An alternative solution to Venezuela's drug boat problem

[JGalt]

The US military has had no credibility for decades, you are typical of stupid Americans who believe everything they are told because the authorities told you, are you bloody stupid? you have not learned a damn thing since the Bay of Tonkin Bullshit and Iraqi WMD.

Better hope that big floating socialist turd you live on off the coast of France doesn't decide to sink.

But if it does, we Americans will throw you a life vest, like we've done so many times before

 

[SaxonJackson]

The next step would be to employ helicopter gunships to intercept and capture some of those boats and the personnel on them. They are most likely armed with only a few AK-47s, but given the choice of surrendering or dying, they probably wouldn't put up much of a fight. And the drugs confiscated from those boats would show the world why we are involved in this operation.

^^^ That's how they've done it in the past and that's how it should have been done this time around. All Trump accomplished was to further taint his "President of Peace" and his "I just want people to stop dying" pretense. The mask is now off for all to see.

 

[excalibur]

First of all, I believe the Trump administration's heavy-handed attacks on Venezuelan drug boats was a justifiable military operation. It's pretty obvious that we had intelligence as to what was being transported on those boats. However from this point on, we should address this in a different manner. The US Southern Command should now back off of their attacks, allowing the cartel smugglers to become confident that they can continue their operations without being attacked.

The next step would be to employ helicopter gunships to intercept and capture some of those boats and the personnel on them. They are most likely armed with only a few AK-47s, but given the choice of surrendering or dying, they probably wouldn't put up much of a fight. And the drugs confiscated from those boats would show the world why we are involved in this operation.

What say ye?

What to do with the guys who surrender? We really don't want them in front of a Clinton, or a Øbama, or a Biden judge.

 

[gipper]

Killing narco-terrorists isn't "murder". If you're so well-informed that you have intel that exonerates those people in the boats, feel free to present it. Although I seriously doubt you could do that. After all, you're just some schmuck with an internet account, as opposed to the US military, which gets intelligence from more sources that you even know.

Go ahead and try to prove you're more well-informed than the US military. I need a good laugh today.

LMFAO!!!

 

[Zavulon]

We don't need Venezuela's crappy oil.

Of course you need it. May be you need it for yourself, and that's why you steal tankers with Venezuela's oil. May be, you just need a leverage against world's oil markets and oil consumers like Europe, China and India.

You're thinking of the last President, Biden, who begged them to increase their production.

There is no difference between Trump and Biden. Both of them are untrustworthy clowns. That's why, I believe, American illegal attacks against oil trafficking and freedom of navigation just destroy any credibility for any American treaty.

 

[JGalt]

Of course you need it. May be you need it for yourself, and that's why you steal tankers with Venezuela's oil. May be, you just need a leverage against world's oil markets and oil consumers like Europe, China and India.


There is no difference between Trump and Biden. Both of them are untrustworthy clowns. That's why, I believe, American illegal attacks against oil trafficking and freedom of navigation just destroy any credibility for any American treaty.

A certain Nobel Prize-winning Venezuelan disagrees with you. But I can understand your concern.

Once Maduro is overthrown, there won't be a single Russian or Cuban in the entire country.

Nobel Prize winning Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Machado supports President Trump's military operations against Maduro

 

[Zavulon]

A certain Nobel Prize-winning Venezuelan disagrees with you. But I can understand your concern.

Once Maduro is overthrown, there won't be a single Russian or Cuban in the entire country.

Nobel Prize winning Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Machado supports President Trump's military operations against Maduro

This is exactly why Maduro won't be overthrown.

 

[toobfreak]

First of all, I believe the Trump administration's heavy-handed attacks on Venezuelan drug boats was a justifiable military operation. It's pretty obvious that we had intelligence as to what was being transported on those boats.

I agree. I'm sure that behind these attacks was years and years of detailed, high level covert espionage, which is why I'm a little confused now that Trump is being so public with dropping these drug boats. Why let this out at all, just sink them and no one need be the wiser except Maduro when his goodies don't make it to the other shore.

However from this point on, we should address this in a different manner. The US Southern Command should now back off of their attacks, allowing the cartel smugglers to become confident that they can continue their operations without being attacked.

The next step would be to employ helicopter gunships to intercept and capture some of those boats and the personnel on them. They are most likely armed with only a few AK-47s, but given the choice of surrendering or dying, they probably wouldn't put up much of a fight. And the drugs confiscated from those boats would show the world why we are involved in this operation. What say ye?

Well, maybe. First thing the chickenshit media will do is brag that Trump has backed off because he knows he was in the wrong and they caught him red handed. Then if someone gets hurt or killed in one of these raids, they will drag Trump through the ringer saying he does not care about lives.

What I wonder is with all these sinkings, is why Maduro doesn't already think his operation is doomed? Unless he figures as usual to just listen to the democrats calling him telling him to just hang in there a few years until Trump is gone and they'll have the drugs back up and flowing again?

 

[Deadstick]

I agree. I'm sure that behind these attacks was years and years of detailed, high level covert espionage, which is why I'm a little confused now that Trump is being so public with dropping these drug boats. Why let this out at all, just sink them and no one need be the wiser except Maduro when his goodies don't make it to the other shore.


Well, maybe. First thing the chickenshit media will do is brag that Trump has backed off because he knows he was in the wrong and they caught him red handed. Then if someone gets hurt or killed in one of these raids, they will drag Trump through the ringer saying he does not care about lives.

What I wonder is with all these sinkings, is why Maduro doesn't already think his operation is doomed? Unless he figures as usual to just listen to the democrats calling him telling him to just hang in there a few years until Trump is gone and they'll have the drugs back up and flowing again?

Why don't you just be honest and admit you don't really believe all this drug boat Bullshit, it seems to be a case of team America right or wrong America is your team and that's it come hell or high water, or maybe just team Trump.

 

[toobfreak]

Why don't you just be honest and admit you don't really believe all this drug boat Bullshit,

Sure, I'll stop believing those boats are running drugs just as soon as you tell me what they were really doing out there 1500 miles from shore going 50 knots and give us some names of the missing parties.

 

[Deadstick]

Sure, I'll stop believing those boats are running drugs just as soon as you tell me what they were really doing out there 1500 miles from shore going 50 knots and give us some names of the missing parties.

You can tell me once one of them has been detained and boarded and searched.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

First of all, I believe the Trump administration's heavy-handed attacks on Venezuelan drug boats was a justifiable military operation. It's pretty obvious that we had intelligence as to what was being transported on those boats. However from this point on, we should address this in a different manner. The US Southern Command should now back off of their attacks, allowing the cartel smugglers to become confident that they can continue their operations without being attacked.

The next step would be to employ helicopter gunships to intercept and capture some of those boats and the personnel on them. They are most likely armed with only a few AK-47s, but given the choice of surrendering or dying, they probably wouldn't put up much of a fight. And the drugs confiscated from those boats would show the world why we are involved in this operation.

What say ye?

Why? What is the advantage?

What if the boats refuse to stop and be boarded? Ever boarded a boat from a helicopter before? Would they not just wait and pick off those boarding with an AK? You really did not think this through, did you?

 

[toobfreak]

You can tell me once one of them has been detained and boarded and searched.

Why? Who wants to detain or search them? We already know what they have.

Let the fishees have it.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I wasn't suggesting they arrest them. The purpose of capturing them is to confiscate the drugs and put them on display.

Let's put this whole notion to rest that they're just poor, innocent fishing boats. What better proof would there possibly be that Venezuela is involved in drug smuggling?

Why? Only idiots believe that anyway!

 

[dudmuck]

I wasn't suggesting they arrest them. The purpose of capturing them is to confiscate the drugs and put them on display.

Let's put this whole notion to rest that they're just poor, innocent fishing boats. What better proof would there possibly be that Venezuela is involved in drug smuggling?

 

[PeterPilot]

You bring those people to a court and the court will release them. For US Navy has no legal right to arrest drug-traffikers in Venezuela's boats in high seas.

Technically speaking, the US Navy, Army, Marine Corps or Air Force has no legal right to enforce civilian laws. They are not law enforcement personnel, they are defense forces. That was made clear with the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. When Bush Sr. as VP got the Reagan DoD involved in Bush's Drug War, SecDef Weinberger correctly pointed that out. Things have gone steadily downhill ever since.

Under Trumpanyahu they have become war critters, pirates on the high seas, as we are now a full fledged pariah state in the eyes of the world. A pariah state like Israel, headed up by a clown on the world stage.