitutional war crimes

I'm not sure that would serve much of a purpose. That'd be like removing Biden and leaving us with Harris.

I just don't think that Peter Thiel's whipping boy would be much better as a chief executive than Trump is, TBH.



Regardless, I do agree, unless politicians on both sides start receiving some sort of consequence for their illegal acts, aside from just losing the occasional election, pols on both sides will continue to act in their own interests, and the interests of those who pay them.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

First of all, I believe the Trump administration's heavy-handed attacks on Venezuelan drug boats was a justifiable military operation. It's pretty obvious that we had intelligence as to what was being transported on those boats. However from this point on, we should address this in a different manner. The US Southern Command should now back off of their attacks, allowing the cartel smugglers to become confident that they can continue their operations without being attacked.

The next step would be to employ helicopter gunships to intercept and capture some of those boats and the personnel on them. They are most likely armed with only a few AK-47s, but given the choice of surrendering or dying, they probably wouldn't put up much of a fight. And the drugs confiscated from those boats would show the world why we are involved in this operation.

What say ye?

I say we should not let either Thelma OR Louise drive the car any more

We are $38T in debt

We have an annual deficit of $1.8T

The criminals in the prior Administration, during a back drop of record low interest rates, borrowed on the short term!

I think it's 2/3 of our debt now matures in 5 years or less

Instead of ruthlessly cutting programs and spending as the true national emergency that it is, we're blowing up Miami Vice Speed Boats

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I'm not sure that would serve much of a purpose. That'd be like removing Biden and leaving us with Harris.

I just don't think that Peter Thiel's whipping boy would be much better as a chief executive than Trump is, TBH.



Regardless, I do agree, unless politicians on both sides start receiving some sort of consequence for their illegal acts, aside from just losing the occasional election, pols on both sides will continue to act in their own interests, and the interests of those who pay them.

JD, the Republican Obama

 

[martybegan]

First of all, I believe the Trump administration's heavy-handed attacks on Venezuelan drug boats was a justifiable military operation. It's pretty obvious that we had intelligence as to what was being transported on those boats. However from this point on, we should address this in a different manner. The US Southern Command should now back off of their attacks, allowing the cartel smugglers to become confident that they can continue their operations without being attacked.

The next step would be to employ helicopter gunships to intercept and capture some of those boats and the personnel on them. They are most likely armed with only a few AK-47s, but given the choice of surrendering or dying, they probably wouldn't put up much of a fight. And the drugs confiscated from those boats would show the world why we are involved in this operation.

What say ye?

That would just let the Dems say "you could have stopped these boats all along"

The way it's going now is minimal risk to US forces, maximum return to US security.

We've seen videos of boats dumping millions of dollars in drug product the second they think a drone or a chopper has them locked in.

It's working.