EL v Special Ed

[Unkotare]

It irks me that ESL students (or ELs as it is sometimes put) are often classified/considered/treated almost exactly like special ed students. Speaking another language is not a disability, it is a valuable ability. When these students master English to a significant degree, they will have a leg up on their monolingual cohorts. And let it be said that special ed students are not ELs. They can have a wide range of challenges, and deserve specific, targeted support appropriate to their circumstances.

Just sayin'

 

[Godboy]

I hope Special Ed beats those ELS'ers. When does this fight start?

 

[Unkotare]

And of course sometimes ELs do have special needs. Too often these students miss out on services they need. Often the focus is on the EL part and they are put into classrooms with non-special ed ELs. They may not be prepared for that, and their ESL teachers may not be trained to teach special ed. A rock and a hard place.

 

[Unkotare]

And now with MCAS approaching, I'm faced with interpreting test directions for Special Ed ELs yet again then just walking around a room for 3+ hours. Time stands still.

 

[leftwinger]

Why waste tax dollars on a bunch of illegals with one foot in the deportation bucket anyways?

 

[braalian]

Why waste tax dollars on a bunch of illegals with one foot in the deportation bucket anyways?

So the children of legal immigrants are miraculously born speaking perfect English?

 

[Unkotare]

So the children of legal immigrants are miraculously born speaking perfect English?

And again, I have no way of knowing a student's immigration status unless they volunteer the information for some reason.

 

[leftwinger]

So the children of legal immigrants are miraculously born speaking perfect English?

Yes. They hear it all day, even TV or music. By age 2 ir so they start to babble.

Anyone old enough to be in free Adult night school or special HS BS is not a Citizen. If they've been here 6l7 yrs or more they should know English from watching TV all day long closed captions not working waiting on free GOVT crap minus the NGO or politician take up front. Get off me!

 

[Unkotare]

Yes. They hear it all day, even TV or music. ...

How the hell do you know? Not everyone lives your life, dumbass.

 

[Unkotare]

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Anyone old enough to be in free Adult night school or special HS BS is not a Citizen. ...

Illogical.

 

[Unkotare]

... If they've been here 6l7 yrs or more ...

They'd be pretty damn old!

 

[Unkotare]

...They hear it all day, even TV or music. ...

There is TV and music in all kinds of languages. Plenty of people interact with family, go to work, get entertainment all in languages other than English.

 

[leftwinger]

There is TV and music in all kinds of languages. Plenty of people interact with family, go to work, get entertainment all in languages other than English.

SHUP BS. Nothing like TV with CC you dumb OX

 

[Unkotare]

SHUP BS. Nothing like TV with CC you dumb OX

I told you, not everyone lives your life, dumbass.

 

[leftwinger]

I told you, not everyone lives your life, dumbass.

They should.

 

[Unkotare]

They should.

What a useful comment.

 

[rosends]

I may have to start teach EFL soon -- are there any straightforward resources online to help ground me and give me some guidance?

 

[Unkotare]

I may have to start teach EFL soon -- ...

What country are you moving to?

 

[rosends]

What country are you moving to?

Israel

 

[Unkotare]

Israel

There are programs over there where you could at least get certified if you can get there before securing a position.